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| 13:26.45 | prpplague | GPSFan: you already have a beagle? |
| 13:27.04 | GPSFan | prpplague: yes, a c3 |
| 13:27.08 | prpplague | GPSFan: ahh dandy |
| 13:27.36 | prpplague | needs coffee |
| 13:27.59 | GPSFan | jeez, a z2 article on engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/28/38-zipit-wireless-messenger-receives-linux-injection-becomes/ |
| 13:29.49 | prpplague | GPSFan: lame |
| 13:30.18 | prpplague | GPSFan: i guess for people who have no clue, the person who writes up the silliest howto becomes a genius |
| 13:31.28 | GPSFan | prpplague: he's done a fair bit of userland tweaking, |
| 13:32.11 | GPSFan | but it sure attracts a crowd, kernel stuff seems to be ho hum to the masses... |
| 13:32.49 | prpplague | GPSFan: indeed, i've been following, yea all the dev work leading up to letting him run a NES emu on it is forgotten |
| 13:38.47 | GPSFan | prpplague: it's sort of the same with the BB, the userland gets all the glory. |
| 13:38.54 | prpplague | yea |
| 13:39.12 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'll be working on updating u-bootv2 for the beagle this week |
| 13:39.26 | prpplague | GPSFan: going to try and send your stuff, or atleast some of it, this week |
| 13:39.53 | GPSFan | cool, I should be done with my contract work later this week, and tehn it will be just normal farm stuff till winter really sets in. |
| 13:41.14 | prpplague | GPSFan: i don't have access to as much stuff now that i am no longer with AML, but i have some things for you |
| 13:41.50 | GPSFan | prpplague: great, the zippy & SD would be more than enough. |
| 13:43.33 | prpplague | GPSFan: refresh my memory "SD" ? |
| 13:43.57 | GPSFan | showdog? |
| 13:44.27 | prpplague | GPSFan: ahh, yea, the ShowDog isn't ready as of yet, but i'll ship you one when it is |
| 13:44.45 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 13:44.59 | prpplague | GPSFan: you need LCD support for your contract? |
| 13:45.47 | GPSFan | eventually |
| 13:46.21 | GPSFan | demo can be with hdmi connected monitor. |
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| 14:10.15 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:10.58 | prpplague | chouimat: greetings! |
| 14:11.34 | chouimat | had fun this weekend with a broken uboot ... |
| 14:11.46 | prpplague | chouimat: fun fun |
| 14:11.53 | prpplague | is working on ubootv2 today |
| 14:12.18 | chouimat | prpplague: it work but saveenv doesn't work at all so I habd to be creative to get gentoo/arm to boot on the device ... |
| 14:13.06 | prpplague | chouimat: ahh lovely |
| 14:13.36 | chouimat | prpplague: I simply reused what my ex coworkers did on this device to get hipserv running on it |
| 14:13.36 | prpplague | chouimat: i'm not a big fan of ubootv1 , v2 seems to be more inline with what i would like, but it seems there are only a few developers using it |
| 14:14.44 | chouimat | prpplague: not a fan too but hopefully marvell is porting all their changes for orion and kirwood to the upstream uboot so I won't have to have 5 different code base anymore |
| 14:15.51 | prpplague | lordy lordy |
| 14:16.02 | prpplague | i'm having trouble deciding where to start this morning |
| 14:16.18 | chouimat | coffee is a good start |
| 14:19.33 | prpplague | indeed |
| 14:19.41 | prpplague | marks that off the todo list |
| 14:21.12 | chouimat | tries to decide which device to abuse today |
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| 14:43.23 | prpplague | GPSFan: i really wish i could think of a week to jump start some projects using the hammer |
| 14:43.36 | prpplague | GPSFan: atleast to get rid of the existing stock |
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| 16:03.26 | prpplague | g1powermac: ping |
| 16:07.35 | chouimat | lalala |
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| 19:11.43 | prpplague | ds2: don't suppose you looked at the SLS's of the doghouse? |
| 19:11.52 | ds2 | no, I just say the SW renderings |
| 19:12.12 | prpplague | ds2: http://www.elinux.org/DogHouse |
| 19:13.29 | ds2 | Hmmm |
| 19:13.44 | ds2 | I liked the SW model better ;) |
| 19:13.59 | prpplague | ds2: can you explain? |
| 19:14.25 | ds2 | that is a LOT of draft you have on there, do you really need that much? |
| 19:14.44 | ds2 | this model looks flimsy whereas the SW ones looks stouter |
| 19:15.10 | prpplague | ds2: don't forget get per the notes, this is a SLS |
| 19:15.28 | prpplague | ds2: as to the "draft" i'm not sure i understand what you are refering to? |
| 19:16.09 | ds2 | draft == angled sides so that the plastic can be removed from the molds |
| 19:16.27 | ds2 | 0 draft is very hard to do unless you have some nasty shrinkage tricks |
| 19:16.50 | chouimat | oops I think I forgot something today |
| 19:17.19 | prpplague | ds2: yes the draft needs to be that much in order to make the no slides possible |
| 19:17.20 | ds2 | or putting it another way, the box looks more of a stretched hexagon when you look at it from the side (i,e. staring straight at the connectors) |
| 19:17.40 | prpplague | ds2: the photo's are deceiving |
| 19:17.50 | ds2 | oh |
| 19:17.58 | prpplague | ds2: it isn't as much as it appears in the photos |
| 19:18.33 | ds2 | hmmmm looks like you have close to 10deg of draft on each side |
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| 19:19.53 | prpplague | ds2: i'd have to check the mechanicals, but iirc it is more like 8 |
| 19:20.17 | ds2 | ouch, that is quite a bit... for some molds, 1-1.5deg is workable |
| 19:20.20 | prpplague | ds2: btw what size 800x480 display were you looking at? |
| 19:20.38 | ds2 | the one I am evaluating before the @%Q#$@#%@#(*%$)@#$@# plastics guy blew up on me is 7" |
| 19:20.39 | prpplague | ds2: yea, like i said, it was done so we can do the entire piece without slides |
| 19:21.19 | prpplague | ds2: isn't that really big? i was looking at more like 4.8" to 5.6" |
| 19:21.51 | ds2 | prpplague: depends.... it is small in some ways and big in others |
| 19:22.07 | ds2 | if you want a pocket beagle, it is huge... |
| 19:22.47 | ds2 | aren't you going to get reamed by the CNC folks for having that much draft? |
| 19:23.20 | ds2 | it'll either be a custom ground EM or you will pay through the nose in CNC time or polishing time to do it with a ball EM |
| 19:23.30 | ds2 | either way, it ain't pleasant |
| 19:23.44 | prpplague | <ds2> aren't you going to get reamed by the CNC folks for having that much draft? |
| 19:23.59 | prpplague | nope, the hardtool right now is even less than i had expected |
| 19:24.17 | ds2 | hmmm wonder which way they are going to go to do it |
| 19:24.36 | ds2 | or maybe they have a grinding shop in house to do the custom EM's? |
| 19:24.48 | prpplague | ds2: sorry i am not following you |
| 19:24.50 | ds2 | checks MSC |
| 19:25.43 | ds2 | take that back |
| 19:25.52 | ds2 | 7deg and 10deg are standard tapers |
| 19:26.09 | ds2 | prpplague: EM == Endmill...the tools the CNC folks would use to cut it |
| 19:26.18 | ds2 | I do CNC so... |
| 19:27.01 | prpplague | ds2: ahh, i don't get into that portion of it, we simply follow the specs/recommendations and let them worry about doing the hardtool |
| 19:27.03 | ds2 | it is still a $80 EM...HE HE HE |
| 19:27.27 | ds2 | prpplague: I prefer to understand the process |
| 19:27.38 | prpplague | ds2: i do as well, up to a point |
| 19:27.57 | ds2 | i go all the way down to the manufacturing bits |
| 19:28.18 | prpplague | ds2: yea i don't need to know that much |
| 19:30.56 | ds2 | I work end to end from design, to bring up, to getting things mfg'ed |
| 19:31.24 | Mirell | Hmm... |
| 19:32.00 | prpplague | ds2: yea i can understand that, but just because i order pcbs doesn't mean i need to know how they are producing them |
| 19:32.36 | ds2 | prpplague: it helps with the failure analysis when using lower end vendors |
| 19:33.02 | prpplague | ds2: indeed |
| 19:33.31 | prpplague | ds2: just that if you get bogged down in too many detail you end up not getting things done |
| 19:33.47 | ds2 | to an extent |
| 19:34.11 | ds2 | but then I also run a small CNC shop for protos so... |
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| 20:06.42 | keesj | ÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂÂ |
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| 20:11.25 | Mirell | Indeed. |
| 20:14.18 | likewise | gm |
| 20:15.22 | ds2 | bbl, lunch |
| 20:20.03 | *** mode/#edev [+o prpplague] by ChanServ |
| 20:20.07 | *** topic/#edev by prpplague -> a channel for the discussion of embedded systems,including hardware, software, linux, wince, and commercial device repurposing - no work/job/contract solicitations allow |
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| 20:26.14 | g1powermac_EPC | prpplague: pong |
| 20:26.22 | prpplague | g1powermac_EPC: ping |
| 20:26.39 | g1powermac_EPC | :-) |
| 20:26.43 | prpplague | g1powermac_EPC: your Z2 pages still up? |
| 20:27.10 | g1powermac_EPC | should be. . . |
| 20:29.29 | g1powermac_EPC | http://zipit2system.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 20:30.58 | prpplague | g1powermac: thanks |
| 20:31.29 | g1powermac_EPC | ya welcome |
| 20:37.21 | *** topic/#edev by prpplague -> a channel for the discussion of embedded systems,including hardware, software, linux, wince, and commercial device repurposing - Please refrain from active solicitation of work/contracts |
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| 20:39.48 | g1powermac_EPC | awwww, but we still need a manager, dang it ;-) |
| 20:40.13 | prpplague | g1powermac_EPC: hehe |
| 20:40.49 | g1powermac_EPC | prpplague: so hows it going with the business? |
| 20:41.09 | prpplague | g1powermac_EPC: just want to keep the channel neutral area and not full of job posting and work solitations |
| 20:41.15 | prpplague | g1powermac_EPC: not too bad soo far |
| 20:41.22 | g1powermac_EPC | awesome |
| 20:41.48 | prpplague | g1powermac_EPC: got enough in the bank already in the last 45 days to pay the bills for about 6 months |
| 20:42.18 | g1powermac_EPC | great! |
| 20:46.18 | chouimat | prpplague: so take a few months off then ;-p |
| 20:46.35 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe i don't play that game, hehe |
| 20:47.12 | chouimat | prpplague: I took 3 months off ... and I really needed it |
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