IRC log for #edev on 20091214

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02:50.54rektidelooking for pressure sensors to make a keyboard with
02:51.01rektidesuggestions?
02:52.52SpeedEvila musical or typing one
02:58.57rektideboth hopefully, although in different products
02:59.00rektidedifferent creations
02:59.36rektidei'd like a hex matrix of sensors, some kind of plastic stretching cover, and data interpolation to try to do velocity / aftertouch / pressure / note hold &c
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15:56.23prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hey bud
15:57.54CosmicPenguinHiya
15:59.21chouimatmorning
15:59.44kergothmorning guys
16:00.00prpplaguegreetings earthlings
16:00.11chouimatnot again ... it's the 3rd car crash this morning
16:00.22prpplagueis behind on his project ....again
16:01.34Mirellprpplague: Congatundulations!
16:02.29prpplagueMirell: thanks
16:02.41prpplagueMirell: i can always count on your for encouragement
16:03.36prpplaguethe display i'm working on isn't playing nice
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16:26.26MirellHeh
16:36.16prpplagueargh i can't seem to get the porches setup on the display
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17:22.14prpplagueho ho hum
17:22.24prpplagueis making no progress on this display :(
17:33.40Mirellprpplague: I sowwy.
17:33.58prpplaguehehe
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17:50.50prpplaguewell @#$@#$
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18:45.51Mirell?
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18:56.57prpplagueMirell: just getting frustrated with this display
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19:00.05adbhi, it is here i may report an issues with buidroot ?
19:01.34prpplagueadb: you can discuss buildroot here, but there is an online bug/patch submission page
19:01.48Mirelladb: Also, #uclibc is more geared toward buildroot
19:02.22adbok . i see thanks you both
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20:43.12MirellAhhh hell.
20:43.19MirellI think I'm coming down with something
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21:27.26prpplagueMirell: since you live in austin it is probably "leftitus"
21:27.46CosmicPenguin...
21:28.08prpplaguejokes with Mirell
21:28.24CosmicPenguinTo invoke a sterotype, that was a very "Texas" thing to say... :)
21:28.29MirellAs a South Paw, I take offense to that.
21:31.21prpplaguehehe
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21:38.12prpplaguewell @#$@#, i just can't seem to get these porches correct
21:46.14MirellThey're pretty simple.
21:46.25MirellYou just put a small railing around, a rocking chair, maybe some hanging plants.
21:46.37prpplagueindeed
21:50.39Mirellprpplague: What were you actually referring to? :D
21:50.52prpplagueMirell: lcd timmings
21:51.13prpplagueMirell: you have horizontal and vertical paddings on the front and back of the data
21:51.19prpplagueMirell: refered to as porches
21:51.28prpplagueMirell: front porch and back porch
21:52.14MirellAhh
21:52.21MonMothaprpplague: your module must be picky
21:52.27MonMothamany don't really care much
21:52.42prpplagueMonMotha: yes this is a reverse engineered item
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22:20.45prpplagueMonMotha: btw, there is a new channel ##AltiumDesigner
22:20.51MonMothaoh?
22:20.57MonMothawhen did that show up?
22:22.20prpplagueover the weekend
22:22.25prpplaguePureSine started it
22:22.53MonMothahuh, ok
22:22.57MonMothaany reason?
22:23.33PureSinewhat you mean ?
22:23.50MonMothaI was just curious as to why that channel just suddenly showed up now
22:24.00MonMothayou just start using Designer or something?
22:24.15prpplagueMonMotha: i've got the 30 day evay
22:24.16prpplagueeval
22:24.29MonMothaheh, that's all I have right now :)
22:24.36PureSineno I have 5+ experience on it :)
22:24.41prpplagueMonMotha: oh i thought you purchased it?
22:24.48MonMothano, work offered to
22:24.51MonMothabut they have not done so yet
22:24.54prpplagueahh
22:26.10MonMothaprpplague: know any CHEAP wifi modules?
22:26.30MonMothadoesn't have to be fancy (telnet to TCP port to receive data chucked in on serial is sufficient)
22:26.32MonMothajust needs to be cheap
22:26.48MonMothaand available in qty. 1
22:27.27prpplagueMonMotha: quantify cheap?
22:27.36MonMotha~$20-30
22:27.51MonMothaI'm OK with busting open a consumer device as long as minimal software hackery is required
22:28.03prpplagueusb is about the only thing you are going to get at that price
22:28.15MonMothawould be REALLY nice if I could get TX cooperation with an 802.15.4 module, but I'm not holding my breath
22:28.35MonMothayeah, and the USB stuff generally only works on x86
22:28.42MonMothathis thing won't even be likely to run Linux
22:28.54MonMothaand certainly isn't going to be x86
22:29.01MonMothaI have debated repurposing a WRT54GL
22:29.09MonMothajust need a serial port for my 802.15.4 module
22:30.03prpplagueMonMotha: there are some good serial wifi modules, put they are pricey, around $100
22:30.08MonMotharight
22:30.12MonMothaSparkfun has one that looks OK for $70
22:31.27MonMothaI'd go the hacked wifi router route, but I don't feel comfortable that I can get such hackery done in the timeframe allotted for this project
22:32.13MonMothaother thought I had was doing wired ethernet and cramming one of those ethernet to wireless bridge devices in the box
22:33.37roxfanhttp://www.rovingnetworks.com/pricing.php $49
22:33.41roxfan$33 http://www.futureelectronics.com/en/technologies/semiconductors/wireless-rf/rf-modules-solutions/proprietary/Pages/2456572-ZG2101MC.aspx
22:33.56MonMotharoxfan: yeah, the roving networks module is what sparkfun has
22:34.20MonMothaI do need industrial temp, too
22:35.03MonMothasparkfun marks it up $10
22:37.36roxfanhmm http://global.ebay.com/search?Query=wifi+module
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22:44.20roxfanMonMotha, seen this? http://global.ebay.com/search?Query=wifi+module
22:44.48roxfannot sure if those are easy to interface, but they definitely look cheap
22:46.05MonMothathose are PCIe
22:46.14MonMothawhich I definitely don't have on my little tiny micro :)
22:46.48roxfanthey might have test pins for i2c or whatnot...
22:47.14MonMothanope
22:47.17MonMothaI've worked with those things :)
22:47.31MonMothathere is SMBus on the connector, but nobody uses it.  The Wifi interface is almost always PCIe, but sometimes USB.
22:47.36MonMothaand of course, it's totally undocumented
22:49.47roxfani wonder what's the interface for the DS module
22:50.23MonMothaSDIO is common
22:50.31MonMothaMarvell likes to use that
22:50.48roxfanthat one's mitsumi
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23:00.40roxfanhm, apparently the original DS module used a broadcom chip + SiGe front end
23:00.51roxfanin ds lite it's only one chip...
23:01.33MonMothayes, they're starting to integrate the RF+baseband into one chip
23:01.56MonMothaI'm surprised that didn't happen sooner given the prevalence of bluetooth and 802.15.4 devices built that way
23:10.27roxfanhttp://forum.wiibrew.org/read.php?9,40,40 seems to say it's sdio
23:12.36MonMothanot surprising
23:23.29prpplaguegrumbles
23:23.40prpplaguei cant seem to get the timming on this lcd correct
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23:46.00roxfanMonMotha: there are also cheap usb sticks that can probably be driven from an mcu
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23:54.08SpeedEvilnot very easily generally
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