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| 00:52.51 | Mirell | Man. |
| 00:52.58 | Mirell | So damn glad I solved that memory issue. |
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| 01:13.38 | prpplague | GPSFan heyb ud |
| 01:13.44 | prpplague | GPSFan where ya been? |
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| 01:19.29 | Mirell | prpplague: So yah, use http://code.google.com/p/stressapptest/ |
| 01:19.45 | Mirell | prpplague: I will never trust memtest86 again |
| 01:38.31 | GPSFan | prpplague, hey how's it. been busy, and a trip to the "big city" today. been doing some z2 hacking. got usb host working... |
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| 10:23.01 | ercani | how can I decompile C++/CLI ? |
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| 14:37.22 | ja2 | Hi, anyone running Linux on cortex-M3 devices? |
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| 14:39.03 | prpplague | ja2: you would only be able to run uclinux on a cortex-m3 , not a full linux |
| 14:41.21 | ja2 | I see. Do you know of any cortex-M3 dev. boards with BSP? |
| 14:41.34 | ja2 | (for educational purposes) |
| 14:42.14 | prpplague | ja2: the luminary boards are very nice for educational |
| 14:42.48 | prpplague | ja2: if you are wanting to do linux dev, you will need something other than a cortex-m3 |
| 14:43.15 | ja2 | I want something small enough to be supported by a RTOS too. (eg. freeRTOS) |
| 14:43.30 | ja2 | There are many cool linux boards on the market. |
| 14:43.37 | prpplague | indeed |
| 14:44.00 | ja2 | But I can almost not find any with RTOS support. |
| 14:44.09 | prpplague | ja2: probably find a good arm720t board that has support for rtos and linux |
| 14:45.02 | prpplague | ja2: is there a list of supported RTOS processors? |
| 14:45.02 | prpplague | googles |
| 14:45.06 | ja2 | www.freertos.org and click, uhm, ports or something |
| 14:46.09 | prpplague | ja2: yea looks like they don't really support any processors that have MMU |
| 14:46.21 | prpplague | ja2: so getting a board that supports both might be problematic |
| 14:47.12 | ja2 | Yes. Indeed. The ports that have MMU (eg. AVR32AP7000) are not in the "mainline" freeRTOS. |
| 14:47.55 | ja2 | And it would be nice with some kind of BSP. |
| 14:49.29 | T0mW | just noticed that elinux discusses WinCE |
| 14:49.34 | T0mW | stares at Dave |
| 14:52.00 | prpplague | T0mW: yea yea |
| 14:52.15 | T0mW | I said 'stare' not 'glare' |
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| 14:52.16 | prpplague | T0mW: when i was doing all that wince dev for AML |
| 14:52.19 | T0mW | heh |
| 14:52.37 | prpplague | lordy lordy |
| 14:52.42 | prpplague | is stressed today |
| 14:52.43 | T0mW | 'stare' == something you do to something you find a bit odd |
| 14:52.59 | T0mW | prpplague: time for a mental health day off |
| 14:53.27 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, working on a major long term contract, trying to get all the paperwork in order |
| 14:53.38 | prpplague | T0mW: probably take atleast another 2 weeks to finish up |
| 14:53.38 | T0mW | prpplague: I had one artery blockage in my heart due to 3 months of tremendous stress. |
| 14:54.20 | prpplague | T0mW: i avoid problems like that by going to the nudie bar |
| 14:54.24 | T0mW | heh |
| 14:54.44 | T0mW | best stress relief is when some babe sits in your lap |
| 14:54.46 | ja2 | T0mW: How does one of those blockage feel like? |
| 14:55.01 | T0mW | ja2: they are different for everyone |
| 14:56.08 | T0mW | ja2: I got what felt like pinching in both shoulder blades. It was like someone was using vise-grip clamps |
| 14:56.41 | T0mW | ja2: both times |
| 14:56.43 | prpplague | T0mW: i have that same feeling when i see my wife's credit card bills |
| 14:56.53 | T0mW | :P |
| 14:57.00 | ja2 | T0mW: ouch, twice. |
| 14:57.11 | T0mW | ja2: 7 months apart |
| 14:57.53 | T0mW | thats why I know it was stress, the radio-graphs the doc took the first go-around showed only a 5% blockage. |
| 14:58.07 | T0mW | 7 months later it was 90% blocked |
| 14:58.21 | ja2 | gee, 10 more and off you had gone. |
| 14:59.51 | T0mW | I'm working up the energy to go back into perl... |
| 15:00.28 | T0mW | prpplague: still doing that code-conversion project. Almost to the point of a clean compile. |
| 15:00.36 | prpplague | T0mW: nice |
| 15:00.42 | T0mW | lotta work |
| 15:00.59 | prpplague | T0mW: i'm looking forward to doing this long term project |
| 15:01.16 | T0mW | debug is going to be "interesting", the guy used a lot of "tricks" with his code. |
| 15:01.17 | prpplague | T0mW: think it will have some very good rewards besides the $$ |
| 15:01.24 | prpplague | T0mW: uh |
| 15:01.28 | T0mW | yeah |
| 15:01.28 | prpplague | T0mW: ugh |
| 15:01.38 | prpplague | T0mW: i hate it when people do that |
| 15:02.17 | prpplague | T0mW: as a side note, rusty and i are discussing dropping the price of the remaining hammer inventory so we can liquidate it |
| 15:02.21 | T0mW | interesting how one project can lead into another one with the code experience. Even a few years later you find that something you doodled with expands out into something interesting. |
| 15:02.34 | prpplague | yea |
| 15:02.46 | prpplague | this is a pretty up and comming tech |
| 15:02.57 | ja2 | prpplague: You're responsible for the hammer kit? |
| 15:03.15 | prpplague | yea, partners on it |
| 15:03.15 | T0mW | heh, seems like I'm stuck with 8 and 16 bit stuff lately |
| 15:03.30 | T0mW | not so much 8 bit anymore |
| 15:03.50 | ja2 | prpplague: I've been looking at the hammer. You dont happen to have a port of freeRTOS to it? |
| 15:03.51 | T0mW | I just don't want to do that work anymore (8 bit) |
| 15:04.00 | prpplague | ja2: sorry no |
| 15:04.04 | ja2 | :) |
| 15:04.16 | prpplague | ja2: the hammer was always geared towards running linux |
| 15:04.54 | ja2 | prpplague: How big is the remaining inventory, and how much did you imagine dropping the price? |
| 15:05.57 | prpplague | ja2: we haven't finished running the numbers but i think we have about 100 left and we were thinking of $99 |
| 15:06.57 | ja2 | That's not the complete kit, is it? |
| 15:07.06 | prpplague | no just the hammer board |
| 15:07.23 | prpplague | the kit would drop price as well |
| 15:07.52 | prpplague | the kit would be $199 |
| 15:08.15 | ja2 | Its a fair price. |
| 15:08.29 | prpplague | the nail board would drop as well |
| 15:08.57 | T0mW | ja2: It would seem to me that if you kept the MMU disabled, it would merely be a question of configuring FreeRTOS to the processor opcodes? |
| 15:09.51 | prpplague | T0mW: as far as the core yes, but the thing is with the freeRTOS a bunch of the stuff is optomized for the gpio and controller interfaces |
| 15:09.55 | T0mW | I had a client put FreeRTOS on an i348 processor, that had an MMU. Initially, I put Linux on it for him but he had some bootup / recovery requirements that could not be met with Linux. |
| 15:10.11 | T0mW | Later, he told me that he had switched it over to FreeRTOS. |
| 15:10.36 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, so it is just the I/O |
| 15:11.07 | ja2 | T0mW: Yes. Maybe it doesnt imply much work. But spending a few extra hours finding a dev. board where that is already done can reduce my heart-pain a bit :) |
| 15:12.03 | T0mW | It sounds to me like what you would have to do is look for a good matchup between the subsystems on the SOC and what device drivers FreeRTOS has implemented elsewhere? |
| 15:14.13 | T0mW | maybe not get them all, e.g. a EN28J60 might not "be there", but all the rest are. |
| 15:14.30 | T0mW | ja2: agreed |
| 15:14.53 | T0mW | ja2: at least you would have someone to yell at if it don't work |
| 15:14.54 | T0mW | heh |
| 15:15.17 | ja2 | Yeah, that would kill me :) |
| 15:20.28 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 15:20.51 | prpplague | tries to calm down and focus |
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| 15:30.30 | pytey_ | prpplague: what is the secret to getting the bloody orange caps off then end of the tube? |
| 15:30.33 | pytey_ | :) |
| 15:30.57 | prpplague | pytey_: for the nail board? |
| 15:31.02 | GPSFan | prpplague, hey how's it. I've been busy, and a trip to the "big city" yesterday. been doing some z2 hacking. got usb host working.. |
| 15:31.11 | prpplague | GPSFan: ahh nice |
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| 15:31.59 | GPSFan | prpplague, lotsa other problems with bit-rotting code & newer kernels, and u-boot doesn't like my Toshiba sd cards ;>( |
| 15:32.02 | pytey_ | prpplague: yep, I'm mostly joking, the tubes are ditched in a box somewhere, but I came across the empty tubes today actually :) |
| 15:32.21 | pytey_ | (caps even) |
| 15:32.50 | prpplague | pytey_: yea, i used a small metal plate on one end that i could screw into the plastic to help remove the cap |
| 15:33.21 | prpplague | pytey_: the problem with the nail board was that i should have designed it to fit inside an off the shelf case from pactec or someone like that |
| 15:33.43 | pytey_ | It is a cool board |
| 15:33.49 | pytey_ | I have a couple of them |
| 15:33.55 | pytey_ | nice work! |
| 15:33.57 | pytey_ | :) |
| 15:34.13 | CosmicPenguin | So, at what point in the midst of an email lecture to me about how to deal with the community is it acceptable for me to reply with "git log | egrep "Author.*Crouse" | wc"? |
| 15:36.07 | GPSFan | CosmicPenguin, probably at the same time you that you provide results from "git log | egrep "Author.""whoever is lecturing you" | wc" |
| 15:36.49 | pytey_ | prpplague: although I had a minor mishap removing one of the hammers from a hammer carrier, the high quality turned IC sockets and pin headers are not to sympathetic to fat fingers |
| 15:36.57 | pytey_ | :) |
| 15:37.03 | CosmicPenguin | Huh - fair enough - assuming its the same guy he has me beat |
| 15:37.46 | GPSFan | CosmicPenguin, well yes, no sense trying to beat a dead horse with a dead camel. |
| 15:38.19 | prpplague | pytey_: indeed, we discussed using zif sockets |
| 15:38.45 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan: well, i probably will anyway, because thats what I do |
| 15:39.38 | pytey_ | prpplague: I've put a nylon strap under it now, easy to remove |
| 15:39.47 | GPSFan | CosmicPenguin, so how's life at the big "Q"? you ever get to go to san diego hq? |
| 15:39.51 | prpplague | pytey_: ahh nice idea |
| 15:42.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: imho arguing about community procedures and such is like arguing with a tarot card reader about if it is real or not |
| 15:43.43 | solar | anybody going to scale this weekend? |
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| 15:45.27 | sjhill | anyone ever debug general protection faults? |
| 15:46.30 | prpplague | sjhill: i haven;t had any of those to debug in years |
| 15:46.37 | prpplague | sjhill: used kgdb |
| 15:46.43 | prpplague | sjhill: and gdb |
| 15:48.12 | sjhill | yeah, will use gdb tonight |
| 15:48.39 | sjhill | the plan is to set some breakpoints right before the offending instruction |
| 15:48.42 | sjhill | dump the registers |
| 15:48.51 | sjhill | then continue and dump again |
| 15:49.26 | sjhill | then compare to a good run |
| 16:04.13 | prpplague | sjhill: sounds like a plan |
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| 16:22.50 | prpplague | good lord, i have to have a background check |
| 16:23.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you have to get one for qualcomm? |
| 16:38.59 | chouimat | morning |
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| 16:55.52 | prpplague | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGx-3t8CJ-k |
| 17:00.25 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe |
| 17:01.55 | prpplague | needs to chill |
| 17:03.14 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, of course |
| 17:03.49 | CosmicPenguin | Heck, I had to have a background check to appear on a stupid basic cable cooking show |
| 17:05.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 17:05.30 | NullMoogleCable | prpplague lmao! |
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| 17:23.55 | Crofton | CosmicPe1guin, who decided you needed to be educated abobut community behavior |
| 17:25.07 | prpplague | Crofton: one of the other qualcomm kernel devrs |
| 17:25.14 | prpplague | Crofton: or atleast that is what i gathered |
| 17:25.22 | Crofton | interesting |
| 17:25.59 | CosmicPe1guin | Stupid qualcomm - server is angry |
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| 17:35.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: re |
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| 17:41.12 | Mirell | Daaaamn |
| 17:41.30 | Mirell | http://www.kvue.com/news/local/Plane-crashes-into-Northwest-Austin-building-84704727.html |
| 17:54.02 | T0mW | bangs head on desk |
| 17:55.04 | T0mW | wonders what the bright yellow thing is in the sky |
| 17:56.21 | T0mW | Mirell: rule #1 of flying, don't argue with gf |
| 18:01.59 | chouimat | T0mW: nah it's rule #1 of life: your gf is always right ... |
| 18:02.09 | T0mW | lol |
| 18:02.39 | T0mW | chouimat: like they say, you wanna be right or do you wanna be happy? |
| 18:02.45 | chouimat | T0mW: a man alone in the forest is still wrong according to his gf |
| 18:03.09 | chouimat | T0mW: true |
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| 19:41.38 | alex4nder | hey |
| 19:55.40 | florian | hi alex4nder |
| 19:58.20 | alex4nder | how's it? |
| 20:00.50 | florian | busy like always :) |
| 20:01.00 | alex4nder | cool |
| 20:31.34 | roxfan | http://www.pitchengine.com/arm/globalfoundries-and-arm-define-the-standard-for-mobile-technology-platform-innovation-at-mwc-2010/46623/ |
| 20:31.43 | roxfan | hmm 28nm cortex-a9 |
| 20:32.23 | prpplague | wow |
| 20:32.25 | prpplague | 28nm ? |
| 20:33.41 | roxfan | GLOBALFOUNDRIES expects to start production on these next-generation technologies in 2H 2010 at Fab 1 in Dresden, Germany. |
| 20:36.19 | roxfan | well, i guess we should be happy at least one company is not following the all_lowercase naming trend |
| 20:37.48 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:40.55 | alex4nder | haha |
| 20:44.42 | NullMoogleCable | prpplague i found something neat out |
| 20:45.15 | NullMoogleCable | gen 1 of the leapster 1 has no internal game, gen 2 of leapster 1 does! |
| 20:46.42 | prpplague | cute |
| 22:23.23 | T0mW | heh, http://poconos.craigslist.org/zip/1606800333.html |
| 22:24.21 | prpplague | is totally stressed today |
| 22:24.51 | T0mW | prpplague: nudie bar |
| 22:24.54 | prpplague | T0mW: oh that would be cool to have hooked up to an atmega |
| 22:25.23 | prpplague | T0mW: i can _not_ believe all the paperwork i've had to fill out for TI |
| 22:25.29 | T0mW | heh |
| 22:25.50 | T0mW | It will probably only get worse as you go along, meetings too. |
| 22:25.53 | prpplague | no i have to go and do the "pee in the cup" stuff |
| 22:26.03 | T0mW | ha |
| 22:26.37 | T0mW | "we don't need no stinking druggie consultants working for us!" |
| 22:27.07 | prpplague | indeed |
| 22:27.37 | prpplague | T0mW: plus i'm totally stressed out about a bunch of clients not paying on time |
| 22:27.45 | T0mW | first I've heard of that. I did have to pass a background check for one client... |
| 22:27.58 | prpplague | T0mW: yea had to do that too |
| 22:29.17 | T0mW | prpplague: time to live off the cash advance line of your credit card |
| 22:29.30 | T0mW | which sux |
| 22:29.55 | kergoth | better to just keep a large emergency fund :) rates on those cash advances are disgusting |
| 22:30.03 | T0mW | nod |
| 22:30.10 | prpplague | T0mW: i can pay the bills, but it leaves nothing left over and i feel totally panicked wihen that happens |
| 22:30.17 | T0mW | lol |
| 22:30.45 | prpplague | i don't like living on the edge with my money |
| 22:30.59 | T0mW | the danger that I have is when I finally get a bunch of money and feel 'rich'. I have to control my spending. |
| 22:31.20 | prpplague | yea, my problem is i let too much money go on long terms |
| 22:31.37 | prpplague | as of this morning i have about $65k in outstanding invoices |
| 22:31.43 | T0mW | getting in $10K or more is nice to see in the bank account, but, I have to remember that doesn't happen every month |
| 22:31.49 | kergoth | recommends either the fully automated 80% solution advised by ramit sethi in his book, or the use of envelope budgeting (i.e. youneedabudget.com or mvelopes.com) |
| 22:32.55 | T0mW | prpplague: well, if you survive this, you will have learned something about invoicing and specifying payment terms in your contracts. |
| 22:33.08 | prpplague | T0mW: yea already learned |
| 22:33.24 | T0mW | you don't pay me, I stop working for you until I get a payment. |
| 22:33.49 | T0mW | and I tell them when that happens |
| 22:34.05 | prpplague | T0mW: this one company has been promising to wire transfer payment since thursday of last week |
| 22:34.11 | T0mW | so they cannot say "we didn't know there was a problem" |
| 22:35.16 | prpplague | yea |
| 22:35.25 | T0mW | prpplague: unfortunately, your only recourse might be to get a judgement against them if they don't pay up. that way it will show up on the corporate credit report. |
| 22:36.08 | T0mW | hey, too many lawyers out there without work. I'm sure you can find one of them with reaonable rates. |
| 22:36.12 | prpplague | yea, i still have alot of the source for their project, i was waiting for final payment |
| 22:36.21 | T0mW | good |
| 22:38.02 | T0mW | usually, I've found that the 30% down, 30% on delivery and balance upon acceptance works to keep the riff-raff away. especially the 30% down. |
| 22:38.41 | T0mW | that 40% is their hook to make sure I cleanup any issues and they get their IP |
| 22:39.05 | T0mW | I've found that if they paid me that 60%, they will follow through |
| 22:40.57 | prpplague | well i should be good with this TI for atleast 6 months and probably longer |
| 22:50.00 | prpplague | wonders if he would get in trouble if he ran through the parking lot naked and screaming............... |
| 22:51.08 | SpeedEvil | With or without a chicken? |
| 22:54.17 | Crofton | prpplague, after the contract is signed |
| 22:59.37 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: i'm thinking with either a chicken or maybe a large teddy bear |
| 23:00.25 | T0mW | either way, they would still charge you with Bestiality |
| 23:00.36 | T0mW | :P |
| 23:01.01 | T0mW | prpplague: maybe you could get the rest you need then, in some institution |
| 23:01.51 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 23:02.15 | prpplague | they're coming to take me away ha ha, they're coming to take me away ho ho..... |
| 23:02.22 | Crofton | anyone know of any good examples of drivers using dma? |
| 23:02.24 | T0mW | prpplague: when you're 15 years old, they think you just need to be told what the deal is. When you are over 40... |
| 23:03.10 | prpplague | Crofton: most of the examples i know of are either framebuffer or audio, either way they aren't exact simple examples to use |
| 23:04.17 | Crofton | at what point are you better off using dma to copy to device, over using memcpy |
| 23:04.20 | Crofton | buf size |
| 23:05.14 | prpplague | Crofton: cosmic might have some more robust input on that question, but imho, the main key is the latency, items like audio and video are updated so quickly that dma is really the only effective way of doing i |
| 23:05.57 | prpplague | Crofton: i'm a stick in the mud in that i much prefer using fifo and/or memcpy operations when possible |
| 23:06.03 | Crofton | heh |
| 23:06.14 | Crofton | yeah, we do not want to burn cpu time doing the copy |
| 23:06.21 | Crofton | it will have better things to do |
| 23:07.11 | prpplague | Crofton: yea, if it is an operation that will be constantly updated and the datasize is more than a few k , you'd be good with dma |
| 23:07.30 | Crofton | I think I'm just going to make a pool of 2K buffers |
| 23:07.41 | Crofton | and dma them in/out |
| 23:08.15 | Crofton | even better if I could get stuff all the way into user space |
| 23:08.39 | Crofton | but, I suspect I will write something that works, then worry about making it good |
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| 23:10.54 | ercani | hi |
| 23:12.32 | ercani | running a software in rom area can read a text file that is in SD card then write it into a text file in the rom |
| 23:12.34 | ercani | ? |
| 23:14.02 | roxfan | "text file in the rom"? o.O |
| 23:14.07 | T0mW | ercani: depends on sectoring of the Flash |
| 23:14.28 | ercani | text is in the rom |
| 23:14.46 | ercani | os is in the rom area |
| 23:14.58 | T0mW | ercani: so, what is your question? |
| 23:15.47 | ercani | running a program in rom area to read text from sd card then write it in a text file in the rom |
| 23:16.42 | prpplague | ercani: ROM is "Read Only Memory" |
| 23:17.03 | prpplague | ercani: are you asking about having a program running from flash, read data from a sd card and write it back to flash? |
| 23:17.15 | ercani | program is in the rom area |
| 23:17.35 | roxfan | what is your system anyway? |
| 23:17.41 | ercani | wince |
| 23:17.55 | roxfan | should have started with that |
| 23:18.50 | roxfan | are you wring a usermode program? |
| 23:18.57 | ercani | my program is in the rom area under wince |
| 23:19.00 | prpplague | ercani: i'm the only persone here that has wince experience and not much at that |
| 23:20.07 | ercani | say you wrote a software and installed it inth rom |
| 23:20.19 | ercani | you have updates |
| 23:21.42 | prpplague | ercani: the wince rom images are basically the equivilant of linux ramdisks |
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| 23:22.09 | prpplague | ercani: when the power of the device is turned off the memory is cleared |
| 23:22.21 | prpplague | ercani: when the device is powered on, the rom is reloaded into memory |
| 23:22.45 | ercani | that means text file goes to empty ?? |
| 23:23.04 | prpplague | ercani: if you copied the text file to the rom, yes |
| 23:23.35 | ercani | not copy. there is already a text file. I just want to write to end of line |
| 23:24.10 | prpplague | ercani: if the text file is already there in the rom, it will be there after a reboot, however any changes you make to the file will not |
| 23:24.59 | ercani | then how can I do ? |
| 23:26.34 | prpplague | ercani: wince uses a method of storing changes to some media such as flash. this is done via the registry |
| 23:27.18 | ercani | for ex. music player playlist file |
| 23:27.36 | ercani | where is it stored ? |
| 23:27.37 | prpplague | ercani: basically during startup the normal rom is copied into ram, then any specific changes are additions are copied from the flash over the top of the rom image |
| 23:28.11 | prpplague | ercani: for that kind of thing, you probably want to have a flash partition formated for fat32 so you can store music and playlists |
| 23:28.39 | ercani | yes i will have partition |
| 23:28.53 | ercani | that partition will be seen by user ? |
| 23:29.23 | prpplague | ercani: should be |
| 23:29.43 | ercani | I want it as hidden |
| 23:29.47 | ercani | possible ? |
| 23:30.10 | prpplague | ercani: yep, you can change the registry settings to make the partition not visible to the user |
| 23:30.25 | ercani | ok clear |
| 23:30.35 | ercani | one more thing |
| 23:30.49 | ercani | can we run perl scripts in wince ? |
| 23:31.52 | prpplague | ercani: uh probably, but it will take an act of god to get it working |
| 23:32.15 | ercani | oh.. |
| 23:32.19 | roxfan | http://perlce.sourceforge.net/ |
| 23:33.20 | ercani | reading.. |
| 23:35.11 | ercani | it says 1 mb dll takes 1 sec |
| 23:35.46 | ercani | there is a perl.dll |
| 23:36.30 | ercani | so it can be installed in rom |
| 23:39.56 | ercani | wince has a script language ? |
| 23:45.58 | roxfan | not really |
| 23:46.14 | roxfan | there are some tricks you can do with cab files |
| 23:54.59 | ercani | what tricks ? |
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