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14:20.43lkjlkjanyone know how to change the size of the qemu drive for firmware?
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14:25.30sjhillhey prpplague
14:25.37prpplaguesjhill: hey bud
14:25.44prpplaguesjhill: what's cookin today?
14:25.50sjhillwaiting for the rest of my parts to arrive for the cricut
14:26.10sjhillgot the DLP USB modules
14:26.20prpplaguedandy
14:26.31sjhilli bought a dual power supply kit
14:26.43sjhilli figured it would be more fun to actually build my power supply :)
14:27.29prpplagueindeed
14:31.28lkjlkjsorry. what's the guys name that created impactlinux?
14:31.34lkjlkjhis handle, rather?
14:31.47prpplaguelandley
14:31.50lkjlkjright
14:31.54lkjlkjok. thanks.
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15:06.11prpplagueho ho hum
15:06.18prpplagueGPSFan: cold up your way?
15:07.01GPSFanprpplague: g'day, not really, it's +18F currently.... warmer by far than last week ;>)
15:08.10prpplaguethats pretty darn cold, hehe
15:12.50SpeedEvil+2C here. :)
15:13.02SpeedEvilmelting the deepest snows for 20 years
15:16.28prpplagueSpeedEvil: where is that?
15:18.19SpeedEvilFife, Scotland
15:18.50prpplagueahh
15:40.33MirellHoHoHum
15:42.58prpplagueindeed
15:43.23madsy-5C here, thank God.
15:43.38madsyFor the last week, it has been about -23 C here.
15:43.45sorphin~weather 63146
15:43.52kergothThe high for today here is +75F
15:43.56kergothsad.
15:43.56sorphin~weather kstl
15:43.59SpeedEvilIt has hit -23c in scotland this year
15:44.01madsyAnd -43 C in Roeros, about 50 km from here.
15:44.02SpeedEvilin bits
15:44.26sorphindumps 5 feet of s n o w on East Texas. :-)
15:44.49SpeedEvilmadsy: There are benefits of course.
15:45.00SpeedEvilmadsy: no need to cool superconductors.
15:45.06madsyThe children in Roeros had fun boiling water and then throw it outside. It instantly turned into ice crystals.
15:45.07SpeedEvil:)
15:45.28prpplaguesorphin: glad i don't live in east texas
15:45.35sorphinsince when?
15:45.55prpplaguesorphin: since 2003
15:46.02madsyMeh.. you USians have it too easy, climate-wise :-P
15:46.04sorphinhmm
15:46.12sorphinheh
15:46.12madsyLive a year in Norway, I dare you.
15:46.20sorphinNo thanks.
15:46.34SpeedEvilloves the norwegien weather service.
15:46.45sorphindoesn't even choose to live where he lives now.
15:46.59SpeedEvilIt's got the most accurate forecast - presented in nice ways - that I can find.
15:47.08SpeedEvilhttp://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/Scotland/Glenrothes/hour_by_hour.html
15:47.09prpplaguesorphin: from 2003 to 2004 lived in dfw, 2004 to 2007 barbados, and 2007 to present back in dfw
15:47.20sorphinah
15:47.33sorphinhas it then isolate over the part of DFW that you're in. :)
15:47.47prpplaguehehe
15:48.10prpplaguewe've already had more snow this winter than in 100 years
15:50.36sorphinnod
15:51.06prpplaguewonders if tim is back from CES yet
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15:51.28prpplagueMirell_: more of you?
15:51.37Mirell_Heh
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15:52.19MirellNo longer!
15:53.00sorphinprpplague: so what's on the plate today?
15:53.42prpplaguesorphin: send out quotes, make some cold calls, finish up some docuementation and BOM's for the last completed project
15:53.50prpplagueoh and drink coffee
15:54.13sorphinsounds..... thrilling.
15:54.14sorphinlol
15:54.20prpplagueindeed
15:54.28sorphinhates writing docs
15:54.55prpplaguewould like to find more consistant work
15:55.16wmatprpplague: tim went to China
15:55.32prpplaguewmat: TimRiker?
15:55.37wmator he is going as soon as CES is done
15:55.42wmatyeah
15:55.44prpplaguewmat: ahh
15:56.13sorphinprobably related to his phone
15:56.25wmatprobably
15:56.32madsySpeedEvil: That's cold for you! http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Sør-Trøndelag/Røros/Røros/statistics.html
15:57.19SpeedEvilmadsy: yes - cold for here - I knot ite gets lots colder.
15:57.27SpeedEvilhmm - unicode fail somewhere. won't paste
15:57.53madsyMeh.. I tried changing 'ø' into 'oe', but no dice.
15:57.54SpeedEvilcopy-paste works fine - actually not clicking tho. odd
15:58.26madsyWorks for domains I guess, but not internal directories :)
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16:05.45prpplaguecbrake: greetings
16:05.48prpplagueCosmicPenguin: greetings
16:06.10prpplaguewmat: when did you talk to him last?
16:06.34sorphintalked to him last week.
16:06.45sorphinhe didnt' mention china though
16:06.52prpplaguesorphin: on irc?
16:07.12sorphinFB
16:07.20prpplagueFB ?
16:07.31sorphinfacebook
16:07.41prpplagueahh
16:07.56sorphinthe place you're too antisocial to even go
16:07.57sorphinlol
16:08.33prpplaguei'm not antisocial, just don't know anyone
16:09.30sjhilli was on FB, then i canceled my account
16:09.41sorphin~bitchslap sjhill
16:09.42purlACTION beats the sh*t out of sjhill
16:09.43sorphinwho let you in?
16:09.47sorphinlol
16:10.07sorphinknows quite a few people on there, friends, coworkers, my gf
16:10.08sorphinlol
16:10.14sjhilli'm using my neighbor's AP
16:10.25kergothlikes FB for staying in touch with old acquaintances and family members that live in other states, though the annoying quizes and crap get old fast
16:10.25sorphinlol
16:10.37sorphinkergoth: all filterable
16:10.50sjhillit was one more site i didn't have time to update
16:10.58sorphinalso uses the unfsck facebook script
16:11.00kergothi use a greasemonkey script to block it all rather than doing it app by app
16:11.04sorphinyup
16:11.07sjhillplus i kept getting friends requests from a bunch of HS people
16:11.10sjhilli hated HS
16:11.12kergothsadly ,that doesn't affect the fb iphone/touch app, which makes me sad
16:11.14sorphinsjhill: only site i update
16:11.22sorphinsjhill: and btw... you can HIDE :P
16:11.24sjhillthey can go suck my tarballs
16:11.25kergothhrm
16:11.50sorphinyou can control who can find  you :P
16:12.05sorphinhence my blocking the ex wife, because FB suggested her (since she apparently has joined)
16:12.24prpplague"likes FB for staying in touch with old acquaintances and family members that live in other states, though the annoying quizes and crap get old fast"
16:12.35prpplaguehave none of those so it doesn't really provide anything
16:12.41CosmicPenguinI use it so I can remember my friends birthdays
16:12.47CosmicPenguinPlease, computer, think for me!
16:12.50sorphinCosmicPenguin: hey jordan
16:13.12kergoththats true, thats a nice feature.  i like syncing FB & Linkedin & gmail to my macbook's contacts, gathers up a good deal of info
16:16.40CosmicPenguinsorphin: whats up?
16:17.10sorphinCosmicPenguin: was just saying hi since i hadn't talked to you in years.. lol.. just gearing up for my move this weekend
16:17.20chouimatmorning
16:17.25sorphinchouimat: morning frenchy
16:18.03chouimatsorphin: hi
16:18.25kergothsjhill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTpP770n8aQ (re: facebook & HS)
16:19.08chouimatkergoth: http://www.collegehumor.com/article:1794889 :)
16:19.43sorphinfinds kergoth
16:20.39kergothchouimat: hehe
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16:37.09sorphinCosmicPenguin: was going through my old stuff and found Pixil..
16:37.26CosmicPenguinah, Pixil
16:37.32CosmicPenguinthe operating environment that never was
16:37.52sorphinyeah
16:38.12sorphinsadly, in a directory i had named pixillives
16:41.12CosmicPenguinthere was some okay stuff in there
16:41.25CosmicPenguinI see some parallels in Android, though much more advanced and well thoughtout
16:43.19sorphinyeah
16:44.32sorphinCosmicPenguin: how's stacee?
16:45.09CosmicPenguinDoing well
16:45.28sorphingood
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17:32.56prpplaguedijenerate: ping
17:33.24prpplaguesjhill: you get your wiki installed?
17:35.05dijenerateprpplague: pong
17:35.35prpplaguedijenerate: gonna be down there the weekend of the 28th, we should meet up an have a banks
17:35.46dijenerateprpplague: sounds good
17:35.49dijeneratedefinitely
17:36.15dijenerateprpplague: pm 1 sec
17:45.47prpplaguechouimat: http://jobview.monster.com/Embedded-Engineer-with-strong-bootloader-ex-Job-Boston-MA-US-85349124.aspx
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17:46.55chouimatprpplague: thanks
17:48.00CosmicPenguinohh - omap
17:49.38chouimathmmm montreal ....
17:50.13prpplagueCosmicPenguin: qualcom might be getting loads of new phones and such, but omap3 with the beagle is on the mind of every small company doing embedded dev right now
17:50.57CosmicPenguinprpplague: go ahead, ask me if I care
17:51.35prpplagueCosmicPenguin: sorry if that came across badly
17:51.40CosmicPenguinMy policy of being afraid of competitors stopped after I left AMD - I hope TI sells a million chips
17:52.25prpplagueCosmicPenguin: right, just saying that TI is really working hard to get the small devrs involved
17:52.44CosmicPenguinSure
17:52.55CosmicPenguinThey are well established in that market - it makes sense
17:53.05prpplaguelooks to see if you can get a snapdragon evm
17:53.10CosmicPenguinNo, you can't
17:53.23CosmicPenguinQCOM is net set up for the small developer world, and probably won't ever be
17:54.33prpplaguehttp://openhandsetmagazine.com/2009/01/qualcomm-demonstrates-android-on-snapdragon-platform/
17:54.40prpplaguelooks like one exists
17:54.52CosmicPenguinAnd my policy is - I'm okay with that.  The market is pretty packed and what would differenciate the snapdragon from anybody else?
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17:55.20CosmicPenguinThat is our development platform - you won't be able to get one of those
17:55.25prpplagueahh
18:02.44prpplagueCosmicPenguin: as a side note, everyone a CES has been reporting really nice things about the snapdragon
18:02.57CosmicPenguinIt is a fine chip
18:05.14prpplague~seen TimRiker
18:05.17purltimriker <n=timr@bzflag/projectlead/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 9d 19h 48m ago, saying: 'anyone have contact info for Ambassador Huntsman in Utah? Would like to meet with him briefly, show him our phone and fill him in on our Utah / China business. :)'.
18:07.21prpplaguewishes there were more embedded companies in the dfw area
18:09.49prpplaguewonders why they didn't include a CAN bus - http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/SAM9M10/
18:10.34prpplaguehmm nice, 328pin 0.8mm
18:11.44prpplaguewow that looks really nice
18:11.57prpplaguethat would make a heck of a nice industrial handheld
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18:49.59sjhillprpplague: not yet
18:50.01sjhill<PROTECTED>
18:50.12sjhillit's in my top 10
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20:36.09sjhillwho knows anything about ipkg?
20:36.26ds2ar formated
20:36.42sjhillcome again?
20:37.32ds2the unix command 'ar', typically used to manage static libraries i.e. .a files such as libc.a
20:37.35CosmicPenguinI'm not sure if there is anything else you can say... :)
20:37.47ds2do 'ar t foo.ipkg' to list stuff
20:38.00sjhillhmm
20:38.11sjhillok
20:38.19sjhillnow for some major flaming
20:38.29sjhillin the past, i've been a buildroot proponent
20:38.39sjhilli'm thinking about looking at OE
20:39.11sjhillreally, i just want a build system that uses ipkg, has a lot of packages already supported
20:39.32sjhillprpplague: you should wake up too
20:40.00MirellHmm...
20:42.42sjhilli've not done a google yet
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20:47.42sjhillhome!
20:47.51Madsyhttp://www.barbie.com/vote/
20:47.52Madsy:-D
20:50.30SpeedEvildamn - you can't suggest careers.
20:54.21MadsySpeedEvil: Yeah, I missed "housewife" too.
20:54.37MadsySo I voted Computer Engineer just in spite :-P
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20:58.50MadsyThe day I become a project manager, I'll make sure my teams use gcc compiled from source.
20:59.12MadsyAnd I'll patch in a few bugs now and then, to keep them on their toes.
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21:25.46MirellMan.
21:25.49Mirellurxvt is fast.
21:28.58kergothyep
21:47.34SpeedEvilwants a nice term on the n900
21:47.39SpeedEvilthe existing one kinda sucks
21:49.31ds2SpeedEvil: any other info on how the PHY is connected on there?
21:50.54SpeedEvilds2: coincidentally - was just editing http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_isp1707
21:51.20SpeedEvilit's through that chip - it seems likely to simply be switchable if the right settings in the driver are made.
21:51.37SpeedEvilSomeone with access to the schematic seems to have come to the wrong conclusion
21:52.01ds2there might be ULPI commands
21:52.27ds2the ID pin _MUST_ be ignoreable for OTG PHYs
21:53.00MirellWhy is screen/irssi sometimes not refreshing properly...
21:53.29SpeedEvilyes - that's as I understand it too.
21:54.48SpeedEvilI need to get a toolchain up and start hacking the thing properly.
21:54.58SpeedEvilRL is getting in the way though
22:06.44ds2SpeedEvil: the 1704A datasheet being pointed to looks to have the info
22:06.51SpeedEvilyeah
22:07.40SpeedEvilI should probably read that. Maybe as easy to read hte kernel
22:07.41SpeedEviland patch
22:07.49ds2not quite
22:08.09ds2but the driver from DavidB for another ISP part might help
22:08.22SpeedEvilthere is a built-in driver, with source
22:09.09ds2but the one I am pointing to should support OTG already
22:09.19ds2the HNP bits are what is needed
22:10.11SpeedEvilah
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23:55.20rektidesamba is crashing my openrd / sheevaplug system when i write files
23:55.42rektidei havent the faintest idea how to go about debugging / generating useful debug info for the issue
23:56.05rektidei'm assuming i need to do something such as remote debug the system's kernel or some such ?
23:56.16rektideanyone have suggestions, pointers, recommendations for where to start?

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