| 00:00.38 | RobotGuy | I can run the output from the breadboard supply (using a barrel plug) to the hub and power the Beagle from the hub. That should work nice. |
| 00:13.49 | prpplague | davidc__: robotics just doesn't float my boat so to speak |
| 00:14.50 | prpplague | Mirell: lordy lordy, i have a code issue i think and i've been trying to find it all day |
| 00:15.07 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Oh, I know that. :D It doesn't mean there is not a market to us robot folks though. There are more of us than you might think. :) |
| 00:15.10 | RobotGuy | grins |
| 00:15.39 | prpplague | RobotGuy: i was refering to davidc__ suggestion that i build something "cool" with the boards |
| 00:16.07 | RobotGuy | I know that. I was just kidding with you a bit because we've gone round and round about it in the past. :D |
| 00:16.19 | davidc__ | prpplague: or build some kinda cool UI thing - you don;t have to do it for fun; just to get views on hackaday + etc |
| 00:16.31 | davidc__ | seriously; you build cool stuff, but the only place I've ever seen your stuff mentioned is on #edev |
| 00:16.39 | RobotGuy | Raise TCT's profile a bit. :D |
| 00:17.02 | RobotGuy | SparkFun should pickup the Zippy, etc. |
| 00:17.46 | prpplague | davidc__: yea, TCT is generally the marketing side of things |
| 00:17.52 | prpplague | davidc__: marketing and sales |
| 00:18.15 | prpplague | RobotGuy: sparkfun wants to big of a cut |
| 00:18.52 | prpplague | although rusty probably will end up sell the lot to SFE soon if he can't move them quicker |
| 00:18.57 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Oh, that's too bad. Maybe just go with them just to raise the TCT profile. It could be really good for TCT. |
| 00:19.18 | davidc__ | prpplague: eh, I don't know the way your business is structured, but if I had to take a bet, I'd lay the blame on marketing, rather than product design. |
| 00:19.24 | prpplague | RobotGuy: i have no say over TCT's business arrangements |
| 00:19.47 | prpplague | davidc__: yea, TCT does the production, marketing and sales |
| 00:19.57 | RobotGuy | There is something to be said for moving more and taking a little less profit. It could work with SparkFun. Is there risk in trying it? |
| 00:19.57 | prpplague | davidc__: RAD Tech Labs does the design work |
| 00:20.04 | prpplague | RobotGuy: i have no say over TCT's business arrangements |
| 00:20.27 | RobotGuy | Yeah, probably only Rusty has say over that I am guessing. |
| 00:20.42 | prpplague | RobotGuy: i just want them to sell so TCT will keep paying me to design stuff |
| 00:22.30 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Well, maybe you need to bug Rusty a bit more. You design way cool stuff, IMHO, and people could benefit from these things. Too many companies of all sizes just want to squeeze every penny they can from every single sale. I've said for years the money is in volume, not necessary squeezing pennies. |
| 00:23.39 | RobotGuy | Heck, I still think Hammer is a good thing. It's just buildroot I don't like, and it doesn't seem to like me much either. ;) |
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| 00:30.39 | prpplague | jmm |
| 00:30.41 | prpplague | hmm |
| 00:30.51 | prpplague | can't figure out this isn't working |
| 00:34.35 | roxfan | is it a heisenbug? |
| 00:35.13 | prpplague | roxfan: seems so |
| 00:35.22 | prpplague | roxfan: think i actually just found it |
| 00:35.43 | roxfan | good |
| 00:36.11 | prpplague | looks like i'm missing an irq |
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| 00:46.17 | prpplague | roxfan: looks like i missed some data captured on my logic probe |
| 01:06.42 | chouimat|away | later, I'm tired and maybe I will be lucky and there will be something fun on tv |
| 01:13.41 | prpplague | chouimat|away: later |
| 01:14.00 | prpplague | chouimat|away: you don't have pay-per-pr0n on your cable service? |
| 01:14.19 | chouimat|away | prpplague: I use xhamster for that ;) |
| 01:14.27 | prpplague | hehe |
| 01:25.11 | Mirell | Hmm... |
| 02:07.24 | Mirell | Tempted to take my LED Cinema display to work, since I rarely use it at home |
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| 16:15.00 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:20.00 | Mirell | It is supposedly morning. |
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| 19:49.36 | Mirell | And now it is supposedly afternoon. |
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| 19:57.22 | Mirell | And now I skedaddle towards airportness. |
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| 20:20.39 | prpplague | wonders where Mirell is going |
| 20:25.09 | davidc__ | prpplague: your house. |
| 21:08.59 | wmat | this is cool: http://elinux.org/CELF_Open_Project_Proposal_2010 |
| 21:09.14 | prpplague | davidc__: not much to see at my house |
| 21:09.32 | davidc__ | prpplague: he's come to steal the secret hammer design files. |
| 21:09.40 | prpplague | hehe |
| 21:10.12 | prpplague | tries to decide if he needs to use a relay or an analog mux |
| 21:11.33 | prpplague | davidc__: you used any mux's with high speed differentials? |
| 21:12.13 | MonMotha | how high speed? |
| 21:12.21 | MonMotha | National has some nice stuff |
| 21:12.51 | prpplague | MonMotha: gigabit signals |
| 21:12.58 | prpplague | (not gigabit ethernet) |
| 21:13.15 | MonMotha | like LVDS? |
| 21:15.03 | prpplague | http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/application/gvif/overview/index.html |
| 21:15.46 | prpplague | easy solution is to use a relay, but i'd rather not use that if possible |
| 21:15.49 | roxfan | wmat: december 20? and they only now announce it? |
| 21:15.58 | roxfan | that's less than a month left |
| 21:16.20 | davidc__ | prpplague: pericom has some parts |
| 21:16.35 | MonMotha | prpplague: got an electrical spec? |
| 21:16.37 | davidc__ | prpplague: what ratio mux do you need? and what kinda isolation? |
| 21:16.44 | prpplague | davidc__: i was looking at some of TI's items |
| 21:16.53 | MonMotha | yeah, TI and National are probably your best bets |
| 21:18.17 | prpplague | basically just need 2xSPDT |
| 21:19.20 | davidc__ | prpplague: pericom has a cheap one designed for gige, but should work for whatever |
| 21:19.45 | prpplague | davidc__: easilly available from mouser/digikey? |
| 21:19.52 | davidc__ | yup, sec |
| 21:19.56 | MonMotha | ah yes, the Pericom parts |
| 21:19.58 | MonMotha | heard mixed things |
| 21:21.55 | davidc__ | I've never had any problem with their parts, never used em in too demanding an application though. |
| 21:21.59 | davidc__ | what have you heard MonMotha ? |
| 21:22.25 | MonMotha | davidc__: they are apparently a little more picky than the Nationa/TI stuff |
| 21:22.39 | davidc__ | as in; who they'll sell to? |
| 21:22.39 | MonMotha | though as long as you ar ein fact within the specs, you're ok |
| 21:22.48 | MonMotha | no, just the operational stuff |
| 21:22.53 | davidc__ | ah, gotcha |
| 21:23.13 | davidc__ | prpplague: nevermind on the pericom part; forgot that each channel is only 250mhz |
| 21:23.25 | prpplague | davidc__: ahh |
| 21:23.59 | MonMotha | the Pericom stuff is cheap, though |
| 21:24.08 | prpplague | davidc__: i'll probably go with a relay on the first cut |
| 21:26.22 | MonMotha | prpplague: I like how all the recent activity on that standard is DRM related |
| 21:26.27 | MonMotha | I guess it IS Sony |
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| 21:36.28 | roxfan | what standard? |
| 21:55.37 | prpplague | MonMotha: indeed |
| 21:55.48 | prpplague | roxfan: http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/application/gvif/overview/index.html |
| 21:56.15 | roxfan | interesting |
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| 22:02.21 | MonMotha | prpplague: done much with VME? |
| 22:03.03 | MonMotha | I have a VME backplane that I'm thinking of re-purposing for something, and I'm trying to figure out how fast I could expect to change masters of the bus assuming they all know what's going on ahead of time |
| 22:03.04 | prpplague | MonMotha: no but been reading about it |
| 22:03.12 | MonMotha | it's more of an electrical problem than anything |
| 22:04.18 | MonMotha | that and if I could reasonably clock the bus on this particular unit at 125MHz |
| 22:04.24 | MonMotha | might be a little high as it was probably only designed for like 50 |
| 22:04.41 | MonMotha | dunno what the parasitics look like |
| 22:05.45 | MonMotha | there are some tricks I can play if I can't turn it around that fast, though |
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