| 00:27.11 | Mirell | prpplague: Are we going to keep playing an ultra-slow game of Ping Pong for the next two weeks? :D |
| 00:30.27 | ds2 | Mmmm slow placed ping pong |
| 00:37.22 | Mirell | Awww yeah |
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| 07:12.03 | methril|work | yo |
| 07:15.08 | Mirell_ | YoYo |
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| 18:57.29 | kergoth | hmm, no prpplague |
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| 19:54.28 | prpplague | ho ho ho, merry freakin tuesday |
| 19:55.09 | kergoth | hey prpplague |
| 19:55.11 | kergoth | how's life? |
| 19:55.18 | prpplague | kergoth not too bad |
| 19:56.26 | prpplague | has officially given birth to "RAD Tech Labs - Research.. Analysis.. Development.. for open source solutions" |
| 19:56.53 | prpplague | kergoth got 3 long term contracts |
| 19:56.56 | kergoth | ah, that your company you're going to use for contract work? |
| 19:56.57 | kergoth | nice |
| 19:56.58 | kergoth | grats |
| 19:57.12 | prpplague | kergoth we'll see how it goes in another 3-6 months |
| 19:57.17 | kergoth | oh, i wanted you to check something out if you have a moment |
| 19:57.26 | kergoth | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/112715/Files/inscm-1.tar.bz2 |
| 19:57.52 | prpplague | looks |
| 19:58.23 | prpplague | kergoth whatcha got? |
| 19:58.24 | kergoth | in particular, look at shasum/ and quilt/ |
| 19:58.33 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:58.37 | kergoth | the recipes for bitbake are in the source trees |
| 19:58.38 | prpplague | will do |
| 19:58.53 | kergoth | it extracts the version info from the git repositories |
| 19:59.12 | kergoth | would make it much eaiser to do active development, since the source trees are right there |
| 19:59.16 | prpplague | kergoth i'm on my wife's winblows netbook ATM, but i'm headed to my new office in about 20-30 minutes, i'll have a look then |
| 19:59.21 | kergoth | k, np |
| 19:59.30 | prpplague | oh dandy |
| 19:59.37 | kergoth | i have a local bitbake project with shasum, quilt, linux-2.6, and busybox |
| 19:59.39 | kergoth | no packaging crap yet |
| 19:59.52 | prpplague | OH |
| 19:59.53 | kergoth | next, I'm thinking about a class to try to populate an uber-minimal rootfs without packages |
| 20:00.07 | kergoth | I'm experimenting to try to do better for the kernel/app developer use cases |
| 20:00.07 | prpplague | NICE! |
| 20:00.42 | kergoth | i figured while i was at it, a teeny project area with almost nothing in it might be good for folks like you doing bringup |
| 20:01.00 | prpplague | oh yea, make sure you add devmem2 to the build, it is a must, and the busybox version isn't up to par yet |
| 20:01.23 | kergoth | my current inscm has a git clone of current busybox, with the 1.15 tag checked out |
| 20:02.11 | kergoth | modified it so that the cache is invalidated whenever .git/HEAD changes, so if you check out a different version, it'll automatically reparse it to get the new version number from git |
| 20:02.19 | kergoth | think its promising |
| 20:02.31 | prpplague | oh man!!! |
| 20:02.36 | prpplague | that is freakin dandy |
| 20:02.43 | kergoth | for the rootfs thing, I'm thinking for now just a new task that does a cp -a of the files from the ${D} for the recipes into a global rootfs dir |
| 20:03.04 | kergoth | then maybe some scripty bits to remove unnecessary files, and maybe some sort of postinst handling, or hooks to run user scripts to manipulate the fs, or something.. |
| 20:03.06 | kergoth | thinks |
| 20:03.19 | prpplague | kergoth this sounds like a dream come true |
| 20:03.52 | kergoth | I'm hoping this will let people leverage bitbake's flexibility without getting stuck in the OE high level mode. this is more down in the nitty gritty of what you're working on |
| 20:04.05 | prpplague | kergoth indeed |
| 20:04.23 | kergoth | okay, well i'll keep you posted on it, just wanted to run the idea by you |
| 20:05.23 | kergoth | what's going to be a pain is trying to implement the code to extract / generate version info from scms other than git |
| 20:05.33 | kergoth | since ideally itd be able to use wahtever the user wants to use for their sources |
| 20:05.59 | kergoth | could store this whole project area in an scm repo, all nicely self contained |
| 20:06.04 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:06.12 | prpplague | kergoth there is one additional bitbake method i had started tinkering with, for lack of a better description, i called it "tinker mode", where you bitbake a package, it generates two builds, a clean build and a "tinker" build, you can re-build the tinker build with with your code changes, and once you are done with all your changes you run another bitbake which basically diff's the clean and tinker build and generates a patch |
| 20:06.46 | kergoth | hmmm, will have to give that some thought |
| 20:07.12 | prpplague | kergoth np, it was something i had played with before leaving AML |
| 20:07.13 | kergoth | as a start, the git version extracting will add "-dirty" to the version when there are local changes, so a build before your changes wouldn't have that, and after it would |
| 20:07.23 | kergoth | thinks |
| 20:23.29 | ds2 | *yawn* |
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| 20:42.09 | kergoth | hmmm... a recipe to run a makedevs against a user device table on the global rootfs would be useful, but how to get it to run it last.. hrmph |
| 20:42.13 | kergoth | oh, hmm |
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| 23:51.12 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 23:51.21 | prpplague | GPSFan ping |