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| 01:21.03 | landley | In the process of renaming Firmware Linux to Aboriginal Linux. |
| 01:21.28 | landley | So many different places the name needs to change. Domain, mailing list, repository, documentation, web pages... |
| 01:23.26 | landley | Oh, congrats to the uclibc guys for finally getting NPTL in the main repo, and sported on x86 and ppc and such, after 6 years. :) |
| 01:23.32 | landley | supported. |
| 01:23.37 | landley | I need to get the cat hair out of my "u" key. |
| 01:23.55 | Mirell | You just need a new laptop. |
| 01:24.06 | landley | Out of morbid curiosity, why does my name have a star but prpplague's doesn't? |
| 01:24.31 | landley | Mirell: yeah, but that's at least fifth down on the list of "things to spend money on now that I have a new day job". |
| 01:24.32 | Mirell | Because he is not opped. |
| 01:24.50 | landley | Mirell: I'm aware of that. What I'm wondering is why I get opped but he doesn't. |
| 01:24.56 | landley | I was under the vague impression he owned the channel. :) |
| 01:25.29 | Mirell | landley: Yes, any number of reasons, he didn't identify his nickname with this particular connection, services got restarted, he de-opped himself. |
| 01:25.38 | landley | shrugs... |
| 01:25.39 | Mirell | landley: It's nothing to spend more than perhaps half a second of thought on. |
| 01:25.51 | landley | I ponder strange things. It's what I do. |
| 01:26.01 | Mirell | It's not strange. |
| 01:26.32 | Mirell | Wondering why you always seem to lose half a sock, or why if you stare enough into the sky, you see tiny dust spaceshops, |
| 01:26.35 | landley | hmmm, I should do a rewrite rule so http://aboriginal.impactlinux.com/hg brings up the mercurial repo... |
| 01:26.35 | Mirell | That's strange. |
| 01:26.48 | landley | I seldom loose half a sock. |
| 01:26.55 | landley | Flip-flops and socks don't work very well together. (Tried it.) |
| 01:31.59 | m4t | egh, nobody has a dht-walnut initramfs w/fdisk, nc, and cpio handy do they? |
| 01:32.10 | m4t | cant seem to find mine |
| 01:32.14 | landley | What's dht-walnut? |
| 01:32.38 | Mirell | http://elinux.org/DHT-Walnut |
| 01:33.29 | m4t | Mirell thanks yea, http://elinux.org/Flameman/dht-walnut/rootfs |
| 01:33.35 | landley | m4t: http://busybox.net/downloads/binaries/1.16.1/ |
| 01:33.50 | landley | Statically linked (against uClibc) busybox binaries. There's a ppc405 one in there. |
| 01:34.05 | landley | So you can add fdisk and such to any existing system. (Worst case scenario, mount a tmpfs to download it into.) |
| 01:34.15 | m4t | hmm is 440...405 is softfpu |
| 01:34.44 | landley | I thought the ppc405 one was softmmu? (haven't tested it on real hardware yet, and qemu doesn't emulate a 405. :( |
| 01:34.54 | landley | Ah right, 440. |
| 01:35.02 | landley | 405 is the default one, I think? |
| 01:35.06 | landley | Now I have to look it up again... |
| 01:35.34 | landley | Worth checking http://busybox.net/downloads/binaries/1.16.1/busybox-powerpc and if it doesn't work let me know the arch tuple so I can add a target for that... |
| 01:36.03 | m4t | thanks |
| 01:36.08 | m4t | yea mtype is, one sec |
| 01:36.44 | m4t | -mcpu=405 |
| 01:39.16 | landley | Mirell: I'm leaning towards "fire up a new mailing list and close the old one". Sound like a migration plan to you? |
| 01:39.44 | landley | Mirell: also, how do I tweak the apache settings on the web server? |
| 02:21.15 | Mirell | Sigh. |
| 02:21.50 | Mirell | landley: a) Repeatedly don't like discussing these things publically. b) Already replied to your e-mail. |
| 02:49.16 | m4t | landley that bin seems to work (busybox), thanks |
| 02:49.28 | m4t | the initramfs i found is lacking mkfs etc so i needed it |
| 02:50.24 | m4t | er |
| 02:50.25 | m4t | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.32 | m4t | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.34 | m4t | :( |
| 02:57.24 | m4t | no worries, going to just build an old static e2fsprogs |
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| 04:57.47 | landley | Mirell: ah, I hadn't seen your reply because it went to the old server. (Stopped checking it too early, it seems. :) |
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| 13:05.36 | cz_jc | Hello, does anyone use eclipse for low level C development? |
| 13:06.49 | cz_jc | I'm wondering if theres some plugin to allow seeing memory mapped IO registers comfortably |
| 13:09.13 | mnemoc | C is not "low level" |
| 13:09.29 | cz_jc | mnemoc, I do assembly too if that makes you happy somehow. but I insist its low level |
| 13:09.38 | cz_jc | my startup code is hand written |
| 13:09.43 | cz_jc | and a FIQ handler |
| 13:10.51 | roxfan | code_red IDE has a nice register view, so supposedly it can be done |
| 13:11.30 | cz_jc | aah.. thanks, I'll see what it does :) |
| 13:11.49 | roxfan | most likely a custom plugin |
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| 13:17.11 | cz_jc | huh.. is it this? http://www.code-red-tech.com/index.php |
| 13:17.18 | roxfan | yes |
| 13:17.28 | cz_jc | I can't seem to find if they support AT91SAM7 on those obscure pages |
| 13:17.36 | roxfan | probably not |
| 13:18.07 | cz_jc | they don't have atmel in partners.. but no matter, if it has register I/O viewer it should have some means of adding a new processor, no ? |
| 13:18.46 | roxfan | probably, if you figure out their fancy xml encryption |
| 13:19.17 | cz_jc | oh.. I give up XD |
| 13:19.23 | roxfan | and your jtag adapter works with it |
| 13:19.33 | cz_jc | it doesn't use openocd ? |
| 13:20.06 | cz_jc | ok this is no development accelerator, thats a brake XD |
| 13:21.10 | roxfan | they have their market segment |
| 13:22.14 | cz_jc | good for them. but I like my el-cheapo wiggler and open source tools.. only thing I miss is a register viewer |
| 13:22.51 | roxfan | then you'll have to get by without it, or write your own plugin :) |
| 13:23.01 | cz_jc | eww.. java :) |
| 13:23.32 | cz_jc | only mention of I/O viewer is on the avr plugin page, they said they'll have it by next release |
| 13:23.44 | cz_jc | maybe it'll work with an arbitrary system too |
| 13:24.17 | roxfan | hmm http://sourceforge.net/projects/embsysregview/ |
| 13:24.46 | cz_jc | no way ! |
| 13:26.05 | cz_jc | this sounds too good to be true... |
| 13:26.07 | cz_jc | installs |
| 13:28.38 | cz_jc | wow ! |
| 13:28.43 | cz_jc | roxfan, thanks a lot for that ! |
| 13:28.54 | roxfan | o/ |
| 13:28.59 | roxfan | knows google-fu |
| 13:29.01 | cz_jc | it doesn't show individual bits but at least it organizes i/o registers in a very nice way |
| 13:29.53 | cz_jc | roxfan, apparently, I really tried hard and turned up with nothing |
| 13:36.25 | cz_jc | roxfan, register descriptions are stored in a folder structure with end descriptions in xml files :) |
| 13:36.35 | cz_jc | I'll write something up for my MCU and send him a patch :) |
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