| 00:00.26 | prpplague^2 | thats pretty heavy work for a small embedded system when doing it via web pages |
| 00:01.58 | ercani | hmm |
| 00:02.10 | ercani | ok |
| 00:02.15 | ercani | thnks |
| 00:03.35 | prpplague^2 | ercani it all depends on the number of clients, and how many other things are going on at the same time |
| 00:04.22 | prpplague^2 | ercani might be best if the gps info was uploaded to a secondary server on a regular time frame, and the info presented there |
| 00:04.54 | ercani | secondary server |
| 00:04.56 | ercani | ? |
| 00:10.44 | SpeedEvil | ercani: What are you trying to do - it sounds like there are probably better ways. |
| 00:11.36 | SpeedEvil | ercani: for example, openlayers is a JS framework for overlaying stuff on maps. If you simply want a moving marker on the map, you serve up the position of the marker, and have the clients go and get teh map data from google or openstreetmap |
| 00:11.36 | ercani | users will connect to server and leave the gps sentences |
| 00:11.56 | ercani | yes like that |
| 00:12.00 | SpeedEvil | you mean read the servers current positioon? |
| 00:12.25 | SpeedEvil | Or send their position to the server. |
| 00:12.26 | ercani | users will send gps data to server |
| 00:12.37 | SpeedEvil | What do you want to end up with the display to the user looking like. |
| 00:12.56 | ercani | then display the user's position on the map |
| 00:12.56 | SpeedEvil | And is this for a 1km^2 area, or global |
| 00:13.14 | ercani | global |
| 00:13.15 | SpeedEvil | Why are you using a server at all? |
| 00:13.29 | SpeedEvil | And not simply having the clients directly fetch hte map from google |
| 00:13.34 | SpeedEvil | or openstreetmaps |
| 00:13.59 | SpeedEvil | and place their position on it. |
| 00:14.26 | ercani | you mean no need a server ?? |
| 00:14.37 | SpeedEvil | yes, I don't see why you need one. |
| 00:14.43 | SpeedEvil | It doesn't do anything for you. |
| 00:15.18 | ercani | what can I do ? |
| 00:16.24 | SpeedEvil | ercani: openlayers and some local software to go gps->position will do it. Ask over on #openstreetmaps over on irc.oftc.net - sorry afk in a moment. |
| 00:16.30 | SpeedEvil | Also look at openlayers |
| 00:17.33 | ercani | ok |
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| 00:25.52 | prpplague^2 | MonMotha hey bud |
| 00:26.01 | prpplague^2 | MonMotha haven't seen you around much lately |
| 00:26.18 | prpplague^2 | MonMotha working? or been at the nudie bar? |
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| 03:51.16 | MonMotha | prpplague^2: working and getting a house ready for sale |
| 04:00.41 | ds2 | hey MonMotha |
| 04:00.48 | ds2 | found a solution to the games? |
| 04:01.09 | Mirell | Hmm... |
| 04:01.20 | Mirell | needs to find a way to get calendaring working with mutt+Exchange |
| 04:14.53 | MonMotha | ds2: well, they're not in the house, anymore |
| 04:21.03 | ds2 | oh :( |
| 04:32.02 | MonMotha | ds2: they're at various places. Most are in friends' places. |
| 04:32.16 | MonMotha | I actually close on the sale tomorrow, so they had to go someplace |
| 04:35.30 | ds2 | MonMotha: oh... thought you meant you sold them to random people... where are you moving to? |
| 04:56.58 | MonMotha | Indianapolis area |
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| 11:53.54 | ercani | hi |
| 11:54.10 | ercani | wish you happy new year |
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| 21:16.56 | prpplague | if anyone is interested i have a beagleboard revC3 + Trainer + flyswatter kit for sale $225.00 |
| 21:19.41 | chouimat | hmmmm |
| 22:10.54 | prpplague | i guess everyone spent too much money on xmas |
| 22:11.10 | prpplague | i figured with everyone wanting beagle boards someone would jump on that |
| 22:12.19 | Mirell | Jump! |
| 22:12.21 | Mirell | Jump on it! |
| 22:12.46 | Mirell | http://frodojumponit.ytmnd.com/ |
| 22:13.04 | prpplague | looks |
| 22:15.30 | prpplague | Mirell: cute |
| 22:15.40 | prpplague | Mirell: i have that version of LotR on dvd |
| 22:15.59 | Mirell | Dear God Man. |
| 22:16.00 | Mirell | Why. |
| 22:16.56 | Mirell | Were you thinking, "Oh, this will be fun like the Star Wars Holiday Special bad sort of way", not realizing that the Star Wars Holiday Special is bad in the I-Want-To-Kill-Myself sort of way? |
| 22:17.13 | prpplague | Mirell: just nostalgic since it was the version i saw as a kid |
| 22:17.25 | Mirell | Ahh |
| 22:17.32 | prpplague | Mirell: i have all the versions |
| 22:17.38 | prpplague | Mirell: plus the hobbit |
| 22:18.01 | Mirell | What headphones should I get |
| 22:19.03 | prpplague | Mirell: the "SAW" ones that have spikes attached to them |
| 22:19.40 | prpplague | Mirell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw |
| 22:23.02 | Mirell | Heh |
| 22:23.11 | Mirell | I was thinking http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDR7506-Professional-Diaphragm-Headphone/dp/B000AJIF4E/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header |
| 22:23.21 | prpplague | looks |
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| 22:28.32 | prpplague | Mirell: those look pretty dandy |
| 22:30.59 | Mirell | Yah, was looking to get them for work |
| 22:31.51 | Mirell | Since earbuds don't work nicely for all-day usage. |
| 22:33.00 | prpplague | indeed |
| 22:33.09 | prpplague | Mirell: those are simliar to what i used when i was in barbados |
| 22:33.27 | Mirell | DJ Purple Plague here to rock YOUR NIGHT |
| 22:34.02 | prpplague | Mirell: some of the folks in the offices around me were playing soca and calypso all the time so i ended up getting some headphones |
| 22:35.10 | prpplague | Mirell: i don't mind soca, just not when i'm trying to code |
| 22:35.10 | Mirell | I'll never understand why businesses just don't do mini-offices. |
| 22:35.14 | Mirell | Especially the large corporations. |
| 22:35.19 | prpplague | didn't get a whole lot of work done today |
| 22:35.36 | prpplague | trying to scrounge up more contract work |
| 22:35.40 | Mirell | Mmm. |
| 22:37.40 | prpplague | looks like a bunch of companies over in richardson are hiring, just don't like the idea of the commute over there |
| 22:41.06 | Mirell | Turn in my notice of intent to vacate in the other day |
| 22:41.12 | Mirell | Now need to find a place closer to work |
| 22:43.03 | prpplague | hmm, AMX is looking for some omap devrs |
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| 23:28.55 | prpplague | ~seen landley |
| 23:28.57 | purl | landley <n=landley@cpe-66-68-109-179.austin.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 11d 19h 2m 46s ago, saying: 'Decamping to coffee shop...'. |
| 23:32.41 | Mirell | Yep... |
| 23:32.57 | prpplague | Mirell fun fun fun |
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| 23:37.01 | ds2 | I am surprised it is not gone |
| 23:37.10 | Mirell | It? |
| 23:37.31 | ds2 | *It == prpplague.(beagle board combo); |
| 23:38.34 | Mirell | Ah |
| 23:38.48 | Mirell | Well, stop sticking 'em in pointers. |
| 23:38.54 | ds2 | :D |
| 23:39.12 | ds2 | 8 more hours til this year is over! |
| 23:39.47 | SpeedEvil | sighs, and wishes datasheets for omap stuff were available. |
| 23:40.01 | ds2 | SpeedEvil: which DS do you need? |
| 23:40.24 | SpeedEvil | OMAP3430 |
| 23:40.30 | SpeedEvil | N900 |
| 23:40.42 | ds2 | SpeedEvil: use the OMAP3530 datasheet |
| 23:40.48 | ds2 | it is the same at the moment |
| 23:40.57 | SpeedEvil | it's one of the ones that the page says 'this part is available to people with heaps of money over 84 feet tall only' |
| 23:40.58 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 23:41.17 | ds2 | nah... just 10ft tall ;) |
| 23:41.34 | ds2 | I can personally assure you they are the same at the moment |
| 23:41.40 | SpeedEvil | Many thanks! |
| 23:42.18 | SpeedEvil | I assume that doesn't fully document the DSP though. Oh well - it's not like I'm actually going to be using it. |
| 23:42.32 | SpeedEvil | Currently trying to work out if USB2 host mode is plausible on the n900 |
| 23:43.44 | SpeedEvil | I guess I need to dig properly around the TI site. |
| 23:43.49 | ds2 | *nod* |
| 23:43.55 | ds2 | USB2 is MUSB, AFAIK |
| 23:44.05 | ds2 | your answer will lie with the TWL4030 |
| 23:44.23 | ds2 | for that use the TPS equiv datasheet |
| 23:44.47 | SpeedEvil | A casual reading of the platform code revealed no answers other than there was consideration of an OTG mode at one point. |
| 23:45.15 | ds2 | from my memory, the code todo it is not implemented yet |
| 23:45.38 | SpeedEvil | yes, that seemed to be a possibility. |
| 23:45.48 | ds2 | you will need to convince the 4030 to act as a host. Question here is how is the VBUS input on the 4030 ired |
| 23:45.50 | ds2 | wired |
| 23:46.04 | SpeedEvil | I need to properly read it and work out how it works for read and how it's setup at the moment. |
| 23:46.06 | SpeedEvil | yeah. |
| 23:46.19 | SpeedEvil | If it will object to no vbus for some reason. |
| 23:46.21 | ds2 | it isn't setup unless someone createdpatches for it |
| 23:46.28 | ds2 | no vbus is fine |
| 23:46.31 | SpeedEvil | I don't care about external power of course |
| 23:46.41 | ds2 | in host mode, it can act as a charge pump |
| 23:46.53 | SpeedEvil | Odd. |
| 23:46.54 | ds2 | if vbus is grounded, you can risk trigger the overcurrent |
| 23:47.17 | SpeedEvil | There was a driver for some other device with a charge pump for vbus in the tree (but not enabled) |
| 23:47.23 | ds2 | the 4030, IIRC, is talked to via I2C |
| 23:47.36 | ds2 | *nod* the newer code breaks it out... |
| 23:47.50 | SpeedEvil | And I also need to try and find out if the USB/I2c/... busses are broken out onto pads. |
| 23:48.01 | SpeedEvil | there are ~14 pads on the bottom. |
| 23:48.03 | ds2 | note that in host mode,there are some MUSB errata you need to choke down |
| 23:48.24 | ds2 | there are 14 now? heh...it used to be 4 on the N8xx, IIRC |
| 23:48.48 | ds2 | those MUSB errata are partially the reason for the noise on the bb list |
| 23:49.23 | *** join/#edev ercani (n=ac@78.185.39.9) |
| 23:49.30 | ercani | hi |
| 23:49.31 | SpeedEvil | Fundamentally - does the twl* do device and host mode on the same two pins - so if it's connected, it should in principle be possible to get it to work somehow? |
| 23:49.46 | ds2 | yes |
| 23:49.57 | ds2 | the 4030 is a power manager/audio codec/USB phy |
| 23:50.25 | ds2 | it suppose OTG natively(hence the built in charge pump for 100mA 5V given 3.3V or better input) |
| 23:50.29 | SpeedEvil | I noticed pcb pic on the nokia FCC submission. |
| 23:50.37 | SpeedEvil | It's _EMPTY_ |
| 23:50.46 | SpeedEvil | Compared to - say - the neo1973 |
| 23:50.48 | ds2 | there is even a switch to feed 5V from VBUS back to the power rails |
| 23:50.54 | ds2 | heheh |
| 23:51.04 | SpeedEvil | Integration has gone insane. |
| 23:51.23 | ds2 | not really..... the omap stuff is pretty straightfoward |
| 23:51.44 | SpeedEvil | I mean - insane in a good way. |
| 23:51.48 | ds2 | oh |
| 23:51.52 | SpeedEvil | FMTX with 2 external parts |
| 23:51.56 | SpeedEvil | ... |
| 23:52.02 | ds2 | *heart* POP |
| 23:52.44 | ds2 | I suspect it will be a 4-10 line change to get hostmode going |
| 23:52.49 | SpeedEvil | Many thanks for the help - saved me lots of digging. |
| 23:52.57 | SpeedEvil | yeah - but finding the lines :) |
| 23:53.00 | ds2 | but I have no money to source hw to verify |
| 23:53.15 | ds2 | I have a good idea where it should be.... there is a lot of code not implemented for the 4030 that should be |
| 23:53.41 | SpeedEvil | I afforded my n900 partially by a diet, and planning cheap tasty low-calorie meals, not grazing. |
| 23:53.55 | SpeedEvil | Which has had the benefit that I'm also down 12Kg. |
| 23:53.59 | ds2 | doing that already to survive :( |
| 23:54.03 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 23:54.14 | ds2 | I'll just wait til it gets down to N800 price level |
| 23:54.32 | SpeedEvil | Shame the dev program is somewhat broken and arbitrary. |
| 23:55.26 | ds2 | anyways.... back to my holiday guests... |
| 23:55.29 | SpeedEvil | Anyway - gotta go - wave! |