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| 01:24.46 | Mirell | Hmm.. |
| 01:24.56 | solar | evening |
| 01:31.22 | Mirell | 'lo |
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| 07:21.34 | Mirell | What the deuce is cocktail attire... |
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| 10:28.17 | Madsy | Hey PureSine |
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| 14:32.41 | prpplague | Mirell: got an xmas party to go to? |
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| 14:35.25 | SpeedEvil | http://tcpick.sourceforge.net/ |
| 14:35.26 | SpeedEvil | oops |
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| 14:39.35 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:43.46 | prpplague | kergoth: greetings |
| 14:45.48 | Madsy | hey prpplague |
| 14:45.58 | prpplague | Madsy: greetings |
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| 15:43.56 | chouimat | morning |
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| 16:10.07 | Mirell | prpplague: Ayup |
| 16:10.18 | prpplague | Mirell: lovely |
| 16:13.02 | Mirell | prpplague: Office Christmas party, at that. |
| 16:13.23 | chouimat | doesn't want to look for a job today |
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| 16:14.30 | chouimat | hi T0mW |
| 16:14.41 | T0mW | good morning |
| 16:15.03 | T0mW | chouimat: looks like it will be a white Christmas in Pennyslvania |
| 16:15.30 | chouimat | T0mW: |
| 16:15.43 | chouimat | I'm already tired of the snow ;) |
| 16:15.51 | T0mW | heh |
| 16:16.55 | T0mW | so far, the new heating system is working out fine. But, will get a real test tonite as the temp is supposed to fall down to around 12..16F. |
| 16:17.08 | chouimat | T0mW: I live on the last floor ... and all the neighbors I have below me are from Africa ... and it's not even -20C outside |
| 16:17.22 | T0mW | lol |
| 16:17.50 | chouimat | T0mW: I have 3 fans in this office |
| 16:18.05 | prpplague | T0mW: hey bud |
| 16:18.10 | T0mW | chouimat: open a window? |
| 16:18.16 | T0mW | prpplague: hi |
| 16:18.22 | prpplague | T0mW: long time no see |
| 16:18.28 | chouimat | T0mW: done |
| 16:24.41 | chouimat | Mirell: btw I managed to finish installing centos4.7 and gentoo in hercules |
| 16:24.57 | Mirell | chouimat: Rather than job hunting? :D |
| 16:25.20 | chouimat | Mirell: we never know it might help having a job ;) |
| 16:25.31 | prpplague | T0mW: man i've been spending way too much money building up my parts inventory |
| 16:25.31 | Mirell | ...you don't want those jobs. |
| 16:25.38 | chouimat | Mirell: I know |
| 16:26.11 | chouimat | Mirell: I was surprised how easy it was to install, and the performance are adequate |
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| 18:15.48 | wmat | prpplague: did you end up emailing TimB? |
| 18:23.00 | T0mW | can you look in /sys to find out how many serial ports (ttyS?) are installed? |
| 18:24.18 | prpplague | wmat: sorry not yet, been swamped |
| 18:24.44 | wmat | prpplague: no worries, and no rush |
| 18:24.46 | prpplague | T0mW: yea you should be able to see them there |
| 18:25.06 | T0mW | find /sys -type d -iname 'ttyS*' |
| 18:25.08 | T0mW | ? |
| 18:26.11 | prpplague | T0mW: hmm, i'm not if that would work |
| 18:26.23 | prpplague | T0mW: you can look under /sys/devices/platform/* |
| 18:26.32 | T0mW | no, that only tells me how many entries have been created in /dev, not active ones. |
| 18:27.22 | T0mW | heh, minicom -s , then keep trying ports until you exit when it attempts to connect to a non-existant one. |
| 18:27.26 | SpeedEvil | dmesg will tell you |
| 18:27.29 | SpeedEvil | or syslog |
| 18:27.43 | SpeedEvil | the serial driver says typically how many serial ports it knows of on boot |
| 18:28.01 | T0mW | yeah, but, I'm trying to tell a windows guy how to find out how many serial ports this linux machine has. |
| 18:28.06 | prpplague | T0mW: you purchase parts from digikey and/or mouser? |
| 18:28.14 | T0mW | Windows people cannot read log files. |
| 18:28.29 | T0mW | prpplague: digikey, much better search engine. |
| 18:28.51 | SpeedEvil | count the db-25s? |
| 18:29.08 | T0mW | prpplague: if you can accept no tracking number, ship via USPS Priority Mail, it is faster than UPS. |
| 18:29.13 | prpplague | T0mW: yea i like their search engine, but i can get from mouser cheaper on shipping since they are in texas |
| 18:29.27 | prpplague | T0mW: i get UPS ground from mouser in one day |
| 18:29.27 | T0mW | prpplague: go for it. |
| 18:29.43 | prpplague | T0mW: i was just curious who you used |
| 18:30.41 | T0mW | prpplague: mouser is geared towards the purchasing agent. It wasn't until recently that they added parametric data (PDF) lookups to their site and added the "In Stock" checkbox. |
| 18:30.56 | T0mW | Digikey is more engineer friendly. |
| 18:31.00 | prpplague | indeed |
| 18:31.19 | T0mW | prpplague: so, drill down with digikey and order via mouser? heh |
| 18:31.36 | prpplague | yea basically what i've been doing |
| 18:32.08 | T0mW | well, I can 'cat /proc/ioports | grep serial' and get a count of them... |
| 18:32.21 | T0mW | good enough. |
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| 18:42.08 | pingbat | hey all, can someone give me a hand with my LCD? |
| 18:42.12 | pingbat | please |
| 18:42.35 | SpeedEvil | ? |
| 18:42.36 | pingbat | I am trying to work out exactly what each of the interrupts the controller generates are |
| 18:43.09 | pingbat | there is a vsync interrupt which i have going but it seems to be running at 1.2kHz which seems wrong |
| 18:43.53 | pingbat | so what does start of vertical synchronization actually mean? |
| 18:44.14 | SpeedEvil | it means that is the start of a new frame |
| 18:44.16 | SpeedEvil | generally |
| 18:44.31 | SpeedEvil | this is a LCD controller for a graphical LCD?. |
| 18:44.34 | SpeedEvil | What size? |
| 18:44.38 | SpeedEvil | and what controller |
| 18:45.17 | pingbat | 240 by 320 |
| 18:45.29 | pingbat | it's built into a LPC2478 |
| 18:45.33 | pingbat | graphical |
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| 18:45.57 | pingbat | maybe i'm not clearing the interrupt properly.. |
| 18:46.50 | SpeedEvil | you generally have a vsync around 50Hz-60Hz |
| 18:47.03 | SpeedEvil | then a line sync about 320+10 times this or so |
| 18:47.11 | SpeedEvil | then a frame sync about 240+10 times that |
| 18:47.17 | SpeedEvil | err |
| 18:47.18 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 18:47.24 | SpeedEvil | s/frame sync/pixel clock/ |
| 18:47.45 | SpeedEvil | So vsync is 60hz, hsyync is 15khz or so, and pixel clock is a few MHz |
| 18:48.06 | pingbat | hmm |
| 18:48.12 | SpeedEvil | is it not showing an image? |
| 18:48.12 | pingbat | this is what I thought |
| 18:48.42 | pingbat | it is showing an image but the vsync triggersover and over |
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| 18:49.04 | SpeedEvil | what do you mean by 'vsync triggers' |
| 18:49.12 | pingbat | nothing after the interrupt enable runs |
| 18:49.29 | SpeedEvil | you don't usually need to enable any interrupts to make it carry on |
| 18:49.37 | SpeedEvil | in most lcd controllers I have seen |
| 18:49.58 | pingbat | the actual code after the interrupt enable line fails to execute |
| 18:50.51 | pingbat | just been kicked out |
| 18:50.51 | SpeedEvil | why are you using intererupts anyway? |
| 18:50.58 | pingbat | be back in 30min |
| 18:51.02 | SpeedEvil | wave |
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| 19:08.58 | pingbat | back |
| 19:09.16 | pingbat | using the interrupts to stop the screen shearing |
| 19:11.31 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 19:18.17 | pingbat | but it's all going wrong |
| 19:46.52 | pingbat | so i enabled the interrupt and then no code after that line in main executed |
| 19:47.19 | pingbat | so maybe the interrupt is not clearing |
| 19:47.43 | pingbat | and jumping back into the ISR as soon as it returns |
| 19:47.44 | pingbat | ? |
| 19:47.52 | pingbat | or does that not make sense? |
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| 20:18.25 | Mirell | Hmm... |
| 20:19.09 | davidc__ | pingbat: set LED at ISR enter, clear LED at ISR exit |
| 20:19.23 | davidc__ | that'll tell you if you're getting stuck in the ISR |
| 20:20.06 | SpeedEvil | sur eyou've not got level and edge triggered interrupts confused? |
| 20:20.09 | SpeedEvil | Or something |
| 20:20.19 | SpeedEvil | do you have to explicitly clear the interrupt? |
| 20:20.51 | pingbat | supposedly you do have to clear it |
| 20:22.46 | pingbat | i know that it's running at 1.2kHz |
| 20:22.50 | pingbat | which is wrong |
| 20:23.53 | pingbat | so it's running at 1.2kHz |
| 20:24.26 | pingbat | i can only assume it's dropping out and then jumping straight back in |
| 20:25.17 | SpeedEvil | that sounds way too slow for that to be the case |
| 20:33.25 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 20:33.29 | prpplague | is worn out |
| 20:35.09 | pingbat | umm, it's writing text to the lcd and doing a sprintf() |
| 20:35.42 | prpplague | davidc__: hehe i love using leds on highly embedded systems |
| 20:37.58 | pingbat | but still, 50k instructions is a lot |
| 20:39.33 | Mirell | Bleh. |
| 20:39.44 | Mirell | I really want the free food and drinks on Saturday, but I don't want to dress up. |
| 20:41.00 | prpplague | Mirell: you going to hire a *cough* escort for the party? |
| 20:46.56 | Mirell | prpplague: Er, no. But feel free to drop-ship one of your wife's cousins. |
| 20:47.12 | mnemoc | o_O |
| 20:47.39 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:55.48 | davidc__ | prpplague: I usually stuff at least 8 LEDS just for debugging purposes onto any embedded system |
| 20:55.56 | davidc__ | even when I have a full debugger + console |
| 20:56.13 | davidc__ | [and add a logic analyzer header on the same pins] |
| 20:56.32 | prpplague | yea |
| 20:58.34 | Madsy | Man.. the opcodes library in the GNU binutils is even worse than my disassembler code. |
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| 21:10.51 | prpplague | hmm, TI's website appears to be down |
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| 21:16.22 | Madsy | Perhaps it's hosted on a TI ;-) |
| 21:18.20 | SpeedEvil | wishes TI wouldn't do the annoying NDA thing with some parts. |
| 21:18.22 | SpeedEvil | But meh. |
| 21:18.29 | SpeedEvil | looks at his TI system. |
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| 21:22.17 | CosmicPenguin | https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/xwin/?p=xf86-video-msm.git;a=summary |
| 21:22.22 | CosmicPenguin | whistles innocently |
| 21:22.46 | prpplague | looks |
| 21:23.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: dandy |
| 21:24.32 | CosmicPenguin | yay me |
| 22:06.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok, double check my math here, 1 complete cycle is 4uS, so 1S/.000004uS = 250000Hz or 250kHz |
| 22:07.34 | prpplague | anyone? did i miss something? |
| 22:09.31 | mraddatz | has anyone experiences with fwl? |
| 22:10.02 | prpplague | mraddatz: there are a few folks here that have, just ask and see if someone responds |
| 22:10.53 | calculus | prpplague: why .000004uS in the denominator? |
| 22:12.26 | calculus | if you trust google: http://www.google.com/search?q=1%2F%284+microseconds%29+-%3E+khz |
| 22:12.29 | MonMotha | because he meant .000004s |
| 22:12.51 | prpplague | MonMotha: yea type |
| 22:12.54 | prpplague | typo |
| 22:13.06 | calculus | ok, then no units in the numerator either |
| 22:13.19 | calculus | otherwise it would be unitless |
| 22:13.32 | MonMotha | indeed |
| 22:13.34 | MonMotha | f=1/T |
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| 22:14.07 | prpplague | calculus: yea |
| 22:14.07 | calculus | yep, exactly what I asked google |
| 22:14.53 | prpplague | yea my issue is that the doc says it suppose to be 25MHz, but my measured freq is 250kHz |
| 22:19.34 | mraddatz | ok, simple problem. how to build dropbear natively with fwl on qemu and use this binary for a clean root-filesystem that doesn't contain a gcc toolchain? I guess if I would set NATIVE_TOOLCHAIN=none, I am not able to build dropbear natively on qemu. |
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| 22:47.35 | pingbat | if you assign constants in C do they default to unsigned int? |
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| 23:13.02 | MonMotha | pingbat: what do you mean? |
| 23:13.14 | pingbat | i = 1 |
| 23:13.34 | pingbat | or int i = 1 |
| 23:14.02 | MonMotha | oh, the default type of a constant used in a statement? |
| 23:14.08 | pingbat | yeah |
| 23:14.16 | MonMotha | IIRC, it gets promoted to signed int |
| 23:14.43 | MonMotha | but I don't have my copy of K&R handy |
| 23:14.46 | pingbat | i guess the compiler does some smart stuff though |
| 23:15.10 | MonMotha | if it doesn't fit in a signed int, I think it will make it unsigned or promote it to long |
| 23:15.44 | pingbat | ok, thanks |
| 23:16.16 | MonMotha | I know you can run into issues if you need to multiply two constants for some reason in a statement. They'll both default to int (if they fit), but the result may not fit in an int, and so it'll overflow. |
| 23:16.41 | MonMotha | you can explicitly type the constant if you want by doing e.g "15UL" for an unsigned long or "(unsigned long)15" |
| 23:16.49 | MonMotha | that is, typecasts do work on constants |
| 23:17.13 | pingbat | that's useful to know |
| 23:17.47 | MonMotha | I do it all the time on AVR where int is only 16 bits, but I need to calculate an intermediate result of constants that won't fit. Especially common for oscillator scaler values. |
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| 23:20.11 | prpplague | holy freakin cow |
| 23:20.21 | prpplague | sorphin: were your ears burnin? |
| 23:21.13 | MonMotha | pingbat: gcc appears to warn if the constant you specify doesn't fit in the type it implicitly assigned to it, but it won't necessarily warn if an intermediate result gets truncated |
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| 23:24.46 | sorphin | lol @ prpplague |
| 23:24.48 | sorphin | no |
| 23:25.05 | sorphin | i'm messing w/ an omap device now, and had been talking to my friend [mbm] so i figured i'd check in |
| 23:25.20 | prpplague | sorphin: i just told my wife last night that i'd not seen you on the channel in ages |
| 23:25.27 | sorphin | ah |
| 23:25.27 | prpplague | sorphin: which omap device? |
| 23:25.35 | sorphin | Motorola Droid |
| 23:25.39 | prpplague | ahh |
| 23:26.00 | prpplague | sorphin: alot more OMAP3 talk/chat in either #beagle or #linux-omap |
| 23:26.08 | sorphin | yeah |
| 23:26.09 | sorphin | i know |
| 23:26.10 | prpplague | sorphin: lots of TIers over in #linux-omap |
| 23:26.16 | sorphin | i just meant becuase i was on irc anyways |
| 23:26.33 | sorphin | I'm sure if i really needed knowledge, I could ping tim.. he be on my facebook |
| 23:26.33 | sorphin | lol |
| 23:26.36 | MonMotha | Motorola Droid is OMAP based? |
| 23:26.39 | sorphin | Yes |
| 23:26.46 | prpplague | sorphin: Tim Riker? |
| 23:26.54 | MonMotha | how the heck did they convince Quallcomm to sell them the darned radios without their crappy CPUs? |
| 23:27.06 | sorphin | Processor: ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l) |
| 23:27.10 | sorphin | Linux localhost 2.6.29-omap1-g0dd7e0b #511 PREEMPT Wed Nov 25 15:22:28 PST 2009 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 23:27.21 | sorphin | prpplague: yes, him |
| 23:27.38 | prpplague | sorphin: Tim has been at TI or doing embedded dev in years |
| 23:27.43 | prpplague | hasn't |
| 23:27.55 | sorphin | yeah, but i ccoulda sworned he had at least touched OMAP |
| 23:28.03 | prpplague | sorphin: OMAP1 |
| 23:28.08 | sorphin | meh |
| 23:28.12 | prpplague | sorphin: giant differences |
| 23:28.12 | sorphin | for what i'd need |
| 23:28.14 | sorphin | it's enough |
| 23:28.14 | MonMotha | can one find an unlocked Droid, or has Verizon got an exclusive deal with them? |
| 23:28.15 | sorphin | lol |
| 23:28.23 | sorphin | there's a GSM droid |
| 23:28.26 | sorphin | called Milestone |
| 23:28.34 | MonMotha | I still need CDMA2000 |
| 23:28.41 | sorphin | VZW has exclusive |
| 23:28.42 | MonMotha | it can be CID locked...if it's for Sprint |
| 23:28.50 | MonMotha | yep, that's what I figured |
| 23:28.59 | MonMotha | back to porting Android to the HTC Rhodium, I guess |
| 23:29.01 | sorphin | is dumping the iphone |
| 23:29.21 | MonMotha | which is unfortunate since it has the crappy Quallcomm processor |
| 23:29.23 | sorphin | nod |
| 23:29.35 | MonMotha | otherwise a very good phone |
| 23:29.57 | prpplague | MonMotha: hehe, CosmicPenguin is going to get offended if you keep bad mouthing quallcomm |
| 23:30.10 | sorphin | bah |
| 23:30.15 | MonMotha | Their radios are fine. I'm just not fond of that CPU that everybody uses. |
| 23:30.15 | sorphin | F qualcomm |
| 23:30.19 | sorphin | lol |
| 23:30.43 | sorphin | prpplague: so what're you doing these days? |
| 23:31.04 | prpplague | sorphin: opened my own consulting gig a back in august |
| 23:31.25 | prpplague | sorphin: AML finally has imploded and laid off virtually the entire staff |
| 23:31.25 | sorphin | prpplague: I'm also going to be getting a hold of some SunSpots (the Sun microsystem ARM toy, if i recall it's arm based) |
| 23:31.30 | sorphin | ah |
| 23:31.45 | sorphin | your DSL indicates your in richardson now? |
| 23:32.04 | prpplague | no still in euless |
| 23:32.14 | prpplague | i have an office i rent |
| 23:32.20 | sorphin | ah |
| 23:32.22 | prpplague | just a few blocks from the house |
| 23:32.40 | sorphin | weird |
| 23:34.08 | sorphin | heads home |
| 23:34.16 | prpplague | sorphin: good seeing around |
| 23:34.21 | prpplague | sorphin: drop by more often |
| 23:34.25 | prpplague | heads home too |
| 23:37.26 | pingbat | i mentioned this earlier |
| 23:37.45 | *** join/#edev MonMotha (n=monmotha@cpe-65-29-71-209.indy.res.rr.com) |
| 23:37.46 | pingbat | but i have 2 interrupts |
| 23:38.13 | pingbat | p2 and p6 |
| 23:38.31 | pingbat | if p6 starts first, p2 never runs |
| 23:38.48 | pingbat | if p2 starts first they both work |
| 23:39.04 | pingbat | p2 is higher priority than p6 |
| 23:39.52 | pingbat | by starts i mean 'is enabled' |
| 23:41.20 | *** join/#edev HopsNBarley (n=hops@nslu2-linux/HopsNBarley) |
| 23:44.21 | pingbat | i hate debugging |
| 23:46.58 | HopsNBarley | anybody know how to get the CE dev environment set up? i can't even get the VS2005 trial to install :( |
| 23:49.25 | calculus | sunspots are cute devices... I wish they weren't so expensive, a little out the range of hobbyists |