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| 00:50.24 | prpplague | any of the OE beagle users awake? |
| 00:57.00 | prpplague | kergoth: ping |
| 01:02.14 | Crofton|work | yeah |
| 01:02.16 | Crofton|work | a little |
| 01:03.06 | prpplague | Crofton|work: my OE build is failing at module-init-tools-cross |
| 01:03.18 | Crofton|work | can you pastebin the log |
| 01:03.24 | Crofton|work | stable or dev? |
| 01:03.25 | prpplague | Crofton|work: i see some other people have had similiar problems, but i'm not finding any solutions posted |
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| 01:05.32 | prpplague | Crofton|work: http://pastebin.ca/1549836 |
| 01:05.50 | Crofton|work | Fedora? |
| 01:06.11 | prpplague | yea |
| 01:06.27 | Crofton|work | [balister@moose ~]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc |
| 01:06.27 | Crofton|work | glibc-2.10.1-4.x86_64 |
| 01:06.27 | Crofton|work | glibc-common-2.10.1-4.x86_64 |
| 01:06.27 | Crofton|work | glibc-static-2.10.1-4.x86_64 |
| 01:06.27 | Crofton|work | glibc-devel-2.10.1-4.x86_64 |
| 01:06.27 | Crofton|work | glibc-headers-2.10.1-4.x86_64 |
| 01:06.29 | Crofton|work | [balister@moose ~]$ |
| 01:06.37 | Crofton|work | make suer glibc-static is installed |
| 01:07.30 | prpplague | yea, not installed, why the heck isn't that documented? |
| 01:08.14 | Crofton|work | it probably is on one of the many wiki pages |
| 01:08.41 | prpplague | checks |
| 01:12.21 | prpplague | Crofton|work: the phrase "glibc-static" is not on any elinux.org wiki page according to me search |
| 01:12.30 | prpplague | Crofton|work: thanks for the info, i'll update the docs |
| 01:13.27 | prpplague | Crofton|work: http://www.mail-archive.com/angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org/msg02563.html |
| 01:13.45 | Crofton|work | http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro#Fedora_11 |
| 01:14.31 | prpplague | Crofton|work: hehe, who reads the OE wiki? |
| 01:14.36 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 01:14.46 | Crofton|work | this distributed pages are good and bad |
| 01:14.58 | Crofton|work | some of them are much more detailed |
| 01:15.04 | Crofton|work | but, have other errors |
| 01:15.12 | prpplague | Crofton|work: yea, i'll add this info into the elinux page i'm using |
| 01:19.58 | prpplague | Crofton|work: thanks bud!! that seems to do the trick |
| 01:20.04 | prpplague | heads home for the day |
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| 01:59.46 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 01:59.56 | prpplague | needs to setup a vpn at the office |
| 02:14.25 | prpplague | Mirell zippy boards should be ready by the end of the week |
| 02:31.46 | solar | prpplague: start the new job yet? |
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| 02:40.58 | Mirell | prpplague: Woot! |
| 02:41.20 | Mirell | prpplague: More interested in potential work right now though. :D |
| 02:42.36 | chouimat | Mirell: hehe |
| 02:44.02 | chouimat | Mirell: work is good ... now I'm waiting for the devkit8000 |
| 02:44.58 | solar | that board looks to be the best deal on the net for a pretty full featured cortex-a8 |
| 02:45.51 | chouimat|Zzzz | solar: yup 390 CAD, including the 7", the vga and shipping |
| 02:46.30 | chouimat|Zzzz | anyway I'm off ... good night everyone |
| 02:47.57 | Mirell | Now to make use of the many frequent flyer miles I had for Cisco to book flights to Ohio Linux Fest. |
| 02:48.20 | solar | save some for fun in the sun/shade |
| 02:48.49 | Mirell | Still got another roundtrip ticket |
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| 03:25.19 | m4t | any of you have any idea why a 'diskboot 0:1' from u-boot would return 'bad crc', but a tftpboot of the same image would work? |
| 03:25.36 | m4t | http://pastebin.com/d2dd87586 |
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| 08:25.05 | florian | good morning |
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| 09:59.52 | SandGorgon | I want to build a 3g modem with a bluetooth tether - something like cellphone tethering, except standalone - i guess the fastest way is to use a board with linux and route 3g over bluetooth using iptables. anyone have any pointers to similar work done, etc? |
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| 12:43.20 | mne | Hi guys. If I remember correctly the Linux atmel_ssc driver is broken and one should use SPI bitbanging with GPIOs instead ? Why is atmel_spi broken, what problems does it cause ? |
| 12:47.29 | gustavoz | it's not broken per se |
| 12:48.08 | gustavoz | it has some limits depending on the processor you use |
| 12:48.21 | gustavoz | s/limits/limitations/ |
| 12:49.25 | mne | gustavoz, I think I confused this with the atmel I2C driver |
| 12:49.56 | gustavoz | mne: that may be it, the I2C driver is indeed bad, but that's because most Atmel ARM processors have a bad I2C controller |
| 12:50.39 | gustavoz | also don't throw in atmel_ssc since that's yet another driver (sync serial) :) |
| 12:54.38 | mne | any why is that bad if I need SPI ? |
| 12:56.29 | gustavoz | the SPI driver has some issues on rm9200 because of chip errata, basically you can't exceed 5 mhz on cs0 |
| 13:00.48 | mne | hmm, ok, that wouldn't be a problem in my case. Do you know if the driver has the same issue on other at91 controllers like the at91sam9260 ? |
| 13:04.56 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:07.57 | gustavoz | same problem with the 9260 and i2c |
| 13:10.00 | mne | gustavoz, no I mean SPI |
| 13:10.21 | gustavoz | mne: IIRC the 9260 is clean |
| 13:10.31 | mne | cool, thanks |
| 13:11.08 | gustavoz | don't get me wrong, atmel_spi works on the rm9200 the only limitation being "don't exceed 5mhz on cs0" |
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| 13:13.36 | mne | yep. But having a CS of at most 5 MHz would be very much ok for my application ;) |
| 13:16.23 | gustavoz | the limit is 5mhz data rate on cs0, not pumping cs0 at 5 mhz |
| 13:20.21 | mne | ok, that makes things different. Fortunately in my application the bitclock would be below 1 MHz which should be ok |
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| 13:55.59 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 13:57.30 | g1powermac | morning prpplague |
| 13:58.01 | prpplague | g1powermac: greetings |
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| 14:15.26 | chouimat | prpplague: good morning |
| 14:15.37 | prpplague | chouimat: greetings |
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| 14:21.24 | florian | hi prpplague |
| 14:21.32 | prpplague | florian: greetings |
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| 16:03.38 | Mirell | Goooooooood morning-type-thing |
| 16:04.07 | prpplague | Mirell: greetings earthling |
| 16:04.22 | g1powermac | Mirell, just missed the morning in ESD :-) |
| 16:05.09 | g1powermac | err, EDT |
| 16:06.10 | kergoth | morning folks |
| 16:06.58 | prpplague | kergoth: greetings |
| 16:07.36 | kergoth | prpplague: ever get a chance to look at that ghetto OpenEmbedded image builder stuff? |
| 16:08.36 | prpplague | kergoth: yea i've got it installed and been poking around at it, but i've been trying to finish an OE build for the beagle |
| 16:08.43 | kergoth | ahh, np |
| 16:08.44 | prpplague | kergoth: hopefully get some time this afternoon |
| 16:08.51 | kergoth | no rush, was just curious |
| 16:09.19 | prpplague | kergoth: yea, its high on my list, just gotta do the "day job" stuff first |
| 16:09.28 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:09.33 | kergoth | know how that goes |
| 16:09.44 | kergoth | has a ton of shit on his plate again for mvl6 for the next release |
| 16:10.13 | kergoth | thinks theres a downside to being one of the only people who know the intricacies of the system... most of the big features somehow land on his plate |
| 16:10.29 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe, i was cursing you last night, trying to get this OE build for the beagle running on fedora 11(yea yea whatever!) |
| 16:10.41 | kergoth | ugh, we really need to start shipping a damn chroot |
| 16:10.43 | kergoth | "build in this" |
| 16:10.51 | kergoth | just too annoying to deal wtih all the build machine issues |
| 16:12.01 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe, last night i was watching an old outer limits where they were going back in time to kill hitler, i had the bizare thought..... get rid of kergoth and there wouldn't be an OE, hehehe |
| 16:12.16 | prpplague | jokes with kergoth |
| 16:12.34 | prpplague | kergoth: because you know OE is evil |
| 16:12.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:13.27 | kergoth | it fits a particular set of needs extremely well. the pda, netbook style device. packages, feeds, installs after deployment, .. |
| 16:13.51 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe i know, just yanking your chain this morning, hehe |
| 16:13.53 | kergoth | others are still useful, just a bit less so |
| 16:14.02 | kergoth | i haven't had enough caffeine yet |
| 16:15.02 | chouimat | ghetto OE stuff? |
| 16:15.09 | chouimat | is currently lost and ... sick |
| 16:15.24 | kergoth | chouimat: i started experimenting with project areas using bitbake to build whose sources are local, no fetch/unpack/patch stuff |
| 16:15.39 | chouimat | kergoth: I see |
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| 16:17.27 | kergoth | chouimat: then i implemented a new rootfs creation class & recipe that avoids packages, just copies ${D} into the rootfs, and runs sudo makedevs, to end up with a nfsrootable rootfs without the packaging stuff |
| 16:17.47 | chouimat | cool |
| 16:18.03 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, he's calling it "ghetto" since he refers to people who use buildroot and such as "you people" hehe |
| 16:18.14 | chouimat | hehe |
| 16:19.08 | kergoth | naw, it's just a really hacky implementation |
| 16:19.16 | kergoth | the concept isnt terrible, but i threw that together in 10 minutes |
| 16:19.44 | chouimat | bbl if I can ... |
| 16:19.52 | prpplague | kergoth: i've got a new board bringup in the works, they want OE support, so i'm planning to give your OE hacks a try on that board |
| 16:19.58 | kergoth | also, i just tend to have a personal preference for package management, since previous admin exp reallly made me see random files all over the drive as disgusting :) |
| 16:20.31 | kergoth | okay, let me know if you need anything. that's just proof of concept type stuff, so there may be more work necessary |
| 16:20.37 | prpplague | kergoth: will do |
| 16:21.13 | kergoth | thankfully it doesn't seem to take me long to implement most features for bitbake/oe. seems like 3 days or so is the longest its taken me to implement anything since coming back to the project |
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| 18:57.42 | prpplague | wmat: ping |
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| 19:40.39 | prpplague | GPSFan: greetings earthling |
| 19:41.13 | GPSFan | prpplague: hey, Mr. consultant.. ;>) |
| 19:41.42 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:42.05 | prpplague | GPSFan: we'll see how that goes in the next couple of months, hehe |
| 19:43.22 | GPSFan | well, you should do well. don't let your health insurance lapse. |
| 19:43.54 | prpplague | never had any with AML, it was crap |
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| 19:59.57 | Mirell | Go Go corp-to-corp |
| 20:00.06 | Mirell | Got insurance through it, which is non-crap. |
| 20:00.41 | prpplague | Mirell: i purchased some generic stuff online for the whole family that was pretty darn reasonable |
| 20:01.15 | Mirell | prpplague: Ahh. The private insurance stuff sucks in my opinion, after trying it for a few months. |
| 20:01.41 | Mirell | prpplague: Same price I'm paying for the corp insurance, $1K deductible instead of $5K on the private insurance. |
| 20:03.29 | prpplague | Mirell: yea the difference for me is the kids, this policy covers alot of the doctors visits with just a small co-pay |
| 20:03.47 | Mirell | Ahh |
| 20:04.00 | Mirell | Yah, that can change things for sure. |
| 20:06.28 | wmat | prpplague: pong |
| 20:07.35 | prpplague | ds2: ping |
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| 21:46.00 | Mirell | PONG |
| 21:52.52 | chouimat | Mirell: not so loud I was asleep ;) |
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| 22:38.47 | Mirell | Hmm... |
| 22:38.58 | Mirell | downloads clang/LLVM source and starts to play around with it.. |