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| 03:19.18 | solar | Mirell: still around/awake? |
| 03:24.51 | Mirell | solar: Yep |
| 03:24.54 | Mirell | solar: What's up? |
| 03:26.26 | solar | Mirell: ahh just wondering what you told cisco today. |
| 03:26.37 | Mirell | solar: ? |
| 03:26.43 | Mirell | solar: I haven't worked for Cisco since August. |
| 03:26.53 | solar | cash vs slave |
| 03:27.13 | solar | you said they had offered you 100k+ this morning iirc |
| 03:27.20 | Mirell | solar: That was ACS |
| 03:27.29 | Mirell | solar: ACS -> Cisco -> BreakingPoint Systems |
| 03:28.01 | Mirell | solar: They offered me $100K+ back in January when I was leaving ACS, to go to Cisco |
| 03:28.17 | solar | oh then that offsets my suggestions then |
| 03:28.37 | Mirell | solar: Worked for Cisco for a while, until they shitcanned me and all the other contractors, caused most of the department to resign, and basically doomed Linksys |
| 03:28.40 | Mirell | Heh. |
| 03:29.08 | solar | so linksys is going to die off here in the near future? or already dead... |
| 03:29.25 | Mirell | It's already dead. |
| 03:29.41 | Mirell | The project I was working on was the only thing that was going to ship in 2009. |
| 03:29.53 | Mirell | It was cancelled, and the longer-term projects were cancelled, |
| 03:30.24 | Mirell | And it was v2 of an existing product, the first product had Linksys by Cisco branding, the v2 was merely Cisco. |
| 03:30.31 | Mirell | So the Linksys brand name is dead, dead, dead. |
| 03:30.49 | solar | thats good and bad |
| 03:31.33 | solar | cisco wont sell by it's brand name at places like bestbuy/frys/sams/costco |
| 03:32.04 | solar | it knows better as that would downplay it's main product lines |
| 03:32.52 | Mirell | solar: It already does Linksys by Cisco |
| 03:33.23 | Mirell | solar: And Cisco seemed perfectly willing to sell the v2 of this product at "Cisco" |
| 03:33.30 | Mirell | solar: And it was a consumer electronics device for sure |
| 03:34.04 | Mirell | Speaking of which, I got my CES badge that still claims I've from Cisco, Inc. |
| 03:34.09 | solar | right. But you just said they are doing away with linksys as a brand |
| 03:34.18 | Mirell | Yep |
| 03:34.44 | solar | so how will they pawn cheap .cn crap off to the us market? |
| 03:35.13 | Mirell | From what I hear, their money maker right now is the Flip Video guys |
| 03:35.32 | Mirell | Apparently, a lot of the people in Irvine were shifted to work on that product line |
| 03:39.57 | solar | so have you found anything in the area that pays you well enough? |
| 03:50.00 | Mirell | solar: BreakingPoint pays all right |
| 03:50.17 | Mirell | solar: And also pre-IPO stock grant |
| 03:50.27 | solar | oh so you are will working the same contract more or less? |
| 03:50.40 | Mirell | solar: For Cisco? Yah. |
| 03:50.49 | Mirell | But I'm at BreakingPoint now. |
| 03:51.12 | solar | carefull on those stocks. Way too many times have I seen them traded on behalf of real wages |
| 03:51.22 | solar | slash overtime when on salery |
| 03:52.14 | solar | think they got what it takes to go IPO? |
| 03:52.34 | Mirell | The guys are mostly Tipping Point departures |
| 03:52.49 | Mirell | So yah |
| 03:54.31 | solar | if you are still youngish. then nab that up. earn as much as you can as fast as you can, so later in life you can slack off and do what makes you happy |
| 03:55.31 | solar | I so dislike working for others. |
| 03:55.41 | Mirell | solar: I'm 24. |
| 03:55.55 | solar | I've have a few business along the way. I'm 36 |
| 03:56.04 | solar | both failed ;/ |
| 03:56.06 | Mirell | So I think I'm still youngish. |
| 03:56.10 | Mirell | Heh. |
| 03:57.04 | solar | first one was due to lack of sales and too much man power. second was due to too many jobs and no enough man power and forethinking |
| 03:57.43 | solar | I took a job some years back to try and learn how things are done right |
| 03:58.02 | solar | what I've learned is how to "fail" in many diff ways |
| 03:58.52 | Mirell | Mmm |
| 03:59.03 | solar | sad shame. I kinda think way too much about how to go out of business vs being in it. |
| 03:59.36 | solar | one I will reach pro-fail? |
| 04:01.28 | solar | j/k no really I've learned a alot of what to avoid. who to never hire etc. |
| 04:01.59 | Mirell | Who to never hire, eh. |
| 04:02.02 | solar | before launching via self. You/we need to understand what works and what fails |
| 04:02.07 | Mirell | Such as, other than the obvious? |
| 04:02.31 | solar | when things grow big they also grow stupid |
| 04:02.49 | solar | so you loose touch with who hires what |
| 04:03.41 | solar | I'm a fan of slow and smart. |
| 04:04.13 | Mirell | Ben and Jerry model, eh |
| 04:05.55 | solar | don't know said |
| 04:06.46 | Mirell | http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000056.html |
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| 16:14.13 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:14.43 | kergoth | morning chouimat |
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| 16:30.32 | Mirell | It is morningish. |
| 16:30.41 | chouimat | is probably driving his neighbors nut by listening the same song over and over again |
| 16:36.34 | Mirell | Poor neighborsd |
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| 16:41.48 | chouimat | Mirell: I discovered this nice band http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eluveitie |
| 16:41.56 | chouimat | and I can't stop listening to them |
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| 16:55.45 | Mirell | And you're playing it really loud, eh |
| 16:56.03 | chouimat | yup |
| 16:56.30 | chouimat | bbl lunch time |
| 17:03.20 | prpplague | chouimat: looks like amazon has a number of their albums - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&field-keywords=Eluveitie&x=0&y=0 |
| 17:05.40 | dijenerate | hi all |
| 17:05.46 | dijenerate | prpplague: howdy |
| 17:05.54 | prpplague | dijenerate: greetings |
| 17:06.34 | prpplague | dijenerate: might be making a trip to the island soon, gotta help my brother in law out with some networking stuff for his business |
| 17:07.01 | dijenerate | prpplague: ok |
| 17:07.19 | prpplague | dijenerate: whats cookin today? |
| 17:07.25 | dijenerate | prpplague: well let me know when, we should have a banks or something |
| 17:07.30 | dijenerate | prpplague: I'm looking for embedded router hardware for a commercial application... tempted to go x86 and run Vyatta |
| 17:08.32 | prpplague | dieter|work: the atmel NGW is pretty dandy |
| 17:08.34 | dijenerate | prpplague: need something that can handle multiple radios 5GHz and 2.4GHx wifi as well as Gigabit LAN and at least 1 usb2.0 port... so all the hardware is the same |
| 17:08.47 | dijenerate | prpplague: linky... |
| 17:08.47 | prpplague | dijenerate: ahh |
| 17:09.03 | prpplague | dijenerate: that's a little more than the NGW is probably up for |
| 17:09.13 | dijenerate | prpplague: lol |
| 17:09.29 | prpplague | http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=4102 |
| 17:10.36 | dijenerate | prpplague: well that's just the hardware... main reason for x86 is I want to run them all as a cluster and use a virtual router, virtual apache/PHP/MySql server mirroring a server outside of the immediate area |
| 17:11.17 | SpeedEvil | eeepc class? |
| 17:12.01 | dijenerate | SpeedEvil: yeah, atom can work for the job, but haven't found many with multi radio configs |
| 17:12.13 | SpeedEvil | dijenerate: I was meaning USB |
| 17:12.36 | dijenerate | SpeedEvil: ??? |
| 17:12.54 | SpeedEvil | Attachment of the radios |
| 17:14.28 | dijenerate | SpeedEvil: hmmmm... hadn't thought of that... I have always shunned away from USB attached radios, but I supposed that is normal on x86 today without any real performance losses |
| 17:18.57 | dijenerate | SpeedEvil: that is a very good idea... |
| 17:19.46 | SpeedEvil | There are some boards with minipcie slots - but I'm unsure there are any with many |
| 17:35.51 | Mirell | Mmm... |
| 17:43.02 | dijenerate | looks like I'll be using OpenSolaris for this job as well |
| 17:43.43 | dijenerate | scalable HA Ciuster for the server and routing |
| 17:57.31 | calculus | some of the boards from routerboard.com have many minipci (not e) |
| 17:58.43 | calculus | they have changed their site quite a bit since I last looked |
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| 19:52.09 | Zoiah | dijenerate: http://routerboard.com/pricelist.php?showProduct=55 |
| 19:52.19 | Zoiah | dijenerate: not x86 or fast, but 4xminiPCI. ;) |
| 19:52.43 | Zoiah | dijenerate: you should also look at the rest of their offerings. |
| 19:53.46 | dijenerate | Zoiah: yes I had considered those in the past but not being able to incorporate the apache server into the same box was a downer... we don't want to deploy too many devices on site and we are trying to stay completely wireless |
| 19:54.04 | Zoiah | You don't have to run their Mikrotik OS. |
| 19:54.35 | dijenerate | Zoiah: Mips hardware has it's limitations vs x86 |
| 19:54.50 | dijenerate | Zoiah: actually that's PPC isn't... |
| 19:54.53 | Zoiah | It is. |
| 19:55.19 | dijenerate | Zoiah: hmmm, it's a possible if the x86 solution doesn't look to work |
| 19:56.13 | dijenerate | Zoiah: but right now the x86 with OpenSolaris is getting full attention here and if testing is successful I'll submit that as the recommendation |
| 19:56.25 | Zoiah | Fair enough. |
| 19:56.36 | Zoiah | I like the Mikrotik formfactor though. |
| 19:56.45 | Zoiah | Which hardware are you looking at? |
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| 20:02.29 | dijenerate | Zoiah: Atom based MSI WindBox we are already using in the lab for testing our new platform... kinda hybrid browser based OS like ChromeOS but build on ubuntu at the moment |
| 20:03.52 | Zoiah | The Windbox reminds me of http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-24-openrd-client-openrd-client-board-with-enclosure.aspx |
| 20:04.35 | Zoiah | Not x86 either, but still need. Friend of mine got this to NAT a few ADSL2 lines. |
| 20:04.39 | Zoiah | need = neat |
| 20:09.31 | dijenerate | Zoiah: We're currently testing on this variant: http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/01/23/msi.windbox.official.intro/ but there is one with the nvidia ION platform that we'd love to get our hands on |
| 20:12.24 | Zoiah | Looks decent. |
| 20:17.07 | dijenerate | Zoiah: not bad... cheap, reliable and as low cost embedded boxes go, quite a decent amount of power for its size/price |
| 20:18.06 | Zoiah | How cheap? |
| 20:20.36 | dijenerate | Zoiah: netbook cheap |
| 20:22.14 | prpplague | lordy lordy |
| 20:22.24 | prpplague | has going non-stop today |
| 20:22.35 | prpplague | too much work |
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| 22:49.00 | wmat | prpplague: that's a good thing though, is it not? |
| 22:49.15 | prpplague | wmat: yea |
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