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07:30.53methril|workyo
07:33.26MirellYoYoYo
07:48.03methril|workhi Mirell !!! :)
07:53.09ds2wow more people here now then in the US day time!
08:13.59MirellHeh
08:14.10Mirellhas been busy playing with his Arduino and BeagleBoard.
08:14.22ds2what are you doing with the BB?
08:14.56MirellJust trying to piece together the horrible documentation to figure out how to boot the darn thing, mainly.
08:15.29ds2how are you trying to boot it?
08:15.38ds2it is a straightfoward process
08:15.44MirellIs it?
08:15.48MirellWhere's the documentation for that?
08:15.58MirellBecause I've found about 5 different ways to format the SD card so far.
08:16.05ds2it is so easy, there is no need for docs :D
08:16.13MirellRight,
08:16.19ds21. Use fdisk to change the geometry
08:16.37ds22. mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/foobar1
08:16.39MirellSo, no documentation, means I can plug it in, and it boots! Except, it doesn't come with an OS installed as far as I can tell on NAND
08:16.47MirellSo...stare at it?
08:17.02MirellContinue, don't mind my sarcastic bitterness currently.
08:17.02ds23. mount it and copy mlo and u-boot.bin onto it
08:17.07MirellWhat is MLO?
08:17.20ds2MLO is the file the internal ROM will load
08:17.29MirellAgain, documentation.
08:17.31ds2it is the same as x-loader on NAND
08:17.57ds2it was straight forward for me when I started... *shrug*
08:18.10ds2new boards should have U-boot + Xloader on NAND already
08:18.28MirellI'm sure it's straight forward,
08:18.45ds2all you SHOULD need to do is get a uImage to it, either via kermit or any SD card with a FAT[12|16] partition
08:19.09ds2the whole SD card thing is for folks who fear NAND
08:19.30MirellBut it's just painful there's no, "Hi, you just bought a Beagle Board! Here's a quick how-to boot Linux on it!" document I can find.
08:20.02ds2where did you buy it from?
08:20.07MirellDigi-Key
08:20.11ds2ah
08:20.21MirellIn which I got a board, and a serial cable, and a receipt.
08:20.37ds2Supercomputing (OB disclosure - I do help them a bit) has a ready to go SD card + board package you can get
08:20.52ds2the SD card has Angstrom all ready to run
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08:21.12MirellDoesn't particularly help me now, and I can make my own rootfs on the darn thing, that's not an issue.
08:21.16ds2if you want Linux quicky just to see it, grab the ESC image from BB
08:21.26ds2beagleboard.org I mean
08:21.44ds2dd that onto a 2G SD card and it may work if the geometry is close to what it was made with
08:22.48MirellAha, found a beginner's guide, it seemed hidden below the giant "BUY NOW" thing.
08:23.19ds2there is one?
08:23.28Mirellhttp://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
08:23.47ds2i can walk you through getting it booted but start there then :D
08:25.56MirellOh, I've gotten it to boot Angstrom via the serial console after trial-and-error.
08:26.15MirellNow, how to get it to flash to the NAND is an exercise I'll probably try tomorrow.
08:26.46MirellI've already determined I'm going to write notes and throw them at landley to make all nice and readable.
08:27.39ds2if you get stuck with the NAND, ping me
08:27.51Mirell"Stuck" is not really the correct word,
08:27.59ds2NAND is just like on any other NAND and U-boot setup
08:27.59MirellMore like, "Which set of instructions to follow"
08:28.18ds2it is more of a generic U-boot thing then instructions/recipes
08:28.45ds2it is easier to muck with MTD devices then with U-boot for flashing
08:29.12MirellMy current knowledge of u-boot is enough to boot a different system off NFS
08:29.18MirellThat's...about it.
08:29.30ds2ah gotca
08:29.43ds2I suggest you boot to a shell and use the MTD stuff to flash it
08:30.01ds2then just reconfigure U-boot to pick it up (bootargs line is the main difference)
08:30.57MirellAhh
08:31.16MirellIs there an easy trick to get u-boot to hand off the USB serial console to Linux?
08:34.41ds2seemlessly, no.
08:34.52MirellAlas
08:34.53ds2they both reset and re-enumerate which messes things up
08:35.28MirellShame they didn't just wire the Mini USB port straight into the UART with an FDTI chip or somesuch...
08:36.21ds2easy enough to do externally
08:36.46MirellDidn't see a UART exposed...
08:42.02MirellYah, they just stuck a TI TTL->RS232 chip on it, didn't expose the UART pins. Alas. Anywho.
08:43.17MirellStill, cool little board!
08:43.24MirellJust...need...documentation. :D
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08:48.57ds2there is a 1.8V UART on the expansion header
08:49.36ds2nothing in there that one can't deduce from the schematics
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09:01.54MirellAha
09:02.28Mirell(Didn't even know it had an expansion header...ah..nice...)
09:02.59ds2there is signals for a second SD slot and ability to hook up I2C and SPI stuff on there
09:03.21ds2TCT has a soon to be available board that brings the SD slot signal to a SD socket along witha SPI ethernet
09:03.43ds2I go a LCD/touch screen for it
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09:03.51MirellYah, prpplague mentioned the Zippy
09:04.39floriangood morning
09:04.49MirellMornin'
09:07.11MirellHmm....guess my next thing to do is solder on a connector thingie for the expansion area
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12:16.21chouimatgood morning
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12:22.28g1powermacmorning
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13:32.24chouimatg1powermac: http://photo.klette.us/i/189/bd65a-snapshot1.jpeg
13:40.31g1powermacthrows a 19" crt at chouimat ;-)
13:41.27chouimathehe
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13:53.53g1powermacchouimat, is that on your glorious mac pro?
13:56.38chouimatyup
13:57.04g1powermacdang it ;-)
13:57.25g1powermacshould get a second monitor on his imac
14:18.58g1powermacmorning prpplague
14:20.50prpplaguegreetings
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14:31.35chouimatprpplague: morning ...
14:31.59prpplaguechouimat: greetings frenchy!
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21:53.46Mirellwas going to get a Mac Pro soon when still employed...
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