| 00:11.50 | MonMotha | anyone know a place that does REALLY cheap PCBs? Like single sided, non plated holes |
| 00:12.01 | MonMotha | I'd etch this myself, but drilling all the holes is a pain |
| 00:12.20 | MonMotha | soldermask/silk of course not required |
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| 00:19.24 | prpplague | landley ho ho ho |
| 00:19.31 | prpplague | landley merry freakin wednesday |
| 00:20.55 | prpplague | "It took two weeks of sitting around moping and having writers block, and either making changes I reverted at the end of the day because it just wasn't improving anything or else feeling like banging on FWL was just no fun at all (so I didn't do it)... And then today while randomly poking at a reduced subset of the problem I'd been wrestling with to try to get SOMETHING done, I saw how to FIX IT." |
| 00:21.14 | prpplague | landley i ment to tell you, you aren't alone when it comes to problems like that |
| 00:21.35 | prpplague | landley i have the exact same results when i deal with hardware issues as well as software issues |
| 00:24.43 | Mirell | prpplague: http://www.batchpcb.com/ ? |
| 00:25.35 | prpplague | Mirell ?? |
| 00:25.45 | Mirell | Er. |
| 00:25.47 | Mirell | Woops. |
| 00:25.48 | Mirell | MonMotha: http://www.batchpcb.com/ |
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| 00:52.15 | roxfan | MonMotha: http://lostscrews.com/viewtopic.php?p=225#p225 |
| 00:54.46 | prpplague | bad bad bad storms in east texas tonight |
| 00:56.48 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 00:56.52 | sunrunner20 | nothing around us though |
| 00:58.16 | MonMotha | Mirell: batchpcb is rather full featured for me, and I'm looking for faster turnaround |
| 00:58.36 | MonMotha | basically, I'm looking for someone who happens to have one of those little mini PCB mills who can run something for me really quick, chuck it in a padded mailer, and off I go |
| 00:58.46 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 00:59.46 | MonMotha | I guess I need to get a little miniature drill press or something |
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| 01:00.03 | MonMotha | I could easily etch this thing myself, but drilling all the holes (something like 100) would be a pain |
| 01:00.09 | MonMotha | it's almost a breakout board |
| 01:00.31 | sunrunner20 | the one at my dads old work was a dremel + press attachment |
| 01:01.06 | MonMotha | yeah, that's an option certainly |
| 01:01.19 | sunrunner20 | mainly becuase the chuck on a normal press isn't accurate enough |
| 01:01.22 | sunrunner20 | and will break the bits |
| 01:01.31 | MonMotha | yeah, you need something small and high speed |
| 01:03.32 | sunrunner20 | man dremels are win only thing better is a industrial strenght dremel lol |
| 01:03.57 | sunrunner20 | they're the only thing i've found that cuts laminated paper at any decient rate |
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| 03:11.53 | landley | And back on. |
| 03:11.57 | prpplague | landley hey bud |
| 03:12.13 | landley | prpplague: any creative person can get writer's block. |
| 03:12.25 | landley | If you can't get writer's block, you're not being creative/doing a creative task. |
| 03:12.30 | landley | Pretty much part of the definition, I think. |
| 03:12.52 | landley | The fix is to either A) have a bunch of different things to work on in parallel, B) not care about the quality of the result. |
| 03:13.01 | prpplague | landley it is the circling of the problem that is interesting |
| 03:13.01 | landley | I go with A, mostly. :) |
| 03:13.18 | landley | I believe the phrase is "cat waxing". |
| 03:13.49 | prpplague | landley most people consider problem solving a linear excersise, move from point A) problem to point B) solution |
| 03:14.02 | landley | The various busy-work things you do to try to jiggle the problem into a position where you can chew it properly. |
| 03:14.15 | landley | prpplague: these people have never solved a really hard problem before, I take it? |
| 03:14.29 | landley | "Get 80% of the way there and figure out you should have been doing something else entirely" is more common. |
| 03:14.42 | prpplague | landley creative people see it more as a spiral, starting at point A) circling the problem in every tighter radius to the center B) |
| 03:15.11 | landley | That's often the case, but you also get close enough to the solution to realize it was the wrong problem. |
| 03:15.21 | prpplague | indeed |
| 03:15.43 | landley | The progress bar can go way the heck backwards. Depends on whether you want to finish and ship a solution you know is wrong before starting over on the right way. |
| 03:16.31 | landley | Well, I managed to bisect the commit in uClibc that made mips stop booting. |
| 03:16.38 | prpplague | its like looking at a cube at one angle and you turn the cube at an oblique angle and seeing something totally different |
| 03:16.53 | prpplague | is totally fascnicated with the concepts of problem solving |
| 03:16.58 | landley | Khem Raj, 416d6bbbb883: "It fixes the following warnings seen on mips build." |
| 03:17.08 | landley | It's a patch to fix warnings in the mips build. It broke mips. |
| 03:17.14 | landley | Wheeeee..... |
| 03:17.22 | prpplague | jeeze |
| 03:18.12 | prpplague | landley what i find interesting is that most of the really good documenation on problem solving are books written 200 or 300 years ago |
| 03:18.42 | landley | Luckily I've figured out the "git diff THINGY THINGY^1 > revert-thingy.patch " syntax. |
| 03:19.18 | prpplague | landley hehe |
| 03:19.49 | kergoth | git revert works as well. |
| 03:20.03 | landley | prpplague: I pointed you at that three waves crud I wrote for the motley fool a decade ago now, right? |
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| 03:20.49 | landley | kergoth: git has 8 gazillion special case commands that you'll never guess unless you've met the people who implemented it at some conference. |
| 03:21.34 | landley | I really prefer mercurial, which just has logical ways to do things so you can figure _out_ how to specify the behavior you want from first principles. |
| 03:22.47 | landley | Take "git get-tar-commit-id". If you didn't know about that, good luck finding it. |
| 03:23.18 | kergoth | agreed. i have a file filled with oddball commands & sequences of commands to do common things |
| 03:23.23 | kergoth | without that, I'd be in trouble |
| 03:23.29 | Mirell | landley: git TAB TAB |
| 03:23.32 | landley | In mercurial, it puts a .hg-archival.txt in the tarball it produces. |
| 03:23.46 | prpplague | landley hey did you get to see the "end of time" episodes yet? |
| 03:23.53 | landley | Mirell: I don't believe that's a complete list. |
| 03:24.03 | kergoth | it only covers the porcelains, not the plumbing |
| 03:24.12 | kergoth | and there aren't porcelains for everything |
| 03:24.16 | landley | And I disable the horrible bash autocompletion stuff when I can, because it keeps breaking stuff. |
| 03:24.29 | Mirell | I love bash completion, especially ssh completion |
| 03:24.42 | landley | For example, git archive HEAD --prefix blah | bzip2 > ~/firmware/packages/alt-uClibc-[TAB][TAB] |
| 03:24.57 | landley | Refuses to complete the filename because it just _knows_ that git archive is going to produce something with a .gz ending, not with a .bz2 ending. |
| 03:25.06 | landley | Even though git archive DOESN'T COMPRESS THE TARBALL AT ALL. |
| 03:25.31 | landley | prpplague: I just finished the DVD with silence in the library through midnight. |
| 03:25.38 | landley | Next one's sitting on the counter at home, but haven't watched it yet. |
| 03:25.45 | landley | Then I've got "The Next Doctor" also sitting on the counter. |
| 03:25.46 | prpplague | landley ahh dandy that one is good |
| 03:25.57 | prpplague | wasn't impressed with " |
| 03:26.05 | prpplague | wasn't impressed with "the next doctor" |
| 03:26.10 | Mirell | landley: Er. With ~/firmware/packages/alt-uClibc-* existing? |
| 03:26.12 | landley | Don't yet have the one with everybody sitting in a bus out in some desert. (Netflix hasn't got it yet.) |
| 03:26.20 | landley | Nor "waters of mars", which might or might not be the same episode. |
| 03:26.32 | prpplague | landley see /msg |
| 03:26.33 | Mirell | landley: Different episodes. |
| 03:26.37 | landley | And _then_ I can get/watch the regeneration episode. |
| 03:26.48 | landley | Mirell: yes, with alt-uClibc-0.tar.bz2 existing. |
| 03:26.51 | prpplague | landley the "end of time |
| 03:26.53 | prpplague | arg |
| 03:26.59 | Mirell | landley: NetFlix has the one with them sitting in a buds |
| 03:27.03 | Mirell | Er, bus. |
| 03:27.04 | landley | I want tab completion to just COMPLETE THE DARN FILENAME. Not try to guess what I mean. |
| 03:27.10 | prpplague | landley the "end of time" series is definitely one for the books |
| 03:27.15 | Mirell | landley: It completes for me. *shrug* |
| 03:27.16 | landley | Mirell: cool. I'll order that when I mail this one back. |
| 03:27.25 | landley | Mirell: could be an ubuntu bug, dunno. |
| 03:28.00 | Mirell | landley: "Planet of the Dead", "Waters of Mars", "End of Time" |
| 03:28.10 | Mirell | landley: Assuming you've also seen "The Next Doctor" |
| 03:28.16 | landley | I run into lots of things where it parses "tar xvjf blah.tar.gz" and won't tab complete a .gz file because it said j, when in fact sometimes the files were misnamed when downloaded and I know what I'm doing. |
| 03:28.29 | landley | (It may not end in .tar or .gz at all, it may say "download.php". grrr.) |
| 03:28.40 | landley | Mirell: I have the next doctor, haven't seen it yet. |
| 03:28.59 | Mirell | landley: I have them all downloaded if you wanted them |
| 03:29.29 | landley | As I said, just finished "midnight", which was the one with the transvestite who got posessed by Unseen Evil and they made a morality play about panic out of it. |
| 03:29.37 | landley | Apparently that season had more than one "stuck in a bus" episode... |
| 03:29.42 | landley | mirell: woot. |
| 03:29.46 | landley | Sure, next time I'm over. |
| 03:30.25 | landley | (Only problem is we haven't got anything that can play 'em to the TV. The Xbox wants us to give microsoft a monthly fee before it'll actually show video from the internet, and I haven't figured out how to convert files so the wii will display them.) |
| 03:30.40 | landley | My laptop hasn't got NTSC output. |
| 03:30.43 | Mirell | landley: So. Uh. Buy the iMac Video Out Cable? |
| 03:30.46 | landley | Yeah, I should get an HDTV. (And a mac.) |
| 03:30.49 | landley | And an iPhone... |
| 03:30.52 | Mirell | landley: Or the MacBook Video Out cable? |
| 03:30.56 | landley | Mirell: the imac is upstairs, the tv is downstairs. |
| 03:31.03 | Mirell | landley: ...and the MacBook? |
| 03:31.16 | landley | Macbook possibly. It has a video out cable that does NTSC? (Old style TV.) |
| 03:31.50 | Mirell | landley: http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9319G/A |
| 03:31.52 | landley | Yes I know it's obsolete, but I'm not gonna buy a new TV until A) I are employed again, B) I know whether or not I'm moving out of the country and would have to ship it overseas. |
| 03:32.08 | Mirell | landley: Oh, that's perfectly logical on the buying new TV thing. |
| 03:32.34 | Mirell | landley: I just linked you the mini-DVI to Plain ol' Composite video adapter for the MacBook |
| 03:32.39 | landley | Ooh, I wonder if the Apple Store in <strike>snootyville</strike> The Doughmain would have that in stock? |
| 03:32.56 | Mirell | landley: Barton Creek does exist, you know. |
| 03:33.07 | landley | Mirell: ooh, that's right, they've finished remodeling. |
| 03:33.15 | landley | Dunno if they have it in stock either, but I can call 'em tomorrow and ask. |
| 03:33.27 | Mirell | landley: Ayup. Dropped off my MacBook there on Monday, and already have it back today. |
| 03:33.27 | landley | (And despite rumors of Barton Creek's existence, it always takes me like five attempts to find the sucker.) |
| 03:34.07 | Mirell | landley: They replaced the bottom case, the logic board, the RAM, the hard drive, and the LCD back light. |
| 03:34.11 | Mirell | landley: ...GoGo AppleCare |
| 03:34.19 | landley | Mirell: by the way, Beth's finally actually started her webcomic. http://stellainchrome.smackjeeves.com/ Only 3 or 4 of 'em up yet. |
| 03:34.45 | landley | Mirell: um... it was under warantee, yet broken/ |
| 03:34.47 | landley | ? |
| 03:35.19 | Mirell | landley: AppleCare extends the warranty from 1 to 3 years |
| 03:35.26 | Mirell | landley: It was randomly locking up with garbled video. |
| 03:35.31 | Mirell | landley: They fixed it in a mad jiffy |
| 03:35.56 | Mirell | landley: Dropped it off Monday, it was overnighted to Memphis and got there Tuesday, they fixed it, shipped it back, and I got it Wednesday morning |
| 03:36.18 | landley | Mirell: Fade bought AppleCare for her iMac, but not for her laptop. (Which is already at least 3 years old anyway, she got it in pittsburgh.) |
| 03:36.32 | Mirell | landley: It's the one extended warranty I will buy |
| 03:37.19 | landley | Mirell: I know because we have a little box that says applecare on it. I think it contains a phone number. |
| 03:37.26 | landley | We had to ring it up at the register and everything. |
| 03:37.31 | landley | I admire this. |
| 03:37.36 | Mirell | Heh. |
| 03:37.42 | Mirell | You can just buy it online. |
| 03:38.14 | landley | Yes, but we didn't. |
| 03:39.11 | Mirell | So I get to deal with testing IPG tomorrow. |
| 03:39.12 | Mirell | ...yay. |
| 03:40.29 | landley | IPG? |
| 03:41.00 | Mirell | Inter-Packet Gap |
| 03:43.35 | landley | Fun. |
| 03:44.01 | landley | So what exactly are you testing, retransmission delays? |
| 03:46.45 | Mirell | Making sure that I'm sending exactly 1Mbps, 12Mbps, 12.5325Mbps |
| 03:47.00 | Mirell | 1Gbps, 5Gbps, all the way up to 10Gbps |
| 03:47.03 | landley | Ah, rate limiting. |
| 03:48.01 | landley | For years I've meant to add a rate limiting filter to toybox, so you can stick it in a pipe and say: tar cz blah | ratelimit 100k | ssh remove "tar xvz" |
| 03:48.17 | landley | And have it NOT totally fill up all your upstream bandwidth until the rest of the net is unusable... |
| 03:48.36 | Mirell | This is for Layer2/3 |
| 03:48.40 | landley | Not hard, I just haven't gotten around to it... |
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| 04:01.33 | SpeedEvil | scp has ratelimit |
| 04:01.36 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 04:01.38 | SpeedEvil | right |
| 04:01.49 | landley | Alas, chick-fil-a is turning off the lights. |
| 04:01.59 | landley | I'll try to remember to login more consistently in future. :) |
| 04:02.13 | solar | wow. this place comes alike when landley shows up. |
| 04:02.22 | landley | solar: I type fast. |
| 04:02.31 | solar | I guess I should say howdy. hello or some such |
| 04:02.32 | landley | </blather> |
| 04:02.48 | landley | To quote corwin, "Goodbye and hello, as always." |
| 04:02.51 | landley | g'night. |
| 04:02.57 | solar | cya |
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| 04:05.47 | Mirell | I e-mailed him a nastygram going, "If you're going to claim #edev is the support channel for FWL, you kind of need to, be here." |
| 04:07.25 | solar | heh |
| 04:07.43 | solar | Mirell: you married yet? |
| 04:08.59 | Mirell | It has been said we bicker like a married couple more than once. |
| 04:09.52 | solar | Mirell: so nope. Thats good in my book. |
| 04:10.36 | solar | being married seems to have many benefits. But it seems also the easy way out. aka giving up. |
| 04:10.40 | solar | blah blah. |
| 04:10.58 | solar | point being. You don't have as much free time as you used to.. |
| 04:12.26 | Mirell | Eh. |
| 04:12.59 | Mirell | I'm also permanently single, so I have endless, endless, endless amounts of free time. |
| 04:13.19 | solar | heh.. was a long was to say.. perhaps landley does not have as much free time to be online.. |
| 04:16.45 | Mirell | Nah |
| 04:16.49 | Mirell | He's got buttloads of free time. |
| 04:17.00 | Mirell | He a) Hangs out in places a lot without wireless |
| 04:17.14 | Mirell | b) Uses Pidgin for IRC, gets frustrated with it, doesn't use it |
| 04:17.14 | solar | ahh. then call him out more++ |
| 04:17.47 | Mirell | His wife is a perfect fit for him, because they're both insane computer addicts. |
| 04:18.40 | solar | oh. I could not marry a woman that used the comp like I do. |
| 04:18.52 | solar | it would feel too much like hooking up with a dude |
| 04:18.56 | Mirell | Heh |
| 04:19.02 | Mirell | Yah, for me, no way. |
| 04:19.16 | Mirell | I want a more, non-computer person. |
| 04:19.22 | solar | yep. |
| 04:19.32 | Mirell | Not computer-dumb, just merely not my extent. |
| 04:19.45 | solar | almost every hooking I've had has been with <=apple |
| 04:20.11 | Mirell | ...your MacBook got you laid? |
| 04:20.21 | solar | no I'm wrong. I had a PC |
| 04:20.32 | solar | no. I never owned a mac. |
| 04:20.38 | solar | I'm saying skill wise |
| 04:20.56 | Mirell | I really have no idea what you mean, honestly. |
| 04:21.10 | solar | the ability to click? |
| 04:21.17 | Mirell | "<=apple" |
| 04:22.00 | solar | device wise. None of them have been computer users outside of a sister giving one of them an old macbook |
| 04:22.08 | solar | device/skill. |
| 04:22.31 | Mirell | Aha |
| 04:22.40 | Mirell | solar: My brain is still hurting from http://twitpic.com/ypacz |
| 04:22.48 | Mirell | solar: So My parsing skills are broken. |
| 04:22.48 | solar | computer addicts tend to be able to jump all arches/os/... |
| 04:24.18 | solar | that pic is a bit blurry |
| 04:24.34 | Mirell | It was with my iPhone |
| 04:25.28 | solar | what I can make of it.. It sounds standard for an apt |
| 04:25.33 | solar | which sucks. |
| 04:25.53 | solar | I think I need 5+acres to myself |
| 04:25.56 | Mirell | Uh |
| 04:26.22 | Mirell | If you have a pet we ask the pet be placed in are we will not need to enter? |
| 04:26.33 | Mirell | Should you have any questions please fee to call the lease office. |
| 04:26.41 | Mirell | Please maek sure your deadbolt is left unlock. |
| 04:26.58 | Mirell | This is notice Our Mainetenace Team will be entering your apartment.. |
| 04:27.22 | solar | heh. Ok that was part of the blurry part. |
| 04:27.35 | Mirell | The first one I typed I had to read that 30 times |
| 04:27.39 | Mirell | Then it clicked, AREA |
| 04:27.43 | Mirell | That's what they mispelled. |
| 04:27.48 | solar | how does one place a pet in call |
| 04:28.01 | Mirell | Heh |
| 04:28.04 | Mirell | It was just, horrible. |
| 04:28.18 | Mirell | Then came across this: http://twitpic.com/yvi8t |
| 04:28.24 | solar | well it took me a few to see it as well |
| 04:28.38 | solar | thats pretty blurry pic |
| 04:28.54 | solar | and heh. funky wording |
| 04:28.58 | Mirell | YESS! |
| 04:29.46 | solar | I was saying the old pic |
| 04:29.53 | Mirell | Ah |
| 04:30.38 | solar | the topic of insurance... they have comfused the public so much that I have nfc whats going on anymore |
| 04:31.25 | Mirell | Nor do I. |
| 04:31.40 | solar | it could be good. It could be worse. who knows. I'm sure in the end I will be offered something that appears freeish but will cost me 3-5 times as much |
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| 04:37.01 | Mirell | Not having to pay $5K medical bills would be nice. |
| 04:43.06 | solar | eww. did you get hit with 5k in med bills recently? |
| 04:43.46 | solar | buddy of mine got hit with 34k on something so very random that only lasted 3 days |
| 04:47.02 | Mirell | Owch. |
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| 11:16.49 | melchior | i need to install apache on an embedded system and i've seriously no idea how tro procede |
| 11:17.17 | melchior | i've already downloaded the source, should I compile them with a cross compiler and copy it to my embedded system ? |
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| 12:09.13 | SpeedEvil1 | pretty much, yes. |
| 12:09.26 | SpeedEvil1 | Assuming you've got adequate storage and RAM |
| 12:09.32 | SpeedEvil1 | and can't find a binary |
| 12:09.52 | SpeedEvil1 | there are much, much smaller webservers if you just need a basic static system |
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| 12:42.04 | Spida | SpeedEvil: 12:26:15 -!- melchior [n=melchior@AStrasbourg-256-1-67-50.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #edev ["Quitte"] |
| 12:42.08 | Spida | SpeedEvil: too late. |
| 12:42.15 | SpeedEvil | meh |
| 12:43.19 | Spida | the youth of today... no patience anymore... |
| 12:43.22 | Spida | *g* |
| 12:43.45 | SpeedEvil | Generally you learn patience bringing up anything embedded :) |
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| 16:08.01 | sorphin | ~whaleslap sjhill |
| 16:08.02 | purl | ACTION beats sjhill upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 16:22.21 | sjhill | ~stab sorphin |
| 16:22.22 | purl | ACTION runs at sorphin with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 16:23.00 | sjhill | almost registered for my St. Louis convention |
| 16:26.30 | sorphin | sjhill: I better warn the CDC |
| 16:26.31 | sorphin | lol |
| 16:32.07 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:32.32 | kergoth | meh |
| 16:34.52 | chouimat | kergoth: this sound like a great idea ;) |
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| 17:21.36 | prpplague | any by chance have the datasheet for the DA9034 from Dialog? it's used on the marvell pxa3xx reference designs |
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| 17:45.00 | prpplague | anyone recommend a PXA310/PXA320 based evb? |
| 18:09.44 | prpplague | interesting, i can't seem to find a single person using a pxa3xx processor |
| 18:10.11 | prpplague | i guess marvell is really starting to see the effects of their NDA and closed docs attitude |
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| 18:26.48 | prpplague | what's funny is i can't seem to find a single evb that you can actually purchase |
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| 18:28.10 | landley | Morning. |
| 18:28.13 | landley | Or possibly early afternoon. |
| 18:30.32 | prpplague | landley: greetings |
| 18:32.23 | prpplague | is getting frustrated at the lack of info about the pxa3xx boards available |
| 18:33.29 | landley | has forgotten what a pxa3xx board is. |
| 18:34.53 | prpplague | landley: marvell's xscale arm processor |
| 18:34.58 | prpplague | landley: formerly intel's stuff |
| 18:35.32 | landley | That's a chip, not a board. |
| 18:36.51 | CosmicPenguin | Thats no moon |
| 18:39.17 | prpplague | landley: i'm looking for a evaluation board based on one of the PXA3xx processors |
| 18:39.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 18:40.08 | prpplague | every board i find is poorly documented and you can't just purchase one online, you have to contact their sales department |
| 18:40.12 | kergoth | hey guys |
| 18:40.16 | prpplague | kergoth: hey bud |
| 18:40.28 | kergoth | thinks today is cursed |
| 18:40.30 | prpplague | kergoth: don't suppose you know of a good pxa3xx based evb? |
| 18:40.34 | kergoth | fraid not |
| 18:42.11 | prpplague | kergoth: you are useless |
| 18:42.17 | prpplague | jokes with kergoth |
| 18:42.23 | kergoth | some days it seems that way.. :) |
| 18:44.20 | CosmicPenguin | tries to remember what stupid thing he was doing |
| 18:44.30 | CosmicPenguin | oh, yeah |
| 18:47.21 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 18:50.15 | chouimat|afk | kergoth: 2010 so far seems to be cursed for me ... |
| 18:50.22 | kergoth | heh, how so? |
| 18:51.23 | chouimat|afk | kergoth: nothing work |
| 18:51.27 | kergoth | :( |
| 18:52.29 | prpplague | chouimat|afk: you already said you don't have any pxa3xx hardware right? |
| 18:52.38 | chouimat|afk | prpplague: yup |
| 18:52.50 | prpplague | well @#$@ |
| 18:53.11 | prpplague | i can't seem to find a single PXA3xx eval board(less than $2k) |
| 18:53.28 | chouimat|afk | prpplague: http://www.compulab.co.il/x300/html/x300-sb-datasheet.htm |
| 18:53.49 | prpplague | chouimat|afk: yea, they keep giving me the run around on actually selling me one |
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| 19:14.42 | landley | prpplague: ask 'em to send you an evaluation unit then? Comp the demo? |
| 19:15.16 | landley | Actually, you'd probably have better luck if you asked 'em to comp you three for your department to evaluate. |
| 19:15.27 | prpplague | landley: yea i get the feeling that they only want to deal with people purchasing 100+ boards |
| 19:15.40 | landley | prpplague: purchasing, yes. But what you need is an evaluation unit. |
| 19:15.48 | landley | That might fall under "free samples" when they deal with those volumes. |
| 19:15.56 | landley | They may not be set up to sell them to you, but they may _give_ them away. |
| 19:16.04 | landley | If you position it right. |
| 19:16.27 | prpplague | landley: yea, problem is my "position isn't right", just need one for testing |
| 19:16.43 | prpplague | landley: i'm sure i'll dig up something |
| 19:16.52 | landley | Which is why asking for three, saying they're evaluation units for an upcoming project, might work better. |
| 19:17.16 | landley | One of those "making yourself look big" things. |
| 19:18.51 | landley | Just got butter all over my laptop. Wheee... |
| 19:18.56 | prpplague | landley: i'm just surprised how quickly marvell has killed off the PXA series with their attitude |
| 19:18.57 | landley | Memo to self: even half a potato can roll. |
| 19:19.28 | landley | Who did the cortex-A8? |
| 19:19.39 | prpplague | landley: cortex-a8 is an ARM core |
| 19:19.48 | prpplague | landley: many different manufacturers use it |
| 19:20.20 | prpplague | landley: intel made a deal with ARM to create xscale, and only intel and now marvell are allow to use xscale cores |
| 19:21.15 | prpplague | landley: the two most prominate manifacturers of cortex-A8 right now are Texas Instruments and Qualcomm |
| 19:22.00 | prpplague | landley: TI has the OMAP3 series and qualcomm's is the SnapDragon(iirc) |
| 19:22.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: isn't that the correct name? |
| 19:37.03 | landley | prpplague: I thought xscale stopped being interesting because its power consumption to performance ratio wasn't as good as other arm. (But then I may be holding strongarm against it, dunno.) |
| 19:37.13 | landley | I also thought cortex as like OMAP. Guess not... |
| 19:38.27 | prpplague | landley: not all OMAPs are cortex-A8 |
| 19:40.38 | prpplague | landley: xscale is pretty good about power management, the PXA2xx series was pretty much top dog for about 2-3 years, but since marvell is massivelly paranoid about releasing datasheets and specs, they make you sign an NDA to get a NDA that you have to sign to get the datasheet |
| 19:41.55 | prpplague | landley: with that in mind alot of the smaller developers are moving towards OMAP3 since they can get open hardware like the beagle for less than $200USD |
| 19:43.21 | CosmicPenguin | SnapDragon! |
| 19:45.34 | CosmicPenguin | You need to say it right |
| 19:45.38 | CosmicPenguin | Snnnnappp dragon |
| 19:49.39 | Mirell | SNAP DRAGON |
| 19:49.46 | Mirell | THAT FUNKY DRAGON |
| 19:49.54 | Mirell | SNAP DRAGON JUNKIE |
| 19:50.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: more like line "oh Snap, what the heck is that also ran qualcomm chip?" |
| 19:50.29 | prpplague | jokes with CosmicPenguin |
| 19:50.34 | CosmicPenguin | snap indeed |
| 19:50.43 | CosmicPenguin | It got CES all hot and bothered |
| 19:50.45 | CosmicPenguin | thts good enough for me |
| 19:50.52 | prpplague | indeed |
| 19:51.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they have linke 3 or 4 android phones now based on it right? |
| 19:53.39 | CosmicPenguin | At least 1 |
| 19:54.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: is there any public info that would indicate that qualcomm is going to make any lower cost dev boards available, or are they still keeping to the upper crust of the phone market? |
| 19:56.00 | CosmicPenguin | I would say probably no |
| 19:56.40 | prpplague | wonders what qualcomm thinks about the beagleboard |
| 19:56.45 | CosmicPenguin | We're not really down with the hobbyists, and its not really a hobbyist platform |
| 19:57.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
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| 20:14.03 | _new_Dev_ | hi every body! |
| 20:15.00 | SpeedEvil | ni |
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| 20:32.16 | landley | Hi _new_Dev |
| 20:50.12 | _new_Dev_`tv | hi landley |
| 21:19.08 | landley | So I just reverted the mips breakage in uClibc 0.9.30.2 and that's working. Now to figure out what happened to sh4... |
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| 21:53.53 | prpplague | hmm |
| 21:54.08 | prpplague | tries to think if there are any actual shows on NBC that he watches |
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| 22:14.37 | alex4nde1 | hey |
| 22:14.59 | alex4nder | anyone in here have any experience with the at91's USB 'USD' interface? |
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| 22:45.40 | davidc__ | alex4nder: played with it once |
| 22:45.49 | davidc__ | if you're referring to the device-side USB implementation |
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| 22:49.44 | prpplague | alex4nder: i've got a couple eval boards i was planning to use for a custom device using that |
| 22:49.53 | prpplague | alex4nder: but it got bumped down on the todo list |
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| 23:29.08 | alex4nder | davidc__: hey.. sorry I missed this.. did you implement your own support for the device-side, or use Atmel's library? |
| 23:29.24 | davidc__ | alex4nder: I used the built-in support in linux |
| 23:29.32 | davidc__ | alex4nder: I was using the AT91SAM9260, with linux as a guest OS |
| 23:29.36 | davidc__ | erm, as the device OS |
| 23:31.49 | alex4nder | davidc__: ah, ok. I'm on a sam7a3, with a custom OS. |
| 23:32.19 | alex4nder | I think I just found my problem. |
| 23:32.22 | alex4nder | or at least a symptom. |
| 23:34.44 | alex4nder | the endpoint is getting turned off right after I send. |
| 23:36.11 | alex4nder | these atmel docs suck |
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| 23:38.59 | MonMotha | yeah, the docs on the Atmel ARM parts are only soso |
| 23:39.10 | MonMotha | AVR tends to be pretty good and a whole lot less buggy :) |
| 23:39.19 | alex4nder | yah. |
| 23:41.46 | davidc__ | hah. Go play with the pic32 one day. the AVR docs will seem like the authorative bible for the parts |
| 23:44.25 | prpplague | hehe |
| 23:46.52 | MonMotha | yeah, I've never liked Microchip's docs |
| 23:46.57 | MonMotha | nor Maxim's oddly |
| 23:47.09 | MonMotha | I say oddly because I know a lot of people like them |
| 23:47.22 | MonMotha | isn't PIC32 the MIPS clone thingie? |
| 23:51.03 | florian | yep |
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| 23:56.50 | MonMotha | well, at least if it's MIPS, it won't be as crazy weird as the other PIC archs |
| 23:57.06 | MonMotha | of course, that's just the CPU core and says nothing about their peripherals |
| 23:59.10 | davidc__ | MonMotha: the ref manual says "hey, just load this value into syskey to enable changing PLLs" |
| 23:59.20 | davidc__ | and nowhere does it actually state the format of syskey, or what memory location its at |
| 23:59.35 | davidc__ | I ended up pulling it out of their libraries with nm |