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| 02:35.02 | haljaq | Hi, anyone have experience in SiLabs MCUs? I am having a hard time setting up the necessary tools (compiler, simulator) for it. |
| 02:44.27 | cablewhore69 | i'm trying to add an archtecture to Aboriginal Linux, formerly firmware-linux http://impactlinux.com/aboriginal/about.html |
| 02:44.53 | cablewhore69 | i need armv6b, (arm v6 big-endian) |
| 02:45.14 | cablewhore69 | currenty it offers armv6l (little endian) |
| 02:45.30 | cablewhore69 | i tried the obvious config changes, but no success |
| 03:03.15 | cablewhore69 | *ding* *dong* |
| 03:04.08 | calculus | cablewhore69: landley would be the man to catch regarding this, sadly he is offline at the moment |
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| 12:57.47 | Mirell | cablewhore69: Also, the mailing list is excellent for non-real-time support. |
| 12:58.08 | Mirell | cablewhore69: He answers questions typically the same day, just not the same day schedule. :D |
| 12:58.47 | cablewhore69 | thx |
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| 14:13.05 | kergoth | morning |
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| 17:40.47 | landley | you know my phone's voice recognition capabilities almost makeup fridge horrible keyboard |
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| 17:41.10 | landley | And yes, that's what it just did. |
| 17:41.19 | landley | Had to post it... |
| 17:46.11 | landley | It's faster to speak a phrase then correct it with the keyboard, but the results are sometimes hilarious. |
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| 17:52.10 | cablewhore69 | i'm trying to add an archtecture to Aboriginal Linux, formerly firmware-linux http://impactlinux.com/aboriginal/about.html |
| 17:52.10 | cablewhore69 | i need armv6b, (arm v6 big-endian) |
| 17:52.10 | cablewhore69 | currenty it offers armv6l (little endian) |
| 17:52.11 | cablewhore69 | i tried the obvious config changes, but no success |
| 17:52.56 | cablewhore69 | and when i try code from armv4eb, it sometimes works, other times get 'invalid instruction' |
| 17:56.38 | cablewhore69 | target platform is |
| 17:56.38 | cablewhore69 | Texas Instruments Inc.TI Puma V - TNETC48XXARMPuma V (ARM 1176) |
| 17:57.10 | cablewhore69 | runs montavista linux. |
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| 18:10.29 | khem | cablewhore69: is big endian well supported in qemu |
| 18:12.14 | prpplague | anyone know a Mark Conrad? |
| 18:13.28 | landley | Not off the top of my head, why do you ask? |
| 18:14.21 | landley | Cablewhore69: arm big endian support has bit-rotted badly |
| 18:14.44 | landley | Both in linux-kernel and in qemu. |
| 18:15.00 | prpplague | got his resume for some android dev |
| 18:15.35 | landley | I was trying to get armv4eb working last month, but without qemu have no test environmemt. |
| 18:16.58 | prpplague | landley: you don't have a hardware platform? |
| 18:17.29 | landley | not for armeb |
| 18:22.26 | cablewhore69 | strangely, i got armv4eb working (binary distro) on centos 4.5, but it hangs and dies on ubuntu 10 |
| 18:23.25 | cablewhore69 | i can build from firmware source on ubuntu, but only armv6l actually runs. |
| 18:23.35 | cablewhore69 | havent tried the source build yet on centos |
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| 18:25.01 | landley | When you say only 6l runs I'm guessing you didn't try 5l 4tl and so on? |
| 18:25.52 | landley | And how did you get the eb binary distro to run? (on real hardware?) |
| 18:27.06 | landley | Or is there qemu version skew between centos and ubuntu? |
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| 18:28.51 | shihlonchen | hello |
| 18:31.17 | cablewhore69 | not yet |
| 18:31.37 | cablewhore69 | if it helps you, i'll test binary for each of them, on both hosts |
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| 18:32.18 | cablewhore69 | not qemu. only the very latest qemu works (newer than is available from either platform package repository) |
| 18:32.30 | cablewhore69 | had to build qemu from source on both to get it to work at all |
| 18:32.49 | cablewhore69 | centos 4.5 kernel is considerably older than ubuntu 10's |
| 18:33.30 | cablewhore69 | eb binary runs in qemu on centos 4.5, AND on an actual arm1176 board |
| 18:33.35 | cablewhore69 | but only helloworld |
| 18:33.56 | cablewhore69 | when i try to run busybox, i get invalid instruction (on actual arm 1176) |
| 18:34.41 | cablewhore69 | is the e for EABI? |
| 18:35.07 | cablewhore69 | might be that, as the 1176 board is montavista linux (gnu-ish?) |
| 18:36.07 | landley | http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2010-06/msg00423.html |
| 18:36.31 | cablewhore69 | the gold ring, would be to build a cross-compiler that works like |
| 18:36.32 | cablewhore69 | arm_v6_be_uclibc-gcc -v |
| 18:36.32 | cablewhore69 | CROSS Compiler: Montavista ToolChain 4.2.0-2.0.0 custom 2007-02-12 |
| 18:36.39 | landley | The eb is endian big |
| 18:36.47 | cablewhore69 | oh. lol |
| 18:37.01 | landley | The armv4eb target is oabi. |
| 18:37.22 | cablewhore69 | :/ |
| 18:37.26 | cablewhore69 | (read msg) |
| 18:37.28 | landley | Clone of armv4l with appropriate config tweaks. |
| 18:37.40 | landley | Diff 'em to see. |
| 18:37.53 | cablewhore69 | can armv6l be similarly cloned? |
| 18:38.05 | cablewhore69 | been diffing v6l and v4eb... |
| 18:38.16 | cablewhore69 | i'll try diffiing the two 4's see if it clicks |
| 18:38.21 | landley | In theory you can use existing cross compiler. |
| 18:38.53 | cablewhore69 | i'm worried that it needs a Gentoo target that has to already exist |
| 18:38.57 | cablewhore69 | still a little new to all this |
| 18:39.40 | landley | In practice not well tested yet. |
| 18:39.52 | cablewhore69 | btw, v4 would probably be ok, if not optimal. maybe an easier approach would be to clone 4eb, and target it as GNU insead of oabi? |
| 18:40.18 | landley | I'm happy for any help getting this working... |
| 18:40.33 | cablewhore69 | i'd be happy to put in the time, building/testing |
| 18:40.42 | cablewhore69 | if perhaps you could give me a couple of config suggestions |
| 18:40.50 | cablewhore69 | i don't understand what all of the directives do |
| 18:40.57 | landley | eabi/oabi are unrelated to "gnu" |
| 18:41.04 | cablewhore69 | oh. |
| 18:41.38 | landley | This would be so much easier if i could connect to irc from work |
| 18:42.05 | cablewhore69 | which parts of the 4eb target would you think differ from arm_v6_be_uclibc ? |
| 18:42.09 | landley | my phone keyboard is evil and voice recognition is unintentionally hilarious |
| 18:42.28 | cablewhore69 | you're using a phone just now? |
| 18:42.35 | landley | nexus |
| 18:43.31 | landley | What's your email? |
| 18:43.45 | cablewhore69 | suteny0r@gmail.com |
| 18:44.39 | shihlonchen | hey I have a question, is there any possibility to echo/cat proc file but can not see it? i mean can not use cmd: "ls -all" to list the files under dirs of /proc. But can use "ls file" to list it. Any clue? |
| 18:44.40 | cablewhore69 | you're phone won't tether? or would that get you in trouble with network security |
| 18:45.51 | cablewhore69 | also, gmail's 'gtalk' IM from within the browser is pretty good at sliding past firewalls, especially when you use SSH |
| 18:45.59 | cablewhore69 | https, rather |
| 18:51.36 | landley | emailed. |
| 18:52.50 | landley | Nexus won't tether that I've found. |
| 18:53.33 | landley | I should set up an ssh tunnel, I just haven't yet. |
| 18:59.54 | landley | prpplague: Mark who again? |
| 19:01.59 | prpplague | Mark Conrad |
| 19:03.02 | Mirell | Wee. |
| 19:03.05 | Mirell | Going to Montreal in two weeks. |
| 19:09.24 | landley | prpplague: nope, never exchanged email with anybody going by that name. |
| 19:09.25 | landley | mirell: woot? |
| 19:09.34 | landley | Why montreal? |
| 19:10.43 | Mirell | landley: Recon |
| 19:10.52 | Mirell | http://recon.cx/ |
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