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| 15:52.18 | Mirell | Hmm...apparently everyone was dead Tuesday. |
| 15:57.34 | Mirell | prpplague: You still dead? |
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| 17:19.26 | CosmicPenguin | http://twitter.com/landley - I admit, the Meego from Espoo was funny |
| 17:19.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:21.21 | CosmicPenguin | We have an office in Espoo - apparently the airport is ... small. You get off the plane and walk to the street and hail a cab, thats about it |
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| 20:09.56 | sjhill | so this is my first time with pivot root |
| 20:10.00 | sjhill | i pivoted fine |
| 20:10.07 | sjhill | to a ramdisk |
| 20:10.19 | sjhill | i cannot unmount /old/dev |
| 20:10.31 | sjhill | the old dev directory says it is busy |
| 20:10.47 | sjhill | i'm guessing because of the /dev/ram0 usage from right before i did the pivot |
| 20:10.49 | sjhill | not sure |
| 20:10.52 | sjhill | anyone have some ideas? |
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| 22:38.15 | *** topic/#edev is Discussion of embedded systems (Hardware/Software/Linux/WinCE/Commercial Device Repurposing) : Firmware Linux (FWL) : Busybox and Buildroot : Ponies : http://www.elinux.org |
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| 23:28.20 | MonMotha | are there any reasonably priced in low volume ARM system-on-module solutions that have an LCD controller? |
| 23:28.35 | MonMotha | ability to run Linux a (big) plus, but not strictly required |
| 23:28.44 | MonMotha | heck, ARM isn't strictly required |
| 23:29.41 | roxfan | i think most(all?) freescale imx chips have an lcd controllers but not sure about pricing |
| 23:30.20 | roxfan | i've also heard someone complaining that they need complex power circuitry |
| 23:31.14 | nullpuppy | MonMotha: what are you looking for exactly? the beagleboard offers something like that ($150 per board). |
| 23:34.51 | roxfan | lowest imx seems to be mx21, 14 bucks at digikey |
| 23:35.35 | roxfan | hm, nxp has some arm9 with lcd controllers too |
| 23:36.57 | roxfan | LPC3230, 12 bucks |
| 23:37.14 | MonMotha | nullpuppy: I'm looking for something more designed to be integrated into a larger system. Beagle is also too expensive. |
| 23:37.19 | MonMotha | BGA is out of the question |
| 23:37.29 | MonMotha | otherwise, I'm open to bare chips |
| 23:37.54 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: there are a number of them |
| 23:37.58 | MonMotha | I could look into getting a "smart LCD" (framebuffer on board), but boy are those expensive |
| 23:38.10 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: all depends on the performance and options you want |
| 23:38.14 | MonMotha | _prpplague_: I've had the hardest time finding an ARM with LCD controller in QFP |
| 23:38.28 | MonMotha | couple 100MHz, 32-64MB flash/ram should be fine |
| 23:38.35 | roxfan | what kind of lcd btw? |
| 23:38.35 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: try the nxp/sharp bluestreak series |
| 23:39.02 | _prpplague_ | the lh79 series should still be available in qfp |
| 23:39.02 | MonMotha | I should be a TFT, so the standard clocked RGB interface. No need for STN driving. |
| 23:39.20 | MonMotha | I'd like to avoid lots of software porting if possible, which is why I was looking for modules |
| 23:39.36 | MonMotha | I'm literally making 1 |
| 23:39.44 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: yea, have a look at that |
| 23:39.52 | roxfan | http://ics.nxp.com/products/lh7/ |
| 23:39.55 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: iirc the avr32 is available in qfp as well |
| 23:40.05 | MonMotha | AVR32 AP7 is EOL, now |
| 23:40.27 | MonMotha | they apparently plan to bring it back but have been swamped with UC3 demand |
| 23:41.20 | MonMotha | yeah, looks like NXP has some stuff |
| 23:41.21 | roxfan | hm, LH79520 is lqfp-176 |
| 23:41.30 | roxfan | System-on-Chip with ARM720T microcontroller, 32KB SRAM, LCD controller up to true color or SVGA, |
| 23:41.38 | MonMotha | my hope was to find something that would be easy to get Linux up and running on so I can just tell the GUI person to have at it |
| 23:42.12 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: yea have a look at te lh79520 |
| 23:42.42 | MonMotha | looks like they also have one with an ethernet MAC, and that could be handy |
| 23:43.53 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: yea, the 79524 should be available in qfp as well |
| 23:43.57 | MonMotha | Linux run on these things? |
| 23:44.01 | MonMotha | I'm not seeing much activity |
| 23:45.16 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha, i don't think the 79525 is available in qfp |
| 23:45.20 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: of course |
| 23:45.34 | _prpplague_ | did a bunch of the support for the LH7952x |
| 23:45.46 | MonMotha | yeah, I notice APEX had that series as the original target |
| 23:45.53 | MonMotha | is support being maintained, though? |
| 23:46.08 | _prpplague_ | not very strongly |
| 23:46.15 | MonMotha | yeah, that's what I was afraid of |
| 23:46.18 | _prpplague_ | but it wouldn't take much to get it up to speed |
| 23:46.25 | MonMotha | I can't spend much time getting it up and running |
| 23:46.41 | _prpplague_ | http://www.elinux.org/Pixter_Multimedia |
| 23:46.45 | MonMotha | is X still broken in buildroot? |
| 23:46.48 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: yea |
| 23:46.54 | MonMotha | figures |
| 23:47.07 | MonMotha | and qt/e still is not free (in any way), right? |
| 23:47.33 | _prpplague_ | http://www.elinux.org/TvNow |
| 23:48.04 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: they are great chips, just sharp and nxp didn't do a good job marketing them |
| 23:48.11 | MonMotha | gotcha |
| 23:48.53 | MonMotha | it's too bad X is still busted in buildroot and none of the free toolkits really support rendering directly to the FB |
| 23:49.20 | MonMotha | I'd rather not futz with OE |
| 23:49.22 | _prpplague_ | MonMotha: yea, you'd have to do an oe build |
| 23:49.38 | ohsix | doesn't gtk still have a thing in gdk for targeting directfb and just a plain framebuffer? |
| 23:49.53 | MonMotha | am I correct in there being no free (as in beer and linkable to proprietary apps) toolkit for directly drawing to the FB? |
| 23:50.50 | ohsix | twin has a framebuffer driver, its a bit raw though :> |
| 23:51.02 | MonMotha | well, I'm not writing the GUI :) |
| 23:51.17 | MonMotha | that said, the person doing the GUI will probably want a real-ish toolkit |
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