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00:10.45prpplagueho ho ho, merry freakin wednesday
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02:09.10roxfano.O renesas going arm? http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=221901265
02:09.35roxfanfunnu how they call it "SH-Mobile"...
02:11.16prpplagueroxfan i suspect they are targeting the vehicle biz
02:15.47roxfan"targeted at mobile phone and mobile device implementations"
02:16.46roxfani guess superh didn't work out too well for video and stuff
02:22.53MonMothaI've never thought that superh worked particularly well for anything...
02:28.20roxfanhehe
02:28.40roxfanwell, it seems it's used in japanese phones pretty widely
02:39.24prpplagueroxfan a little birdie has told me that a long term deal with a number of japanesse auto firms
02:39.52roxfanfrom arm, or renesas?
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03:30.14rektidei wonder if freescale actually intends to do an e700 / 64-bit core anymore
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14:38.58kergothmorning
14:39.11sjhillgood morning
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15:41.51wmatroxfan: the dedicated multimedia processing units on the SH-Mobile APE4 are all SH IP.  Only the MPU is ARM. I don't know a whole lot about the parts yet though. You'll see more of this kind of stuff from Renesas as the merger with NEC moves forward.
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15:59.26MirellHmm...
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16:24.50prpplagueT0mW: hey bud
16:25.03sjhillhey prpplague
16:25.09sjhillwow, T0mW
16:25.20sjhilli though i smelled prunes and denture cream
16:25.24T0mWLOL
16:25.26prpplaguehehe
16:25.26T0mW:P
16:25.41prpplaguesjhill: morning, should have time today to hack around on the cricut stuff
16:25.45sjhillT0mW: great to see you, how've you been?
16:25.48T0mWsjhill: not quite there yet, but I feel "old" this morning.
16:25.51sjhillprpplague: excellent
16:26.18T0mWsjhill: pretty good, been working on my house so much that when I'm at the computer I just haven't logged into IRC.
16:27.16T0mWhad fun the other day, I had to write a network daemon for a customer and install in a linux based product.
16:27.24sjhillknow the feeling
16:27.29sjhillcool
16:27.40sjhillyeah, my house was built in 1904
16:27.45T0mWrush job, I was up until 4AM coding
16:27.51sjhillit's my hobby
16:27.59T0mWsjhill: oh God!  You must be a masochist!
16:28.21T0mWsjhill: knob and tube wiring?
16:28.57chouimatmorning
16:29.38T0mWsjhill: yeah, I get a great deal of satisfaction working on the house.  Ripped out the electric heat baseboards this summer and installed PEX under the floors (staple up) then put in a 110K BTU oil fired hot water heater.
16:30.19T0mWsjhill: it was a lot of work, and an emotional roller coaster trying to work with the building inspector to site where the water heater would god.
16:30.24T0mWs/god/go/
16:30.51T0mWchouimat: good morning, take your arctic air back, please?
16:30.58T0mWprpplague: hey Dave.
16:31.19T0mWI don't know whether to write code today or sand spackle.
16:31.40T0mWtoo brain-tired to code...
16:32.00T0mWtoo broke to afford drywall...
16:32.02T0mWheh
16:32.08prpplagueT0mW: spackle
16:32.13T0mWsjhill: where you working now?
16:33.31T0mWprpplague: yeah, I think I'd better finish hanging the insulation in the crawlspace.  Just another 15 more sheets and I'll be out of the crawlspace for good.  then I can work above ground.
16:33.57chouimatT0mW: its' kind of warm here ... so you will have to ask the penguins instead of me ;)
16:34.32T0mWchouimat: heh, yesterday was a fine day in Pennsylvania.  Today is supposed to hit 40F
16:35.02chouimatbbiab out of food :)
16:35.38T0mWcustomer bitched at the price I gave him for that app, but: quick / cheap / right, pick two...
16:37.09T0mWanybody work with xinetd or inetd ?
16:37.51T0mWthe manpage suggests that an app can "accept" an incoming connection rather than use STDIN.
16:45.15sjhillT0mW: Rockwell Collins
16:45.46T0mWsjhill: getting up in the world, like the Navy, join IT and see the World.
16:51.47sjhillbeen with them for almost 10 years now
16:52.41T0mWsjhill: oh, I thought you were working out in Pittsburg.
16:53.06T0mWfor timesys ?
16:55.34T0mWwell, I think what I've got to do today is write documentation, almost as much fun as sanding spackle.
17:12.15sjhillT0mW: timesys was a 2 year diversion
17:12.20sjhill1-1/2 yr, sorry
17:12.32sjhillthen i went back to work for Collins
17:12.37T0mWah
17:12.50sjhilli still got to keep all my vesting
17:13.13sjhill401K kicks butt
17:13.20T0mWheh
17:13.28sjhillthey match 0.75 for every 1.00 i put in with stock up to 8%
17:13.38T0mWoh, that is good!
17:13.39sjhillfree money
17:13.57sjhilli can't understand people who don't contribute to a 401k with matching
17:14.25sjhillhuh, didn't know file was in here
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17:21.34prpplagueGPSFan: hey bud
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17:36.57GPSFanprpplague: howdy dude..
17:37.39prpplagueGPSFan: you been following my discussions about the showdog board?
17:38.06GPSFanprpplague: not beyond you asking about different panel sizes.
17:38.15prpplagueGPSFan: ahh ok
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17:53.07T0mWhmm, parallel port access "disappeared" in wine.
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18:46.21solarprpplague: 972 is dfw area code right?
18:46.54solaryeah it is. thanks n/m
18:48.10prpplaguesolar: yea 972 is one of the dfw area codes
18:48.21prpplaguesolar: why?
18:55.29solarhad to call somebody over at id software. The area code rang a bell but could not place it.
19:05.59prpplaguesolar: ahh indeed
19:06.17prpplaguethey are over there in richardson iirc
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19:06.26prpplaguevery very very secretive
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19:07.19prpplagueahh they are in mesquite
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19:18.35sjhillmmm mesquite
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19:34.33prpplaguehttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Touch-Revolution-Nimble-NIM1000/
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19:52.06florianprpplague: a new customer? :)
19:52.59prpplagueflorian: no, just thought it was funny that android would be on a microwave or washing machine
19:55.12florianprpplague: Not sure if this is the best idea from a technical point of view. But from the user interface perspective this can be useful.
19:55.33prpplagueflorian: indeed
19:55.56prpplagueflorian: i've already got a test version of android running on the prius omap3 board
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19:56.35florianprpplague: ah nice...
19:57.32florianprpplague: this board is new for me... do you have a link?
20:02.36prpplagueflorian: hehe it is new to everyone
20:02.43prpplagueflorian: i just finished designing it
20:03.06prpplagueflorian: http://www.rad-tech-labs.com/images/PICCture_Board.jpg http://www.rad-tech-labs.com/images/PICCture_Board2.jpg
20:06.13florianprpplague: heh this looks extremely cool!
20:08.41florianprpplague: What's the background for this project?
20:09.42prpplagueflorian: Plugin conversions, basically adding support for running the prius in full electric mode rather than hydrid mode
20:11.20florianprpplague: Really impressive... that's for the second version of the Prius?
20:11.36prpplagueflorian: yea, 2006-2009
20:11.57prpplagueflorian: although i do have support in there for 2001-2005, they don't plan to market it for those
20:14.45florianprpplague: cool!
20:16.18florianDo I need a new car? ;)
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20:34.41chouimatstupid power outage
20:36.04SpeedEvilWon't that void the battery warranty?
20:36.50prpplagueSpeedEvil: you mean doing the full electric ?
20:39.05chouimatruns git fsck ...
20:39.05SpeedEvilyes
20:45.16prpplagueSpeedEvil: as part of the conversion they replace the battery pack with their own
20:45.30prpplagueSpeedEvil: it is their own design for much better EV usage
20:50.35SpeedEvilah.
20:50.39SpeedEvilMakes sense.
20:51.19SpeedEvilFun issue. Today Nokias store for the n900 opened as beta.
20:51.41SpeedEvilIt closed shortly afterwards when it was realised that you could intall the paid apps with apt-get
20:53.21davidc__ahahah
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21:22.02MadsySpeedEvil: haha :-)
21:22.49MadsySo, what the hell? Did they sell applications from the ARM Debian repos or someting?
21:23.21MadsySeeing Synaptic with a "pay" button would seriously crank me up.
21:24.36davidc__they probably thought "Oh we can just use this nice pre-existing package manager"
21:25.58SpeedEvilprobably.
21:26.26SpeedEvilthey have a shiny website - with the undersides not done yet.
21:26.42SpeedEvilI suggested apt-get install package ccnumber
21:27.21davidc__nothing like .bash_history :D
21:28.11MadsySo what did they initially sell? Packaged open source software, or their own third-party software?
21:29.10kergothwho are you guys talking about?
21:30.10davidc__kergoth: nokia n900 apps store, seems it was based around apt, and the paid apps could be installed with a simple "apt-get"
21:30.23kergothcute
21:31.28kergothwonder if they made any changes to apt-get.  I'm sure the n900 isn't that resource constrained, but apt-get sucks in resource constrained environments, last time i looked
21:32.34MadsyRight. An their repo was theirs. So what kind of software did they sell? Repackaged open source software, or third-party stuff?
21:32.37MadsyOr both?
21:33.02MadsyI want to know, because I find it hilarious.
21:33.09kergothwhat's hilarious about it?
21:33.23kergothseems like a pretty sane move to me
21:33.42MadsyWell, the blunder is hilarious in a sad way :-)
21:34.31kergothaye, that certainly is.. one would hope they'd have had some sort of access control for those packages
21:34.42kergothtypical, though
21:34.47kergothnot of nokia, but companies in general :)
21:36.19Madsy"Software wants to be free!!1"
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23:26.20MirellMmm, beeeeeer.
23:30.31prpplagueMirell you seen the trailer for tron legacy?
23:30.38Mirellprpplague: Nope
23:30.45Mirellprpplague: But I'm drunk at the office!
23:31.16prpplaguehehe
23:31.22prpplaguehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AwvuirSEAA
23:36.52MirellThey had a going away party for someone
23:36.56MirellWith champaign
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