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| 00:07.16 | NullMoogleCable | its there but connected to the audio chip |
| 00:08.31 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable what's that? |
| 00:09.13 | NullMoogleCable | i2c is a simple interface that is used with alot of sensors and eeproms |
| 00:09.30 | NullMoogleCable | might be abble to add a temp sensor |
| 00:10.08 | NullMoogleCable | or one of these boards for io |
| 00:10.26 | NullMoogleCable | http://wtfmoogle.com/?p=721 |
| 00:12.19 | NullMoogleCable | then the posibilities are endless |
| 00:12.43 | prpplague | indeed |
| 00:12.56 | prpplague | is familiar with i2c, just came in on the end of the conversation |
| 00:15.04 | prpplague | oh digikey has the zippy2 in the database now |
| 00:15.22 | NullMoogleCable | http://wtfmoogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/usb.png |
| 00:15.33 | NullMoogleCable | my new usb screen :-D |
| 00:16.52 | NullMoogleCable | http://wtfmoogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/bg_health_safety.png |
| 00:18.22 | NullMoogleCable | btw prpplague http://4549591776866348305-a-1802744773732722657-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/claudeschwarz/didj_cart_pinout_SD.JPG?attachauth=ANoY7coMs6wqMYHVSPZCmA5XSQ6_KHZebh9ziXqvwcTa3Vmi9c0AA9bJWCE045ubd3csMEKns2K9GAn17rWAKSg2YDlBtsA2LT0nLmEh1b-ph8pOtA3o_raEiek2m4GokkU6CDIheWvgb2_Xcc33qBMDhF-mXmgm_blyLJu-3hNU9fyK5PBulQc7JW824_VIEwbOYXajD5lW37Soln8390Tt2r2y9at5Ww%3D%3D&attredirects=0 |
| 00:18.25 | NullMoogleCable | eep |
| 00:18.33 | NullMoogleCable | that is a better pinout |
| 00:19.10 | prpplague | looks |
| 00:19.28 | prpplague | hmm |
| 00:19.40 | prpplague | that didn't work, might try tinyurl |
| 00:20.08 | NullMoogleCable | image is from clauds website |
| 00:22.41 | prpplague | yea i looked at that |
| 00:22.42 | prpplague | one |
| 00:22.48 | prpplague | but i figured the other was more generic |
| 00:23.08 | NullMoogleCable | this one is more detailed |
| 00:23.30 | prpplague | looks to have the same info to me |
| 00:23.45 | prpplague | ahh wait right |
| 00:23.57 | prpplague | there are a couple of pins unlabeled on the other one |
| 00:30.11 | NullMoogleCable | they really made it tough to add a connector to the case lol |
| 00:31.27 | NullMoogleCable | no free space anywhere |
| 00:36.56 | rektide | i really need to work on some kind of pivot root overlay for this system |
| 00:37.00 | rektide | openrd board. |
| 00:37.07 | rektide | 512MB of flash for / is not enough |
| 00:40.21 | calculus | it probably depends on your usage, but 512MB can be a lot for / |
| 00:40.41 | calculus | it certainly won't do much good as a file server |
| 00:40.57 | rektide | i have 4 1.5TB hard drives in a raid array next to it |
| 00:41.45 | calculus | using a SATA port multiplier? |
| 00:41.45 | rektide | but i used to use a 32MB flash Netgear WGT634U for many of the same roles, and somehow that usually worked too |
| 00:41.49 | rektide | yes |
| 00:42.11 | rektide | just a JBOD with soft raid |
| 00:48.24 | NullMoogleCable | cant you set the usb as a host? |
| 00:50.01 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable i haven't looked at it in over a year, but iirc, you'd have to change the pullup resistors and a couple items in the kernel to have it run as usbhost |
| 00:50.03 | NullMoogleCable | thats what the 12MHz Crystal is for |
| 00:50.06 | prpplague | it is dos ble |
| 00:50.29 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable you have to have usb pll for usb slave or host |
| 01:28.42 | NullMoogleCable | prpplague for the uart |
| 01:28.52 | NullMoogleCable | do you have to swap the tx and rx |
| 01:33.19 | NullMoogleCable | ? |
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| 02:12.31 | NullMoogleCable | woot i got terminal to it! |
| 02:27.13 | NullMoogleCable | umm now what? |
| 02:48.34 | NullMoogleCable | looks like there can be a usb ethernet adapter attacahed :) |
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| 03:35.38 | NullMoogleCable | cd usr |
| 03:35.51 | NullMoogleCable | cd bin |
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| 03:45.25 | NightMonkey | Hi all. I hope I'm in an appropriate channel. I'm trying to find a platform for a network-oriented system. I want to basically make a firewall, with snort and such, on Linux. However, I need to find a board with something like a "dead man's switch" for RJ-45 sockets for Ethernet. |
| 03:47.07 | NightMonkey | I'd like to put together this device and have it sit between a LAN and a WAN device, but switch over to a passthrough "bridge" when the power goes bye bye. |
| 03:48.05 | NightMonkey | If it means anything, I'm buulding a POC device, to support non-profits that I work for. |
| 03:49.05 | NightMonkey | Any pointers? |
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| 03:55.21 | SpeedEvil | Why not just a random off-the-shelf router with the ability to set the routes on it? |
| 03:55.34 | SpeedEvil | and more than one network interface |
| 03:55.47 | SpeedEvil | that you can reflash with 'proper' linux firmware |
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| 05:27.47 | NightMonkey | SpeedEvil: Well, I'd like to have other services on it, such as Nagios, SSH for service tunnels, remote access to internal machines, a syslog server, etc. |
| 05:28.08 | NightMonkey | SpeedEvil: But, I'm not against that idea. Have a reccomendation? :) |
| 05:29.14 | NightMonkey | SpeedEvil: The bridge-on-powerfail is key, tho. |
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| 06:32.46 | landley | So Google finally decided not to hire me after 7 months of indecision. |
| 06:33.15 | landley | I'd made it through the technical committee, so the engineers were ok with me. But got turned down by the remaining bureaucracy, for some unknown reason. |
| 06:33.35 | landley | But that's not the part I mind. Being invited to re-apply in a few months, that's the part I mind. |
| 06:33.49 | landley | I got the corporate equivalent of the "but we can still be friends" speech. |
| 06:33.54 | landley | THIS IS A NEW EXPERIENCE FOR ME. |
| 06:34.15 | landley | boggles. |
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| 12:45.59 | T0mW | watches snow falling |
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| 13:03.50 | SpeedEvil | watches no snow not falling. |
| 13:04.00 | SpeedEvil | Sunny here for once. |
| 13:04.10 | SpeedEvil | It's a balmy 8.7 in here. |
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| 13:39.35 | mnemoc | landley: ibm@austin then? |
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| 14:42.09 | ja2 | Hi, Im looking for a dev. board with VGA and line in&out. Preferably sold in a "educational kit". Any suggestions? |
| 14:44.37 | SpeedEvil | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mini2440-S3C2440-ARM9-Board-3-5-TFT-LCD-Touch-Screen_W0QQitemZ120512554488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0f1ba5f8 |
| 14:44.50 | SpeedEvil | If you don't by VGA mean a VGA connector |
| 14:45.24 | mnemoc | esky-sh sells one with vga connector adapter too |
| 14:46.04 | mnemoc | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mini2440-S3C2440-ARM9-Board-VGA-Conversion-Module_W0QQitemZ120474857032QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0cdc6e48 |
| 14:46.19 | SpeedEvil | oh yeah - forgot that |
| 14:46.36 | Inopia_ | heh, first picture is showing Android |
| 14:46.57 | Inopia_ | didn't know there was a port for the sc2440 |
| 14:47.06 | Inopia_ | *s3c |
| 14:49.48 | mnemoc | oh, this one got upgraded to 1GB of Nand too |
| 14:52.51 | ja2 | Those are good suggestions. Any others? |
| 14:54.40 | mnemoc | the beagleboard, but it has DVI-D, not VGA |
| 14:55.03 | Inopia_ | dunno, https://store.chumby.com/pages.php?pID=14 ? :) |
| 14:55.25 | ja2 | Yes, I found the beagle. I guess VGA is not necessay if there's DVI :) |
| 14:55.32 | Inopia_ | ja2: what exactly do you want to do with them? what sort of budget, etc ? |
| 14:55.52 | mnemoc | ja2: if you get a beagleboard, don't forget to buy a zippy too |
| 14:56.43 | ja2 | Its for educational purposes at a university. Budget is kind of low, approx 200 euro for the whole lot including a jtag debugger. |
| 14:57.06 | ja2 | Running a RTOS port (pref freeRTOS) would be super. |
| 14:57.18 | ja2 | But also need Linux. |
| 14:57.53 | mnemoc | the mini2440 comes with jtag (parallel) debugger |
| 14:58.14 | ja2 | Do you know if openOCD support? |
| 14:58.33 | mnemoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.36 | mnemoc | err |
| 14:58.52 | mnemoc | yes, it does |
| 15:00.49 | mnemoc | ja2: a good alternative to the beagleboard is also http://www.kwikbyte.com/KBOC_BB2.html |
| 15:02.43 | ja2 | That was a very nice board. |
| 15:03.08 | mnemoc | ja2: but if you want the students to go farther, http://www.tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16142&cat=250&page=1 |
| 15:04.21 | mnemoc | with the hammer they can solder their own periferals |
| 15:04.23 | mnemoc | +kit |
| 15:05.04 | ja2 | Yes, very neat. However, the main purpose if to experiment with RTOS. |
| 15:10.38 | mnemoc | http://rt.wiki.kernel.org :) |
| 15:11.33 | ja2 | hehe, the quote :) |
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| 15:31.58 | NullMoogleCable | hi hi |
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| 15:32.40 | Chocobo | Any of you have any experience with XMOS processors? They look interesting. |
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| 16:19.29 | NullMoogleCable | oh cool!!! |
| 16:19.44 | NullMoogleCable | the processor in the diji is binary compatible with the ARM7TDMI |
| 16:20.04 | NullMoogleCable | therefor http://www.uclinux.org/pub/uClinux/ports/arm7tdmi/ |
| 16:21.39 | Chocobo | diji? |
| 16:21.55 | NullMoogleCable | http://www.elinux.org/Didj |
| 16:22.53 | Chocobo | nice! |
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| 16:35.19 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: why would you want to run uClinux on the didj? |
| 16:37.42 | NullMoogleCable | no idea lol |
| 16:38.22 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: that would be a real waste of the machine |
| 16:39.00 | NullMoogleCable | and what has happened to magiceye? |
| 16:39.02 | NullMoogleCable | http://www.mesdigital.com |
| 16:39.36 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: no clue haven't been able to find out |
| 16:39.47 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: there isn't any info that i can find |
| 16:40.52 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: the didj already is supported for full linux support, running uclinux would just cripple it |
| 16:46.01 | NullMoogleCable | hmm they might have been bought out by Samsung Electronics Semiconductor Division. |
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| 16:52.48 | cbrake | does anyone know of a consultant who has experience with high end cell phone camera designs, such as the camera found in the N900, etc? |
| 16:53.20 | SpeedEvil | I know a fair bit about them - based on research done for similar models. |
| 16:53.37 | florian | hi cbrake |
| 16:53.59 | SpeedEvil | First thing to note is that megapixels is a lie! |
| 16:55.09 | florian | cbrake: Some colleagues here worked on other camera projects with quite high resolutions. But industrial designs and no cellphone toys :) |
| 16:56.31 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:56.49 | SpeedEvil | Industrial cameras tend not to have lenses that violate 1.22*y/d :) |
| 16:57.13 | florian | hi kergoth |
| 16:57.26 | florian | SpeedEvil: true :-) |
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| 17:25.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 17:25.31 | CosmicPenguin | yoyo |
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| 17:30.36 | prpplague | davidc__: hey bud |
| 17:30.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how;s life at the Q |
| 17:31.28 | davidc__ | heya prpplague |
| 17:33.19 | CosmicPenguin | YOu know, same ol' same ol' |
| 17:42.46 | Mirell | It...snowed. For like a minute outside. |
| 17:42.58 | prpplague | Mirell: hehe |
| 17:43.02 | prpplague | checks the window |
| 17:43.25 | prpplague | Mirell: very light mist here |
| 17:43.46 | prpplague | dijenerate: you going to the Spice show at the globe? |
| 17:45.23 | dijenerate | prpplague: nope... it's not really my thing |
| 17:45.38 | dijenerate | prpplague: thought you were supposed to be here for a while |
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| 17:46.06 | prpplague | dijenerate: i was there for a week, but i was so busy i didn't get to do @#$%$ |
| 17:46.52 | prpplague | dijenerate: had time to go to a couple rum shops and down to the ship inn but that was about it |
| 17:47.38 | dijenerate | prpplague: lol |
| 17:47.57 | dijenerate | prpplague: well next trip would be the holiday I guess, lol |
| 17:48.14 | prpplague | dijenerate: yea probably in the summer |
| 17:48.30 | prpplague | dijenerate: looking at doing a couple installs of openbravo |
| 17:48.42 | prpplague | dijenerate: http://www.openbravo.com |
| 17:48.57 | prpplague | dijenerate: you should look at using that |
| 17:49.15 | prpplague | dijenerate: for some of your installs |
| 17:54.48 | dijenerate | prpplague: I'll look into it, but we are actively developing our own platform that does some of that |
| 17:55.18 | dijenerate | prpplague: an OS independent web based solution |
| 17:57.16 | prpplague | dijenerate: yea openbravo is web based as well |
| 17:57.23 | prpplague | dijenerate: core is open source |
| 17:57.29 | dijenerate | prpplague: ok |
| 18:14.28 | NullMoogleCable | ok I got the diji to a point where i can play with the linux on it. |
| 18:15.05 | NullMoogleCable | problem is i never really messed with linux much without a gui |
| 18:16.03 | davidc__ | NullMoogleCable: now is as good a time as any to learn the guts! |
| 18:16.08 | NullMoogleCable | whats a good place to start? |
| 18:17.51 | davidc__ | NullMoogleCable: I dunno... linux command line reference of some sort? :P |
| 18:18.00 | davidc__ | learn your way around the bash shell / coreutils / etc first |
| 18:18.25 | davidc__ | then learn the system dir structure [aka, purpose of /var /etc /usr /proc /sys /bin .....] |
| 18:20.29 | mnemoc | try ibm's training guides for the LPIC-1 |
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| 18:42.29 | prpplague | Mirell: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/high-tech-push-is-here-to-stay-in-auto-industry-2010-02-10 |
| 18:58.05 | prpplague | hehe sure is funny that every kid's toy that i hack up ends up in the discount bin and everyone goes crazy about it |
| 19:02.18 | NullMoogleCable | PS1="What is thy bidding Master?" |
| 19:02.20 | NullMoogleCable | oops |
| 19:03.27 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: i've been trying to get my wife to say that for years, just can't seem to get her to do it |
| 19:03.48 | NullMoogleCable | lol |
| 19:07.14 | davidc__ | forwards that to prpplague's wife |
| 19:07.26 | NullMoogleCable | Scanning device for bad blocks |
| 19:07.26 | NullMoogleCable | Bad eraseblock 216 at 0x01b00000 |
| 19:07.55 | prpplague | davidc__: hehe |
| 19:08.03 | prpplague | davidc__: you think i'm kidding |
| 19:08.17 | NullMoogleCable | then there is a big list o bad eraseblocks ... ? |
| 19:08.18 | prpplague | davidc__: i try the jedi mind trick on her all the time |
| 19:08.32 | prpplague | davidc__: try to get her to get me a beer from the fridge |
| 19:08.39 | prpplague | davidc__: for some reason it just doesn't work |
| 19:09.00 | davidc__ | prpplague: one day it will, and then you'll open the beer + it'll spray all over you |
| 19:09.39 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:25.56 | NullMoogleCable | ok im never going to learn anything if i cant stop System shutting down due to inactivity after 420000 [ms]. |
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| 19:42.04 | davidc__ | NullMoogleCable: grep -r "System shutting down due to inactivity" /etc would be a good place to start :) |
| 19:42.14 | davidc__ | that might find you a script thats triggering |
| 19:54.14 | Mirell | Past that, echo/printfs scattered gratutiously everywhere |
| 19:56.32 | prpplague | a nice place to start is to do a ps -ef and check to see what's running |
| 20:03.24 | T0mW | I am literally snowed in! The snow is about 14" deep in front of the door, good thing it opens inward. |
| 20:07.26 | T0mW | prpplague: Dave, check this out, http://www.tomsnewhome.info/snow.jpg |
| 20:08.10 | prpplague | looks |
| 20:13.13 | prpplague | T0mW: nice, i wish it snowed more in the dfw area |
| 20:13.27 | prpplague | T0mW: we are suppose to get some light dusting tonight and tomorrow |
| 20:13.35 | davidc__ | hah, wish it was snowy here. We're about to host the least-wintery winter olympics ever |
| 20:14.23 | prpplague | davidc__: hehe, not like anyone is watching anyway, hehe |
| 20:14.48 | bsdfox | when do those start |
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| 20:15.06 | prpplague | checks his bank account and sees a wire transfer atlast for unpaid invoices |
| 20:15.25 | kergoth | grats? :) |
| 20:15.29 | davidc__ | what the ski runs look like: http://www.torontosun.com/sports/vancouver2010/photos/2010/02/10/021010WSolympics13.jpg |
| 20:15.35 | davidc__ | bsdfox: couple days |
| 20:16.47 | prpplague | kergoth: indeed, time to head to the nudie bar |
| 20:17.16 | prpplague | kergoth: (i only wish i could, i have so much work to do it isn't even funny) |
| 20:17.28 | kergoth | heh, that's good though, right :) |
| 20:20.09 | prpplague | kergoth: yep |
| 20:21.27 | prpplague | kergoth: if i can secure this deal on the 17th, it will be the coup de grâce for the year |
| 20:21.32 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:22.05 | prpplague | kergoth: looks to be a nice 6 to 9 month contract with enough to really pay for a year |
| 20:28.10 | Mirell | prpplague: Woot! |
| 20:28.50 | prpplague | supposedly the rest of the unpaid invoices should have payments by monday |
| 20:28.59 | prpplague | will feel alot better with the invoices paid |
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| 20:34.36 | sjhill | greetings weenies |
| 20:34.46 | prpplague | sjhill: hey bud |
| 20:36.10 | sjhill | you ever do a pivot_root in a running system? |
| 20:36.30 | sjhill | essentially shut everything down to a minimal process, then switch to a different root? |
| 20:36.31 | T0mW | davidc__: you may come and take all that you need, I won't mind. |
| 20:37.17 | sjhill | T0mW: your sanity, or something else? |
| 20:37.40 | davidc__ | sjhill: no, we're talking about snow :P - he has too much, us, not enough |
| 20:37.57 | sjhill | davidc__: and how, same here in Iowa |
| 20:38.09 | sjhill | running out of places for it |
| 20:38.20 | davidc__ | sjhill: they're flying it in with helicopters here |
| 20:38.22 | sjhill | i'm going to start burying my neighbors porch |
| 20:39.35 | prpplague | sjhill: i have, and tenically that is kind of what you do with minimal initrdfs stuff |
| 20:40.11 | prpplague | sjhill: got a system where you need to pivot? |
| 20:42.59 | sjhill | prpplague_afk: yeah |
| 20:43.09 | sjhill | it doesn't look too bad |
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| 21:00.29 | Sariel | anyone have recent news on the didj systems? |
| 21:01.25 | NullMoogleCable | me |
| 21:01.41 | Sariel | care to share? |
| 21:01.58 | Sariel | i've read anything i can get my hands on from your standard search |
| 21:02.18 | Sariel | plan on ordering two of the custom carts |
| 21:02.30 | NullMoogleCable | http://wtfmoogle.com/?page_id=741 |
| 21:04.44 | Sariel | so that would give you read access to the os to a cart or both? |
| 21:05.09 | Sariel | i see the firmware folder, so i assume its for the os |
| 21:05.26 | NullMoogleCable | gives you access to the Didj partition |
| 21:05.45 | Sariel | full access? |
| 21:05.57 | Sariel | thats pretty frickin sweet |
| 21:06.23 | Sariel | didnt think it would have been that easy to get into the fs |
| 21:06.24 | NullMoogleCable | i hacked the startup video to be a rick roll :-D |
| 21:06.31 | Sariel | hahaha |
| 21:06.34 | Sariel | thats awesome |
| 21:07.32 | bsdfox | bollocks is on the bad words list? |
| 21:07.46 | NullMoogleCable | yup lol |
| 21:07.55 | Sariel | lol |
| 21:08.19 | NullMoogleCable | and tits |
| 21:08.25 | Sariel | yay for tits |
| 21:08.53 | Sariel | horseshit |
| 21:09.18 | Sariel | honestly how many kids know that word |
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| 21:22.25 | prpplague | Sariel: anything specific you are looking for information on? |
| 21:23.48 | prpplague | Sariel: just a note, this channel is frequented by alot of professionals accessing irc from work, please keep the language clean enough that corp filters don't give us trouble |
| 21:26.19 | NullMoogleCable | hmm prpplague i found the leapfrog svn :) |
| 21:26.26 | NullMoogleCable | http://source.leapfrog.com/Software/Brio/Brio2/LinuxDist/packages/lfpkg/lfpkg |
| 21:27.17 | Sariel | sorry, my got my didj today from woot |
| 21:27.19 | Sariel | its doa |
| 21:27.28 | Sariel | : ( |
| 21:27.37 | NullMoogleCable | did you put batterys in it? |
| 21:27.41 | Sariel | yea |
| 21:27.42 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: dandy |
| 21:27.44 | Sariel | 4 AA |
| 21:27.56 | Sariel | even tried pushing the reset on the back |
| 21:27.59 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: how did you find that svn? |
| 21:28.02 | bsdfox | what did woot sell them for |
| 21:28.11 | Sariel | like $20 |
| 21:28.23 | bsdfox | wow nice |
| 21:28.28 | Sariel | yea |
| 21:28.37 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: hmm no dns for source.leapfrog.com |
| 21:28.39 | bsdfox | I've never even heard of them before |
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| 21:28.57 | Sariel | i did but never paid much mind to them |
| 21:29.18 | prpplague | bsdfox: never head of leapfrog or of the Didj? |
| 21:29.23 | NullMoogleCable | prpplague cart-upgrade-how-to.emma from thelinux zip thingy |
| 21:29.28 | bsdfox | didj |
| 21:29.38 | Sariel | until it was said to use linux, so then i instantly thought, sweet some new toy i can use on lunch at work |
| 21:30.19 | bsdfox | does it have wifi |
| 21:30.21 | Sariel | gonna try some new batts, i pulled these 4 out of my wii light bar |
| 21:30.24 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: didn't follow anything you said |
| 21:30.26 | Sariel | nope |
| 21:30.46 | Sariel | its got a serial IO |
| 21:31.00 | NullMoogleCable | http://medialib.leapfrog.com/didj_opensource_code/Didj-Linux-3197-20080429-1631.tar.gz |
| 21:31.01 | prpplague | Sariel: thats odd, but normally the didj needs some pretty strong batteries |
| 21:31.06 | Sariel | so thats gotta count for something |
| 21:31.23 | Sariel | yea |
| 21:31.40 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: yea right, i saw the info about the svn, but they had that pulled down about a year ago with no net access |
| 21:31.48 | Sariel | thought about pulling one of my wallwarts out with the right VC and ma for it |
| 21:31.57 | Sariel | takes 9V 700ma |
| 21:32.20 | Sariel | at least for a test to see if it even gets port |
| 21:32.22 | Sariel | *power |
| 21:32.56 | prpplague | bsdfox: http://www.elinux.org/Didj |
| 21:33.09 | Sariel | thats how i found this place |
| 21:33.18 | Sariel | from elinux |
| 21:33.25 | prpplague | bsdfox: GPSFan and a few of the others here started hacking around with Didj when it first came out abou 18 months ago |
| 21:33.55 | prpplague | bsdfox: i usually keep an eye out for new kids toys using arm cores for hacking/repurposing |
| 21:35.16 | prpplague | http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/10/congressman-charlie-wilson-dies/?test=latestnews |
| 21:37.17 | Sariel | wpw |
| 21:37.20 | Sariel | *wow |
| 21:38.26 | Sariel | had no clue |
| 21:38.29 | CosmicPenguin | Much of what we know today is the way it is because of that man |
| 21:40.35 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, and "Charlie Wilson's War" is a most excellent movie if you haven't seen it |
| 21:40.59 | Sariel | oh yea watched that a few months back |
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| 21:42.54 | Sariel | woot my didj isnt dead |
| 21:43.02 | Sariel | just low batts i suppose |
| 21:43.18 | Sariel | wouldnt mind hacking together a li-ion pack for it |
| 21:43.19 | NullMoogleCable | lol another website |
| 21:43.21 | NullMoogleCable | http://emma.leapfrog.com |
| 21:43.27 | NullMoogleCable | now dead :( |
| 21:43.37 | Sariel | its down |
| 21:45.12 | Sariel | there was a blog of a developer that helped with the didj |
| 21:45.19 | Sariel | i think leapfrog made them take it down |
| 21:45.28 | Sariel | but atm you can still get it from google cache |
| 21:45.40 | Sariel | i saved the whole page for when google decides to refresh the cache |
| 21:46.01 | Sariel | lemme see if i cant find it again |
| 21:46.02 | NullMoogleCable | link? |
| 21:48.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, he was the congressman for my district there in east texas |
| 21:48.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: grew up seeing his face around town |
| 21:48.42 | Sariel | heres the orig: http://andrey.thedotcommune.com/2008/11/didj-hacking.html |
| 21:48.56 | Sariel | and the g-cache: http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:69aEoMRtAi8J:andrey.thedotcommune.com/2008/11/didj-hacking.html+http://andrey.thedotcommune.com/2008/11/didj-hacking.html&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a |
| 21:49.03 | prpplague | Sariel: yea andrey is a decent guy |
| 21:49.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: oh - he was yours? Neat |
| 21:49.11 | prpplague | yea |
| 21:49.16 | CosmicPenguin | Small world |
| 21:49.44 | CosmicPenguin | Dick Cheney was my representative, but it was Wyoming, and we only got one |
| 21:49.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lufkin was my highschools football rivals |
| 21:51.13 | prpplague | Sariel / NullMoogleCable leapfrog hired some con-man who told them, and i quote "freakin embedded linux genius", who basically put the who project into a tail spin |
| 21:51.33 | prpplague | Sariel: / NullMoogleCable at the last minute their hired cozybits to take over and save the project |
| 21:52.10 | prpplague | Sariel / NullMoogleCable by then they had some many hardware restrictions and short amount of time, they did all they could do to make it a viable product |
| 21:52.19 | prpplague | which i think they did pretty darn well |
| 21:52.45 | Sariel | oh yea |
| 21:52.47 | Sariel | definately |
| 21:52.47 | prpplague | checks the weather forcasts |
| 21:53.34 | Sariel | i love it when 'tards take control and mess the whole thing up |
| 21:54.00 | Sariel | then when they're fired they tell everyone that it wasnt their fault |
| 21:54.38 | Sariel | the sound on this thing is pretty good |
| 21:54.58 | Sariel | was scared about the res on the lcd but it really looks good |
| 21:55.05 | prpplague | Sariel: oh you got yours to boot? |
| 21:55.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.weather.com/weather/alerts/localalerts/76053?phenomena=WW&significance=Y&areaid=TXZ118&office=KFWD&etn=0003 |
| 21:55.33 | prpplague | Sariel: feel free to register at elinux.org and add info |
| 21:55.45 | Sariel | ok |
| 21:55.51 | Sariel | yea i got mine to boot |
| 21:56.08 | Sariel | running it off a lower ma power cord but its running fine |
| 21:56.18 | Sariel | rather less than more |
| 21:56.54 | CosmicPenguin | 1 - 3 inches is tramatic for you folks |
| 21:57.06 | wmat | yeah, feel free to contribute to elinux. I'll be coordinating a wiki BOF at ELC in April and the didj stuff will be great content to look at. |
| 21:57.26 | Sariel | sweet |
| 22:02.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, everything will be closed on friday i bet |
| 22:03.04 | prpplague | wmat: hehe, funny thing is, i have about 3 toys on my work bench right now that i need to hack around on |
| 22:03.32 | prpplague | declares himself King of hacking arm powered childrens toys |
| 22:04.54 | prpplague | T0mW`away: don't you have a bdi2000? |
| 22:04.54 | Sariel | lol |
| 22:05.25 | Sariel | last 'toy' i tried hacking around on was a sl-5500 |
| 22:05.41 | T0mW`away | prpplague: yessir |
| 22:06.08 | prpplague | T0mW: your version have support for PXA3xx ? |
| 22:06.26 | T0mW | prpplague: don't know if the firmware is current, the support is a bit pricey |
| 22:06.51 | prpplague | T0mW: yea that was what i was thinking, i've not updated mine in ages |
| 22:07.04 | prpplague | T0mW: thinking of trying to find something else for my higher end jtag |
| 22:08.16 | prpplague | T0mW: i ordered one of these http://www.hjtag.com to have a look at |
| 22:08.50 | T0mW | I think that I'm at 119 |
| 22:10.11 | T0mW | prpplague: sounds like a flyswatter |
| 22:10.26 | prpplague | T0mW: yea they are using a FPGA inside though |
| 22:10.30 | prpplague | T0mW: closed source |
| 22:10.44 | prpplague | T0mW: hoping maybe they are interested in getting openocd support for it |
| 22:11.57 | T0mW | I'm pretty satisfied with the bdi2000. It probably needs to be updated, but it works with the s3c2440 board I've got on the bench. PXAxxx is something I haven't had a need for, yet. |
| 22:12.03 | Sariel | im out guys, gotta get back to work |
| 22:12.04 | Sariel | later |
| 22:13.03 | T0mW | prpplague: what would be the difference for the pxa support. Isn't a "standard" boundry chain, etc.? |
| 22:13.36 | prpplague | T0mW: pxa3xx adds some new features for security stuff |
| 22:13.54 | prpplague | T0mW: i.e. cell phone hacking prevention |
| 22:14.02 | prpplague | T0mW: so the jtag has to have so "magic" |
| 22:14.12 | T0mW | mmm, nm, marvell could fsck with the command wordlen and that could bollox things. |
| 22:15.09 | T0mW | getting windy now, supposed to gust to 40MPH |
| 22:16.02 | prpplague | T0mW: is that after you've had some chilli ? |
| 22:16.26 | T0mW | time for cheese+crackers and more root beer |
| 22:17.19 | T0mW | prpplague: chili would be great right now, no, just leftover pot roast. |
| 22:18.13 | T0mW | finished insulating the floor on Monday, so, the house is snug and warm... |
| 22:18.33 | T0mW | let it snow, let it snow, let it snow! Just so long as the roof doesn't cave in... |
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| 22:21.24 | T0mW | prpplague: of course, they have the bdi3000 out now |
| 22:22.24 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 22:25.43 | T0mW | prpplague: what version firmware are you using? |
| 22:26.11 | prpplague | T0mW: atleast 2 years old maybe older |
| 22:26.19 | prpplague | T0mW: i'd have to get it out of the box to find out |
| 22:26.34 | prpplague | T0mW: i had planned to get rid of it and the lauterbach since i never use them |
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| 22:35.35 | T0mW | prpplague: it is going to be fun getting out of the house tomorrow, http://www.tomsnewhome.info/snow.jpg |
| 22:36.02 | prpplague | T0mW: jeeze |
| 22:36.18 | T0mW | heh, pretty much stopped now. |
| 22:36.20 | prpplague | T0mW: too bad you don't have a nice bajan woman to keep you warm |
| 22:36.33 | T0mW | LOL, there is always Michele |
| 22:37.02 | T0mW | prpplague: blonde nordic type |
| 22:37.28 | prpplague | T0mW: michele? |
| 22:37.43 | prpplague | T0mW: you got female company you didn't tell us about? |
| 22:42.14 | T0mW | prpplague: not permanent |
| 22:42.30 | T0mW | prpplague: it's nice to share |
| 22:42.42 | wmat | T0mW: that's quite the extensive documentation of your renos |
| 22:42.45 | wmat | very nice |
| 22:42.58 | prpplague | T0mW: short term lease eh? |
| 22:46.15 | prpplague | T0mW: does the jedi mind trick work on her so she will get you beer from the fridge? |
| 22:53.48 | NullMoogleCable | prpplague have you looked at the diji sorce yet fully? |
| 22:54.40 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: yea over a year ago |
| 22:54.50 | NullMoogleCable | best code comment ever |
| 22:54.51 | NullMoogleCable | set up the mtd partitions like in Linux. The CFG_JFFS_CUSTOM_PART feature appears to be unimplemented. Wouldn't it be great if we could simply have a list of partition sizes in the .config, instead of many individual partition sizes? |
| 22:54.58 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: i did a full build of angstrom for the didj using OE |
| 22:55.20 | NullMoogleCable | ever figure out the jtag? |
| 22:56.50 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: didn't need to after we figured out we could upload boot code via the uart |
| 22:57.30 | NullMoogleCable | cant you brick it though? |
| 22:59.22 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: generally not via software |
| 23:05.37 | T0mW | wmat: keeps me from getting depressed. Whenever I feel like I'm getting nothing accomplished, I read the website for a while. |
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| 23:44.16 | MonMotha | hum, anyone done DDR2 memory on a Spartan3E? Looks like it has the I/O capabilities (SSTL_18), but I see no public implementations of a controller, and numerous people saying (without much explanation) to "stick with plain DDR" |
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