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| 00:28.59 | monkey | prpplague_afk: I need a hand when you get a chance |
| 00:37.19 | GammaX | MonMotha, Do you think the altera cyclone 3 would be a good product to use for what I want? |
| 00:40.05 | MonMotha | GammaX: I don't see any form of high speed serial I/O on that device, which would necessitate external components for SATA. Not necessarily a problem, but SATA PHYs are darn hard to come by in my experience, and most fully-integrated PCI or similar SATA controllers are host only. |
| 00:41.06 | MonMotha | Cyclone III only claims 875Mbps LVDS, while SATA is 1.5Gbps. Also have to make sure that any high-speed serial interface on an FPGA you pick supports the weird out of band signaling that SATA uses if you want to use it for that. |
| 00:41.31 | GammaX | What was the one that you recomended before? |
| 00:42.01 | MonMotha | I think the Spartan 6 from Xilinx can do SATA in a lowish cost device |
| 00:42.53 | MonMotha | Altera also has a lowish cost FPGA with a suitably fast transceiver, IIRC |
| 00:42.54 | GammaX | lookin it up now, So anyway how did you get into this area of expertise? |
| 00:43.16 | MonMotha | I think both come in around $150 in qty. 50-ish |
| 00:43.32 | MonMotha | I work as a product development engineer. This is just what I do. |
| 00:44.14 | MonMotha | yeah, Spartan 6 LXT has 3.125Gbps capable transceivers, so you might even be able to do SATA 2.0 |
| 00:44.24 | MonMotha | that's just the I/O piece of the equation, of course |
| 00:45.10 | GammaX | OK, Embedded dev seems like a realy interesting area. It all reminds me of arduino.... except realy hard haha |
| 00:46.30 | MonMotha | I've worked with systems ranging from 8051s with 128 bytes of RAM and AVRs with NO RAM (just the registers!) all the way up to multiple 100MHz ARM systems running Linux |
| 00:47.26 | GammaX | Jease.... Im assuming you have a masters or something right? |
| 00:48.14 | MonMotha | no |
| 00:49.02 | GammaX | bachelors? |
| 00:50.29 | MonMotha | yes |
| 00:52.52 | MonMotha | My degree is actually in Computer Engineering (which is NOT the same as Computer Science), but I don't really let the name of the degree be restrictive. I've actually done off-line power supply designs before, too. |
| 00:53.45 | MonMotha | I had a really neat design that took 22-180VDC or 22-120VAC input with no adjustments. Only about 10W out @ 24VDC, but it was pretty neat nonetheless. |
| 00:56.30 | GammaX | I thought about goin to school for embedded engineering but I just dont see it happening... Maby learn it on the side |
| 01:05.58 | GammaX | MonMotha, If I know nothing about embedded design, How hard would it be to learn it and go from there? |
| 01:09.35 | MonMotha | um, that's a pretty broad question... |
| 01:15.39 | GammaX | I think its just a little overwhelming and Im thinkin about sayin screw having someone design it when I can be a hermit for a little while and do it my self. Then if I ever get a working product I can bring it to a designer and say, What do you think... |
| 01:17.38 | MonMotha | certainly an option |
| 01:19.03 | GammaX | Although I had a great idea 3 years ago to design and build performance car parts... I learned how to use cam software and bought an industrial cnc machine... then the cnc machine broke and havnt touched it haha |
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| 01:35.41 | haljaq | has anyone tried implementing I2S over the SPI port (on arm)? |
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| 01:50.10 | MonMotha | haljaq: you mean like software managing the LRCK signal? |
| 01:50.25 | MonMotha | seems like you'd have major trouble with sample jitter |
| 01:51.09 | MonMotha | which ARM (manufacturer)? The onboard peripherals vary. |
| 01:51.34 | haljaq | MonMotha: I am looking into the LPC series..from NXP |
| 01:52.11 | haljaq | MonMotha: what do you mean by sample jitter? |
| 01:52.24 | MonMotha | hum, not too familiar with the onboard peripherals on those. Do they have some sort of generic serial controller? Atmel has their "SSC" which can be program to do I2S. |
| 01:52.49 | haljaq | hm let me see |
| 01:53.08 | haljaq | i've never heard of SSC |
| 01:53.42 | MonMotha | the sample clock on I2S is defined by the LRCK signal, which you'd have to manage in software generally to use a SPI controller like this. |
| 01:54.23 | haljaq | oh |
| 01:54.32 | MonMotha | LRCK aka the "word clock" |
| 01:54.41 | MonMotha | not to be confused with the bit clock or serial clock, which would be your SPI clock line |
| 01:54.52 | haljaq | how are they different? |
| 01:55.53 | haljaq | the LPC 1751 has SSP serial IO controller |
| 01:56.29 | MonMotha | the bit clock is used to clock the bits across the line (i.e. it has a rising and falling edge per bit), while the word clock is used to separate the two samples in stereo audio (depending on whether the word clock is high or low) and to tell the receive to do the parallel load (i.e. place the output on the DAC) on one edge once the entire sample for both channels has been transferred |
| 01:56.57 | MonMotha | the word clock functions much like a SPI chip select, but since it has crucial timing associated with it and data is transferred in both states of the line, it's not exactly like SPI |
| 01:57.14 | MonMotha | yeah, I'd assume the NXP devices could do I2S. NXP (well, Philips before they spun NXP off) invented it. |
| 01:57.33 | MonMotha | http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/various/I2SBUS.pdf is the spec |
| 01:57.52 | haljaq | ah yes i saw that one |
| 01:58.56 | haljaq | couldnt the word clock be pulsed on a fast GPIO? |
| 01:59.33 | MonMotha | yes, but you'd have to be very careful to guarantee service to the software handling that GPIO, otherwise you'll get sample jitter |
| 01:59.51 | MonMotha | it would also make DMA transfer impossible |
| 02:00.28 | haljaq | i am guessing sample jitter is just like loosing a split second of sound |
| 02:00.35 | MonMotha | no |
| 02:00.43 | MonMotha | the samples will not be output at the proper place in time |
| 02:00.58 | haljaq | as in delays? |
| 02:00.59 | MonMotha | a little sample jitter is normal and unavoidable, but you'd be introducing a lot |
| 02:01.23 | haljaq | well playing a 5 second sound would probably be fine |
| 02:01.27 | MonMotha | you'd also chew up a lot of CPU time to manag that GPIO |
| 02:01.43 | haljaq | true |
| 02:01.51 | MonMotha | that GPIO has to toggle at 2x the sample rate |
| 02:02.10 | haljaq | oh wow, that'd be pretty fast |
| 02:02.31 | MonMotha | also, note that the LRCK signal changes before the last bit of the serial data is transferred. That basically negates the ability to use the hardware SPI controller at all. |
| 02:02.37 | MonMotha | so you'd effectively be bit banging the whole thing |
| 02:02.55 | haljaq | UART would probably work |
| 02:03.07 | MonMotha | now, it sounds like your micro has some sort of serial controller designed for this. Many ARMs do. |
| 02:03.21 | MonMotha | no, a UART would not be usable at all for this, though some USARTs might |
| 02:03.30 | haljaq | okay |
| 02:03.34 | MonMotha | I suspect NXP has an app note on this |
| 02:04.27 | haljaq | i couldnt find much info regarding this on the internet |
| 02:04.36 | haljaq | only i2S specifications |
| 02:04.38 | MonMotha | actually, it looks like NXP has some devices with dedicated I2S ports |
| 02:04.59 | haljaq | yes you are right |
| 02:05.04 | MonMotha | LPC2364/2366/2368/2378 |
| 02:05.07 | MonMotha | possibly others |
| 02:05.13 | haljaq | im just trying to lower the production cost :P |
| 02:05.25 | MonMotha | I know Atmel has an app note on configuring their SSC to do I2S |
| 02:05.35 | haljaq | wikis SSC |
| 02:05.59 | MonMotha | there may not be a wiki article on it |
| 02:06.24 | MonMotha | each chip maker has their own onboard peripherals, and that tends to include their own flavor of generic synchronous serial controllers |
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| 02:06.59 | haljaq | mhm |
| 02:08.30 | haljaq | oh well might as well just get an arm with i2s |
| 02:08.58 | MonMotha | certainly seems like the best/easiest option |
| 02:09.47 | haljaq | indeed. the only code i have found is one post on avrfreaks |
| 02:10.15 | haljaq | runs on atmega88 at 20MHz |
| 02:20.06 | haljaq | MonMotha: would you happen to use usbprog? |
| 02:30.32 | MonMotha | never used it, no |
| 02:31.25 | MonMotha | I have a JTAGICE mk2 for AVR, and I usually just borrow somebody's Olimex thingie for ARM |
| 02:31.37 | haljaq | haha nice |
| 02:32.20 | haljaq | usbprog looks pretty good - avr, jtag, etc all in one |
| 02:32.28 | MonMotha | I've done more AVR stuff on my own |
| 02:32.41 | haljaq | i see |
| 02:32.54 | MonMotha | ARM stuff has mostly been for hire |
| 02:33.08 | haljaq | for hire? |
| 02:33.22 | MonMotha | as in for a company that was paying me |
| 02:33.28 | haljaq | ah yes |
| 02:34.35 | haljaq | by the way, for linear motor/ electromagnet coil control, would avr or arm suit the job best? |
| 02:35.04 | MonMotha | depends on what you need to do |
| 02:35.12 | MonMotha | There are some AVRs specially designed for motor control |
| 02:35.21 | MonMotha | they have enhanced PWM generation capabilities |
| 02:35.34 | MonMotha | I wouldn't think you'd need the horsepower of an ARM for such a task in most cases, either |
| 02:35.48 | haljaq | I will probably need more than 30 pwm ports |
| 02:36.08 | haljaq | for the same device |
| 02:36.34 | MonMotha | woah...I'm not sure I know of any devices with that many PWM outputs |
| 02:36.40 | haljaq | and they all have to coordinate to a pot (for orientation) and slider for speed |
| 02:37.34 | haljaq | hold on..they probably use dedicated ICs and talk to the uC |
| 02:37.51 | haljaq | no sure though |
| 02:38.54 | haljaq | but probably a FPGA can handle 30 pwms? |
| 02:38.58 | MonMotha | sure |
| 02:39.18 | MonMotha | PWM generation isn't too complicated. Probably wouldn't even need a very big FPGA. |
| 02:39.33 | haljaq | then most likely i will have to learn hdll and all that from scratch |
| 02:39.34 | MonMotha | heck, you might even be able to cram a soft core MCU into a reasonably sized FPGA with all your PWM stuff |
| 02:39.50 | haljaq | yea |
| 02:39.52 | MonMotha | other option would be to use several micros with the PWM output capabilities you need |
| 02:40.17 | haljaq | that would probably increase delays? |
| 02:40.44 | haljaq | i mean, to have a central uC connected to siblings that do the PWM |
| 02:42.06 | MonMotha | what kind of update rate are you talking? The slaves will handle PWM generation and should have time to do their own feedback loops, for example |
| 02:42.11 | MonMotha | you'd just have to send out the setpoints from the master |
| 02:42.57 | haljaq | hm |
| 02:43.49 | haljaq | well all i can say is that its a maglev + propulsion through linear motor prototype. havent figured it out much yet |
| 02:44.30 | MonMotha | well, sounds neat |
| 02:44.36 | haljaq | :) |
| 02:44.42 | haljaq | and complicated |
| 02:46.37 | MonMotha | but that just makes it fun! :) |
| 02:47.12 | haljaq | heh definately. and also exploring the unknown --fpgas :P |
| 02:47.48 | haljaq | its going to be really tight. i have only 2-3 months oof planning |
| 02:48.22 | haljaq | including learning all about fpgas |
| 02:49.31 | haljaq | well i have to go now. thanks alot for the help MonMotha! |
| 02:57.42 | MonMotha | ok |
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| 14:07.05 | prpplague | kergoth: greetings |
| 14:07.21 | prpplague | kergoth: dungot cold where ya at? |
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| 14:07.53 | prpplague | tries to find some sony parts on the grey market |
| 14:14.35 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:15.01 | prpplague | chouimat: greetings frenchy |
| 14:16.18 | chouimat | prpplague: hi |
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| 14:18.12 | Zoiah | Hi prpplague |
| 14:18.22 | prpplague | Zoiah: greetings earthling |
| 14:18.37 | Zoiah | That's very prejudiced. ;) |
| 14:19.29 | Zoiah | Anyhow, landley told me you're the guy to ask regarding some troubles I'm running into in repurposing some devices I have. |
| 14:19.43 | Zoiah | I have 2 unused devices based on Broadcom StrataSwitch architecture. One 3com 3870 (actually an Accton/Edgecore ES-4649) and one Dell PowerConnect (actually made by Delta Networks). |
| 14:19.56 | Zoiah | Both are powered by a MPC8245 and have two JTAG connectors on the board. One COP-layout with the MPC8245 behind it and one PLD-layout with 2 CPLDs behind it. |
| 14:20.28 | Zoiah | I got a Olimex ARM-OCD-USB which is able to connect to both JTAG ports. OpenOCD, UrJTAG and TopJTAG are all able to traverse the JTAG chain and see the devices, so I believe the connection is ok. |
| 14:20.35 | Zoiah | My current goal is to read and write the Flash ROM(s) on the devices. You can download binary updates from the manufacturers website, but this does not contain the bootloader. |
| 14:20.52 | Zoiah | OpenOCD does not support the MPC8245 at all. |
| 14:20.59 | Zoiah | UrJTAG supports doing memory I/O to the MPC8245, but is not able to detect any flash on any of the common (or uncommon) locations. |
| 14:21.09 | Zoiah | TopJTAG Flash Programmer directly toggles the pins of the flash device, but this requires you to know which flash pins are connected to which pins on the MPC8245. I do not have schematics, nor do I know how to trace the signals from the flash device to the MPC8245 BGA, so this does not work for me either. I foud some MPC824x-based reference schematics on the internet and tried their setup to no avail. |
| 14:21.41 | Zoiah | So I'm kinda stumped here. Do you have any idea how to proceed with my goal of reading (and possibly even writing) the flash roms on this? |
| 14:22.02 | Zoiah | They're not socketed. I've read about some in-system flash programmer devices, but they're a bit out of hobbyist-pricing. |
| 14:24.09 | prpplague | Zoiah: i'm not familiar with the MPC8245, what core is that based on? |
| 14:24.24 | Zoiah | MPC603e |
| 14:24.36 | prpplague | Zoiah: arm, ppc, mips, x86 ? |
| 14:24.39 | Zoiah | PPC |
| 14:24.49 | prpplague | Zoiah: ahh |
| 14:25.54 | prpplague | Zoiah: probably the best place for you to start is with a wiki page on http://www.elinux.org , and start doing a complete chip list. once you have all the facts down on paper(so to speak) it is much easier to reason out the next step |
| 14:26.51 | Zoiah | Just add a page on the hardware hacking section? |
| 14:27.37 | Zoiah | As far as I can see all of these switches I've seen are basically a MPC8245 with some flash and ram and a Broadcom switch fabric connected to and controlled via the PCI bus. |
| 14:29.45 | Zoiah | So I think that since I have a JTAG connection a reasonable next step would be to try to dump the complete flash rom. |
| 14:32.37 | prpplague | one sec phone |
| 14:47.52 | Zoiah | Np. |
| 14:53.06 | prpplague | Zoiah: yea, start a page something like http://www.elinux.org/StrataSwitch |
| 14:53.11 | prpplague | Zoiah: and document it there |
| 14:54.31 | mnemoc | hi prpplague... please don't forget about me :( |
| 14:54.53 | prpplague | mnemoc: yep sorry, i'll be with you shortly on it |
| 14:55.03 | mnemoc | thx :) |
| 14:56.05 | Zoiah | prpplague: ok, I'll do this. |
| 14:56.49 | Zoiah | prpplague: also the software-details I've documented at http://stuff.zoiah.net/doku.php?id=accton:start ? |
| 14:58.04 | mnemoc | elinux.org is always preferred ;-) |
| 15:11.14 | prpplague | i hate trying to purchase parts via the grey market, you never know if you are going to get your parts, if they are the right ones, or just plain get taken for your money |
| 15:11.32 | mnemoc | what is grey market, ebay? |
| 15:12.47 | prpplague | mnemoc: a white market would be something like digikey or mouser who retail the parts openly |
| 15:13.10 | prpplague | mnemoc: black market is something that is illegal to resale |
| 15:14.16 | prpplague | mnemoc: grey markets are resalers that sell things that are suppose to be for specific uses, for instance, many of the Chinese manufacturers do production for companies like Sony and they have parts left over after production |
| 15:14.36 | prpplague | mnemoc: those parts are not suppose to be resold, since they are specific to sony products |
| 15:14.51 | prpplague | mnemoc: but many of the Chinese companies resale them anyway |
| 15:15.29 | prpplague | mnemoc: so it is half way between white and black, not totally legal, but not totally illegal |
| 15:17.24 | mnemoc | do componenets sold in ebay or ... dealextreme fit on that category? |
| 15:17.50 | mnemoc | any other "recommended" online site for the purpose? |
| 15:18.21 | prpplague | mnemoc: no, most likely those would be considered white, since companies like samsung and sony regularly check ebay for parts and such that should not be there |
| 15:18.31 | mnemoc | ic |
| 15:18.44 | prpplague | mnemoc: hkinventory.com and netcomponents.com |
| 15:18.55 | mnemoc | thx :) |
| 15:19.47 | chouimat | damn the CF card reader pins are broken ... but the other readers works |
| 15:25.03 | prpplague | one quote for the part is $2.50 another quote has it at $12.75 |
| 15:25.15 | prpplague | what a difference |
| 15:25.28 | chouimat | 10.25? |
| 15:26.01 | mnemoc | gray market vs. ... digikey? |
| 15:26.32 | prpplague | mnemoc: different grey market vendors |
| 15:26.52 | prpplague | chouimat: $10.25 is a big difference on a single part |
| 15:27.12 | chouimat | cool my walking purring wrist pad decided to show up this morning |
| 15:27.21 | chouimat | prpplague: I know |
| 15:27.30 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe |
| 15:28.12 | chouimat | prpplague: this is what I was missing when I was working at axentra ... my cat showing up and telling me it's time to take a break |
| 15:47.10 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, just got one quote for $20.00 per unit |
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| 16:41.02 | prpplague | chouimat: good lord i just got another quote back for $26.00USD per unit |
| 16:45.25 | MonMotha | prpplague: one problem I've heard of with the gray market stuff is people getting packages with empty leadframes - no die! |
| 16:45.50 | prpplague | monkey: yea i've heard that one as well |
| 16:46.02 | MonMotha | oh, so I'm a monkey now? :) |
| 16:46.29 | prpplague | oops |
| 16:46.34 | prpplague | sorry autocomplete |
| 16:46.48 | MonMotha | also had an instance where someone had to source some EOL parts via gray market sources and got obvious pulls. Leads were all bent up and caked in solder. |
| 16:46.59 | prpplague | MonMotha: calling you a monkey behind your back and saying it on irc are two different things |
| 16:47.09 | MonMotha | you're darned right! |
| 16:47.20 | MonMotha | one I don't know about, the other I do! :) |
| 16:47.21 | prpplague | MonMotha: indeed, that is what i am worried about |
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| 17:21.13 | chouimat | prpplague: ouch |
| 17:28.24 | chouimat | prpplague: sorry for the late comment, I'm busy reading this book http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_and_Prejudice_and_Zombies |
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| 23:21.16 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 23:21.16 | prpplague | ~seen cosmicpenguin |
| 23:21.19 | purl | cosmicpenguin <n=nobody@66-162-99-237.static.twtelecom.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 5d 23h 19m 7s ago, saying: 'That must be it'. |
| 23:21.32 | prpplague | must be |
| 23:24.12 | prpplague | ugh brain... on ... overload......POP |
| 23:24.20 | monkey | hey prpplague |
| 23:24.33 | prpplague | monkey hey bud |
| 23:24.40 | prpplague | monkey jtag issues right? |
| 23:24.44 | monkey | yeah |
| 23:24.58 | monkey | or getting openocd setup |
| 23:25.02 | monkey | in linux. |
| 23:25.15 | prpplague | monkey what jtag device are you using? |
| 23:25.38 | monkey | arm-usb-ocd |
| 23:26.01 | prpplague | who makes that one? |
| 23:26.08 | prpplague | googles |
| 23:26.08 | monkey | olimex |
| 23:26.11 | prpplague | ahh |
| 23:26.22 | prpplague | what arm device are you trying to work with? |
| 23:26.44 | monkey | lpc2378 with arm7-tdmis |
| 23:27.01 | monkey | http://www.olimex.com/dev/lpc-2378stk.html |
| 23:27.05 | prpplague | monkey please note, i've just finished 5 10 hour days on a project and i;m a little loopy |
| 23:27.22 | monkey | http://www.olimex.com/dev/arm-usb-ocd.html |
| 23:27.29 | monkey | it's cool. no worries. i appreciate any help |
| 23:28.32 | prpplague | monkey my suggestion is go back to openocd-redux , arm7tdmi is fully supported in that version and it just plain works |
| 23:29.16 | monkey | ok. |
| 23:29.35 | prpplague | openocd has been moving in a bad(tm) direction for some time |
| 23:29.59 | monkey | i just installed whatever openocd was in the yum repo, i'm looking for the redux now |
| 23:30.13 | prpplague | i have it on linuxtogo.com |
| 23:30.27 | monkey | thats what i'm on |
| 23:30.45 | prpplague | monkey what are you working on this for? |
| 23:30.48 | monkey | school |
| 23:44.02 | roxfan | http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/10/15/arm-launch-a5-core-next-week/ |