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| 03:41.08 | styol | oOo is this the place for repurposing embedded devices?! i just may be in luck... |
| 03:41.52 | styol | looking for any general guidance on how to backup the contents of a flash drive prior to formatting, in this specific instance i have a cheap $90 netbook that comes with windows CE and an ARM processor, id like to backup Windows CE just in case and try to install Angstrom or some other streamlined linux OS for embedded devices |
| 03:42.15 | styol | any guidance would *rock* |
| 03:44.21 | djerome | styol, does the netbook have a usb it can boot from? |
| 03:45.58 | styol | djerome im not entirely sure it can boot frmo USB, it has several USB's but the one bootable USB stick i have doesnt for instance autostart or anything like on other computers... may have to try my similar approach with the SD card / reader |
| 03:46.00 | styol | so far i've got "F1 to update the system" at boot, asks for password, its ztk, then it gives me the options to format nand disk, format xip disk, format flash2 disk, update xip, update eboot |
| 03:48.46 | djerome | i think you first want to find a way to boot an arm linux from usb. how big is the flash drive? |
| 03:49.10 | styol | 2gb nand flash |
| 03:50.07 | styol | yeah actually this bootable USB os is totally not meant for ARM, dur.. that would likely be a first step in the right direction |
| 03:50.19 | styol | any suggestion on how to retrieve/copy the current contents of the flash so i can potentially restore later? |
| 03:50.25 | styol | or shall i just call that not an option |
| 03:50.36 | djerome | i'm thinking if you can boot a linux from usb you can dd the nand flash contents to a file on the usb drive. |
| 03:50.48 | styol | whats dd |
| 03:51.03 | styol | ah yeah that makes sense, its what ive done for other computers |
| 03:51.25 | styol | now to try remeber what utility i used to make a disk image be a bootable USB stick... i think it was ubuntu related |
| 03:52.00 | djerome | well, that depends on how the device boots. i dunno arm systems |
| 03:52.21 | styol | yeah thats the thing, i dont think they have a BIOS so to speak so theres not like a boot menu |
| 03:52.44 | djerome | you can put an arm linux on a usb stick, but i dunno what sort of startup it has to boot the kernel |
| 03:55.21 | styol | i know i previously used xp and a utility to make a bootable usb stick, but do you think this will work ok on osx? i notice it mentions dd also hehe http://blog.scottlowe.org/2009/01/08/creating-a-bootable-esxi-usb-stick-on-mac-os-x/ |
| 03:57.20 | djerome | you've made images on the usb drives that are compatible with the machines "bios" start boot process |
| 03:57.52 | styol | ah this is what i used on windows: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:58.00 | djerome | they are interchangable between such different machines |
| 03:59.49 | djerome | that puts x86 boot code on the usb drive in an iso bootable format |
| 04:00.04 | djerome | not what your arm machine wants |
| 04:01.26 | styol | ok cool thanks for letting me know thats specifically not what i want, this usb stick i did try was done with that |
| 04:01.35 | styol | so i should try something like the first link yeah? |
| 04:02.48 | djerome | ah. i think that puts x86 code on a usb drive in an iso bootable format too |
| 04:03.15 | djerome | what specifically is this machine you have |
| 04:10.10 | styol | EPC-702 - ARM926EJ-S |
| 04:10.41 | styol | on the sticker says CPU AK7802 but at boot it says ARM 926EJ-S -- http://img.vishun.com/IMG_0759.JPG |
| 04:10.56 | djerome | i have a small linux system i'd like to build for it, but i have no idea how to boot it... |
| 04:11.19 | styol | yeah same here hehe |
| 04:11.39 | djerome | does this look like the same sort of startup: http://shabadage.blogspot.com/2009/12/found-model-and-update-info.html |
| 04:11.54 | styol | yup |
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| 04:12.08 | styol | lanyu ive seen mentioned on other sites selling the same device |
| 04:13.44 | djerome | what does the "Update XIP" do? |
| 04:15.13 | styol | fails |
| 04:15.22 | styol | finding some nuggets... http://www.arm.com/community/software-enablement/linux.php |
| 04:17.16 | djerome | things to boot? http://ttylinux.org/ |
| 04:27.53 | djerome | after a little research it seems that booting something else on oneof those is hard. good luck. |
| 04:40.42 | styol | yeah hrm haha |
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