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| 03:33.15 | MonMotha | ~seen t0mw |
| 03:33.17 | purl | t0mw <n=Tom@24.238.37.43.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 11d 4h 34m 58s ago, saying: ':)'. |
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| 03:33.18 | purl | MonMotha: i haven't seen 't0mw_' |
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| 15:35.27 | prpplague | MonMotha: hey bud |
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| 16:50.33 | prpplague | lordy there are alot of people on the channel idle that i have no clue who they are |
| 16:50.53 | prpplague | remembers the good ol' days of #edev when he knew everyone in the channel |
| 16:55.56 | ymorin | @prpplague: Yes, first time here. Am the maintainer fro crosstool-NG. |
| 16:56.27 | ymorin | @prpplague: Waiting to see how people behave. Waiting for a question I may answer... |
| 16:58.03 | SpeedEvil | is still beating on various bits of the n900. |
| 16:58.22 | SpeedEvil | Not doing any 'real' development. |
| 17:12.44 | chouimat | morning |
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| 17:35.20 | calculus | and I came for the free food |
| 17:36.12 | chouimat | I'm just here for the groupies |
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| 17:54.37 | MonMotha | prpplague: hello |
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| 18:17.25 | m4t | quick question. i got a cpu card with a chip labeled 'VR5500'. yet, got into PMON, and it's identified as a 133mhz 5432. which should i trust? |
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| 18:18.08 | ymorin | Label on the chip never lies. |
| 18:18.18 | m4t | it's a fake :D |
| 18:19.01 | m4t | D30550F2-300 |
| 18:19.07 | m4t | sounds like a 300mhz vr5500 eh |
| 18:20.15 | m4t | 5432 seems qfp. this is bga |
| 18:20.19 | ymorin | Most probably your pmon was 'ported' from a previous board, and they /forgot/ to update the char*. |
| 18:21.03 | m4t | yup |
| 18:21.16 | ymorin | Or your board/CPU uses an already existing BoardID/CPUID. |
| 18:21.24 | MonMotha | label on the chip rarely lies |
| 18:21.51 | ymorin | Yes, I'd trust label on chip (almost) blindly. |
| 18:21.52 | MonMotha | and reused IDs are common with out of tree ports. People often just use the next available ID which will of course be used pretty soon by whatever gets merged in to mainline. |
| 18:22.19 | ymorin | Yes, happens all the time |
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| 22:14.52 | chris_debian | Hi, all! I'm a user and am new to all the firmware dev stuff. I discovered the firmware tool when I was trying a SuSe dvd. From what I can see, the tool seems to be developed by Intel. Does anyone know whether it's open-source (GPL, maybe)? I'm considering submitting some results from tests I have run, but don't want to do so if it will only benefit friends of Intel. |
| 22:18.22 | chris_debian | Ok, I'll try a different way...anyone know the best way for me to use the captured test data, to benefit the maximum number of people, given that I can't write device drivers? |
| 22:19.15 | SpeedEvil | Never head of it - you might lurk a bit - now tends to be a quiet time. |
| 22:19.28 | SpeedEvil | esp with the satan thing. |
| 22:20.28 | chris_debian | SpeedEvil: Was the last comment for me? |
| 22:20.42 | chris_debian | I was talking about this: http://linuxfirmwarekit.org/index.php |
| 22:21.14 | SpeedEvil | santa thing |
| 22:21.15 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 22:22.04 | chris_debian | Cool, thanks. Just wondered whether it is possible to use a firmware diagnostic tool as part of popular distros, to submit results for components that don't work properly. |
| 22:22.41 | chris_debian | The user could be told that they can submit an anonymous report if they would like to benefit the community. |
| 22:23.50 | SpeedEvil | It's possible - byt it's never really happened generally for several reasons. |
| 22:23.53 | chris_debian | I guess I'm wondering whether something similar to the tests found here http://linuxfirmwarekit.org/index.php are available as part of most distro's software repository |
| 22:23.57 | chris_debian | Ok |
| 22:24.30 | chris_debian | I remember seeing something somewhere that if people have devices they need drivers for, then they should say. I'll Google for that. |
| 22:25.02 | SpeedEvil | I genrally start out with 'productname' linux kernel driver on google |
| 22:25.17 | SpeedEvil | then proceed to usb/PCI/... IDs if no results |
| 22:25.55 | SpeedEvil | so lsusb, get the vendor and product ID codes - which uniquely identify a product - which may have several marketing names. Then google vendorID productID linux kernel |
| 22:27.49 | chris_debian | Many thanks, I'll give that a try. |
| 22:28.08 | chris_debian | Is it possible to submit firmware 'failure' reports anywhere, do you know? |
| 22:28.25 | SpeedEvil | What do you mean by firmware? |
| 22:28.58 | chris_debian | I ran some tests using software from here: http://linuxfirmwarekit.org/index.php |
| 22:29.34 | chris_debian | It examines your hardware and sees whether a 'given' Linux kernel can work properly with all of it. I had some failures. |
| 22:30.08 | SpeedEvil | Sorry - net problems ATM - can't get to that site. |
| 22:31.32 | chris_debian | Ok. This is what it's all about (briefly): "The Linux-ready Firmware Developer Kit is a tool to test how well Linux works together with the firmware (BIOS or EFI) of your machine." |
| 22:34.29 | chris_debian | This could be useful: http://hardware4linux.info/ |
| 22:34.43 | chris_debian | Thanks for your help, I'm probably getting in the way of real traffic. |
| 22:38.21 | MonMotha | yes |
| 22:38.25 | MonMotha | doh |
| 22:38.26 | MonMotha | wrong window |
| 22:38.45 | chris_debian | ? Sorry |
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| 22:45.37 | MonMotha | that "yes" was not intended for this window |
| 22:47.54 | chris_debian | MonMotha: Cool! Thanks. |
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| 23:19.35 | Redhatter | chris_debian: Not much "traffic" to get in the way of actually. ;-) |
| 23:21.13 | chris_debian | :-) Looks that way. I think the 54 people must just be 'hanging-out'. |
| 23:21.30 | MonMotha | there's not usually a ton of traffic in here, no |
| 23:32.03 | Redhatter | It's ... bursty... |
| 23:32.17 | Redhatter | At the moment there's some traffic ... otherwise it's mostly quiet. |