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| 00:21.20 | prpplague | it is _STILL_ snowing |
| 00:22.29 | prpplague | http://i.imwx.com/web/radar/us_dfw_closeradar_plus_usen.jpg |
| 00:22.57 | solar | in texas.. Next brazil? |
| 00:25.02 | CosmicPenguin | Just wait until we get that gulf stream turned off |
| 00:26.55 | prpplague | it's one for the record books |
| 00:27.19 | prpplague | we are about to top 10 inces |
| 00:29.29 | solar | truely shocking. |
| 00:29.54 | solar | 54F today and I was thinking. brr it's chilly. But clearly I need to stfu |
| 00:31.40 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 01:22.57 | NullMoogleCable | prpplague do you know if didj carts can be reporogramed? |
| 01:29.34 | SpeedEvil | Anyone know anything in detail about wear leveling algorithgms on DS cards? |
| 01:29.38 | SpeedEvil | SS |
| 01:29.40 | SpeedEvil | SD even |
| 01:30.09 | SpeedEvil | I mean - the current implementation on commodity cards - not possible algorithms. |
| 01:31.53 | ohsix | its not in the spec & the oems do their own thing |
| 01:42.54 | SpeedEvil | I know. I was wondering if anyone had seen any detailled teardowns of what's typical. |
| 01:47.07 | Mirell | Lord. |
| 01:47.10 | Mirell | It's cold here. |
| 01:47.12 | Mirell | And sleeting. |
| 01:49.08 | SpeedEvil | No sleet here fortunately. |
| 01:49.17 | SpeedEvil | Been quite dry for the last little while. |
| 01:49.28 | SpeedEvil | ~-3C tho |
| 01:53.50 | SpeedEvil | http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg170028.html is interesting on that subject |
| 01:55.17 | ohsix | ah, nope; you can only guess really, density of the devices go up and down even for the same capacity for error correction and stuff |
| 01:55.56 | ohsix | the mtd stuff in the kernel works with raw flash; and the filesystems for it too, could get some sort of info from that |
| 01:57.59 | SpeedEvil | yeah, I know. |
| 01:58.31 | SpeedEvil | I'm really wishing that SD had a 'get out of my way and show me the raw device' mode. |
| 01:58.49 | SpeedEvil | To simplify having to second-guess what the algorithms might do. |
| 01:59.05 | SpeedEvil | For the purposes of trying to optimise swap to flash. |
| 01:59.16 | MonMotha | SpeedEvil: the gist of it is that 1) You don't know, and 2) it's probably really bad |
| 01:59.29 | SpeedEvil | yes. |
| 02:00.26 | SpeedEvil | The above thread implies that 1024 eraseblocks map to 1000 real blocks, with the blocks used in turn |
| 02:00.39 | SpeedEvil | so there is no cross-device leveling. |
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| 14:45.18 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:28.05 | prpplague | new all time record for snow |
| 15:28.07 | prpplague | 12.5" |
| 15:30.18 | chouimat | nice |
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| 15:38.13 | chouimat | prpplague: I got news about the job, it seems I have to wait 3 to 4 months before starting :( |
| 15:41.28 | g0 | Hi, I was just wrapping my head around busybox, for the first time... and came to know that my modem is a full-fledged busybox linux box, i've been using telnet to play with it... I was wondering if I could write an IRC logger and make it run on my modem even when the computer is off... like how do I compile something to run on there and copy it there. and stuff? :D (forgive my noob lingo) |
| 15:42.27 | ja2 | g0: Did you visit #openwrt? |
| 15:42.46 | g0 | uh.. no. i will and see |
| 15:42.57 | ja2 | There's also a www. |
| 15:43.43 | ja2 | www.openwrt.org |
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| 15:45.33 | g0 | oh, so can I replace busybox with openwrt? that would be awesome, but I am too scared to try it since this modem is the only way for me to connect to the internet |
| 15:47.24 | ja2 | g0: Can you get hold of another, second hand modem to experiment with? Brucking the things is supposedly easy. |
| 15:48.39 | ja2 | www.linksys.com have a bunch of opensource/easy to use modems. The wiki is good: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys |
| 15:49.36 | ja2 | Sometimes they're available at ebay. Sometimes prices are not good, because everyone seem to want one. |
| 15:49.40 | kergoth | g0: uh, openwrt is a Linux distribution. busybox is one of many applications typical in an embedded Linux distribution. you don't replace one with the other. busybox is also included in openwrt, last i checked. |
| 15:54.49 | g0 | ja2 I think i can get an old modem from a friend of the same make http://mumbai.mtnl.net.in/triband/htm/utstarusrguide1.0.pdf kergoth: thanks for the tip, I've started trying to know what distro it is running (uname isn't there... i'm kinda stuck) |
| 15:55.08 | kergoth | uname doesn't tell you about the distribution, only about the version of the kernel and architecture |
| 15:56.07 | g0 | these things have a version file somewhere? |
| 15:58.43 | ja2 | g0: Rule #1, backup first. Sometimes you can find version nr in .bin or .rom files. |
| 15:59.46 | ja2 | Searching for you modem type on the internet might give hints of what kind of software it runs. Sometimes the manufacturer have .bin/.rom files, for updating firmware available at thier sites. |
| 16:00.26 | ja2 | The guys at openwrt does this all day long. |
| 16:00.54 | g0 | sux |
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| 16:30.59 | SpeedEvil | Essentially all 'purchased' modems are custom own distributions. |
| 16:31.02 | SpeedEvil | modems/routers |
| 16:31.33 | ohsix | except some from buffalo :> |
| 16:31.37 | SpeedEvil | They may use busybox - busybox is however not a distribution, any more than a keyboard is a computer |
| 16:31.56 | SpeedEvil | And as a fraction of a percent of the market - that'd be what? :) |
| 16:32.31 | SpeedEvil | (though keyboards of course mostly are computers - but...) |
| 16:33.35 | SpeedEvil | some more than others |
| 16:33.38 | SpeedEvil | http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/07/31/apple-keyboard-firmware-hack-demonstrated/ |
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| 16:48.01 | Mirell | It is a Friday! |
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| 17:01.37 | NullMoogleCable | woot! |
| 17:21.46 | NullMoogleCable | hi |
| 17:22.07 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: did you need something? |
| 17:22.47 | NullMoogleCable | have you tried hacking the leapster yet? |
| 17:23.04 | prpplague | yea both the leapster and leapster2 |
| 17:23.37 | NullMoogleCable | any luck? |
| 17:25.15 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: no, there don't appear to be good candidates for hacking |
| 17:26.26 | NullMoogleCable | i got a leapster on ebay for 15$ with shipping :) |
| 17:29.01 | NullMoogleCable | and a starwars edition of the didj for 30$ :) |
| 17:36.09 | NullMoogleCable | have you played with the carts at all prpplague? |
| 17:37.00 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: yea, just a standard nand flash cart |
| 17:37.16 | NullMoogleCable | so you can reflash them? |
| 17:43.16 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: they are OTP nand flash |
| 17:43.29 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: or atleast all three of the ones i looked at were |
| 17:43.54 | NullMoogleCable | have you tried turning them into a manufaturer cart? |
| 17:45.06 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: i did not follow your question |
| 17:45.39 | NullMoogleCable | there is a way to make a 'Manufactureer" cart that does setup and testing things I belive |
| 17:52.55 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: i am not aware of that feature |
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| 17:57.45 | NullMoogleCable | ack i wish i wrote down more details |
| 18:05.37 | NullMoogleCable | in teh /usr/bin |
| 18:05.44 | NullMoogleCable | mkbase.sh |
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| 18:12.04 | NullMoogleCable | http://wtfmoogle.com/?page_id=741 |
| 18:12.15 | NullMoogleCable | trying to document all the programs pre installed |
| 18:12.23 | NullMoogleCable | and scripts |
| 18:16.38 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: you should use the elinux.org wiki |
| 18:17.17 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: why would you want to run uClinux when you can run linux? |
| 18:17.43 | NullMoogleCable | its just a random thought |
| 18:18.17 | NullMoogleCable | isnt too fluent with wiki coding |
| 18:18.25 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: easy as pie |
| 18:18.52 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: running uclinux on the didj would be a real waste of machine power |
| 18:19.16 | prpplague | grumbles at needing a copy of windows xp pro |
| 18:19.21 | NullMoogleCable | well technicly anything that will run on uclinux will run on the didj :) |
| 18:19.40 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: uh NO |
| 18:20.44 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: uClinux is a whole different item than linux |
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| 18:21.13 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: generally speaking arm7 and arm9 binaries for LINUX not uClinux will work on the didj |
| 18:21.23 | NullMoogleCable | X_z |
| 18:22.00 | NullMoogleCable | thats what i meant to say lol |
| 18:22.12 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: uclinux is primarily for processors that do not support memory mapping or paged memory(i.e. they don't have a MMU) |
| 18:23.02 | NullMoogleCable | ah |
| 18:23.13 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: since the arm926 that is in the Didj has an MMU, there is no need to run uclinux, it can run standard linux |
| 18:30.43 | NullMoogleCable | what is /Didj/ATAP ? |
| 18:32.24 | NullMoogleCable | O.O mkbase.sh can make a bare boot cartridge ! |
| 18:34.20 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: nice |
| 18:34.36 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: can you make a wiki page for that? |
| 18:34.42 | NullMoogleCable | and aparently it can be done with any cart |
| 18:34.43 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: or email the script so i can? |
| 18:36.33 | wmat | prpplague: btw, subpages is enabled on elinux.org now |
| 18:36.42 | wmat | wasn't sure if I mentioned that to you or not |
| 18:38.50 | NullMoogleCable | ummm prpplague i just got a cool email! |
| 18:39.15 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: breast enlargement pills? |
| 18:39.58 | NullMoogleCable | screens.tar.gz |
| 18:40.07 | NullMoogleCable | brio screens tools for LF1000 didj embedded side |
| 18:40.36 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: andrey |
| 18:40.40 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: sent it? |
| 18:41.32 | NullMoogleCable | http://en.pudn.com/search_db.asp?keyword=didj |
| 18:44.22 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: interesting |
| 18:44.46 | NullMoogleCable | i have one of my friends with vip emailing them to me :) |
| 18:47.45 | NullMoogleCable | ls |
| 18:57.05 | NullMoogleCable | usbctl -d mass_storage -a enable |
| 18:57.07 | NullMoogleCable | oops |
| 18:58.47 | NullMoogleCable | HOlly $#*T |
| 18:59.28 | NullMoogleCable | user-space i2c communication utility by Andrey Yurovsky <andrey@cozybit.com |
| 19:06.39 | NullMoogleCable | wait this is the same stuff as in the big linux source :( |
| 19:11.33 | NullMoogleCable | uploading the scripts to my website big zip though X_x |
| 19:11.46 | NullMoogleCable | http://wtfmoogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/scripts.zip |
| 19:11.59 | NullMoogleCable | all the stuff in the /usr/bin that was in my didj |
| 19:33.50 | prpplague | NullMoogleCable: nice find on the script |
| 19:34.07 | NullMoogleCable | ty |
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| 19:37.43 | prpplague | http://www.nbcdfw.com/weather/stories/Up-To-2-of-Snow-Expected-Thursday-84053662.html |
| 19:38.52 | NullMoogleCable | ok... |
| 19:39.01 | NullMoogleCable | so why is the /var folder read only? |
| 19:41.24 | NullMoogleCable | hmm /dev/root on / type jffs2 (ro) |
| 19:44.28 | NullMoogleCable | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.42 | NullMoogleCable | mount: mounting /dev/root on rw failed |
| 19:44.44 | NullMoogleCable | :( |
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| 19:47.16 | NullMoogleCable | ah -w |
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| 22:36.05 | NullMoogleCable | wow i must be hungery or something i can add 99 +6 lol |
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| 23:23.19 | ercani | while running a program in wince, can I run another program as transparent in front of first one? |
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