IRC log for #edev on 20100720

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01:12.06stiv2khi
01:13.19stiv2khttp://i29.tinypic.com/33b2652.jpg <-- 1st time doing a BGA reball on an old i810 northbridge
01:13.25stiv2kusing direct heat stencils
01:13.33stiv2ki'm running into problems
01:14.01stiv2k1. about a third of the balls wont melt to the chip even at 320 C on the hot air station and ~250C reading on the thermocouple
01:14.30stiv2kand 2. the stencil is stuck to the chip now (im going to fix the little blob on the left side, i already know about that)
01:14.36stiv2kany suggestions ?
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05:26.56alexand3rhey
05:38.40Spherehi
05:39.19Mirell'allo
05:41.04Mirellis just loving "Pushing Daisies"
05:54.46RobotGuyMirell: Hi!
06:05.21stiv2khi
06:08.19Mirell'allo RobotGuy
06:08.21MirellHow goes?
06:09.02RobotGuyIt goes - have not been feeling well the past few days, but starting to improve. OSCON is this week and I will be there starting tomorrow.
06:09.29MirellNot familiar with that one
06:09.53RobotGuyOpen Source CONference. :) Run by O'Reily.
06:10.19MirellAh, nice
06:10.51RobotGuyMirell: It's in Portland, OR - I am in Beaverton, OR, about 22 miles SW of there.
06:11.15RobotGuyUnfortunately, I can't attend any of the sessions or tutorials. :(
06:11.25MirellWhy not?
06:11.46RobotGuyMirell: They require registration and I can't afford that. :(
06:12.02MirellMmm.
06:12.24RobotGuyI'll be limited to the Exhibition Hall only.
06:13.30RobotGuyI need to hook up with some organization who needs a person at OSCON. :) A sponsor. :)
06:33.56solarthe classes were overrated. I think when I saw you there my company wasted an extra 1700 on them. I did not gain any useful nuggets of info
06:34.48RobotGuysolar: Hi! That's too bad.  Does that mean both sessions and tutorials were not good?
06:35.14RobotGuyEven for a beginner in subjects being taught?
06:36.01solarit's all high level overviews or more complex one off cases imo
06:36.22RobotGuysolar: Oh, OK, so they may not be appropriate for me anyway then.
06:37.10RobotGuyI want real how to hands on sorts of stuff.
06:38.13RobotGuyI almost have W.A.L.T.E.R. operational again, after not working on him for a year or so.
06:38.30MirellSadly, I was quite disappointed at Recon.
06:39.32RobotGuysolar: I was not real impressed with the session we attended together - I left early.
06:40.43RobotGuyI would love to go to something where I could actually LEARN more of Python, for instance.
06:41.18RobotGuyRight now I am learning how to develop for the BeagleBoard (I have a C3).
06:42.22RobotGuyI'm also trying to figure out why I can't build images with OE.
06:43.19RobotGuyWhere does one go for REAL training classes that don't cost an arm and a leg?
06:44.07RobotGuyI really want to learn from those who really know, but those kinds of classes seem to be extremely expensive.
06:44.39RobotGuyI also want to get back into Gentoo, because of BeagleBoard, but not sure I should try going there again.
06:45.20RobotGuygoes quiet
06:50.04solaryou need to find somebody that has classes more often. Like hanging out at that cube place
06:52.23RobotGuysolar: Yes, I remember that place - where we went to the Ruby thing. They aren't really setup for accessibility though and I am concerned I could get stuck there and not be able to get out.
06:53.22RobotGuyI'm still having to use my power chair due to very bad balance issues.
07:01.25RobotGuyScratchbox needs VDSO support.  What is VDSO?
07:02.30RobotGuyDamn KDE
07:05.08RobotGuyOK, Google taught me what VDSO is and I don't have it on my system, and Scratchbox wants it.
07:08.11RobotGuyI'm installing the Maemo SDK stuff.
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07:45.01RobotGuyG'Night.
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08:10.18littleprincessHi
08:12.54littleprincessany one have experience in power line communication ? is there good plc module ?
08:30.18Mirell'fraid not.
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10:01.22littleprincess<Mirell> , np
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10:18.19Sphereplaying with a 64 core embedded system, my day could be worse :p
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15:23.36wwalkerSphere: 64 core?  embedded?  care to elaborate?
15:24.47Sphere16 quadcore chips interconnected using highspeed buses
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15:25.23Spherehttps://www.xmos.com/products/development-kits/xmp-64 this board
15:25.38Sphereeach core running at 400 MHz doing 400 MIPS
15:31.44Spheretesting my distributed operating system with 448 cores :p
15:31.50Sphereuh 448 kernels* sorry
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15:46.04megalomanohi people
15:46.40megalomanoi want some doubts , refers to embeded SO on eeprom memory
15:47.12Spherei don't want doubts
15:47.13SpeedEvil?
15:47.16Spheredoubts suck
15:47.25SpeedEvilCould you rephrase your question in english?
15:47.45SpeedEvilwhat do you want to do, why can't you do it, does this make you sad?
15:47.59megalomanojajajaja
15:48.03megalomanosorry
15:48.13megalomanoI have some doubts
15:48.53SpeedEvilAbout?
15:51.51megalomanowell , netbsd on eeprom memory to gsm equipment ( teles igate ) ,so , i want to extract somo information to charge data into the memory
15:53.11SpeedEvilyou have connected the memory chip to a netbsd system?
15:56.07chouimat|awaySphere: interesting board ...
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16:17.12megalomanoyes , but I don't have some pinout or another way to read the memory ( although I can enter by telnet , but is write protected)
16:21.41wwalkersphere 448 kernels in 4 MB of RAM??
16:22.06Sphereyes
16:22.22Sphereeach kernel is 4KB or something (currently an estimation)
16:22.25wwalker<10K each
16:22.28wwalkerwow
16:22.41Spherethat's nothing new, small embedded OS have small kernels :p
16:23.22Sphereand i haven#t even optimized it yet for size :p
16:24.05wwalkertrue, I'm just moving back into embedded after 15 years at the workstation and server level.
16:24.24wwalkerembedded is much more rewarding for me, but can't find a job doing it.
16:25.38SpeedEvilmegalomano: the phone equipment runs netbsd, and you want to edit the settings, but you don't understand the format of the settings?
16:28.36megalomanoyes , as an example , I want to charge other SO ( linux ) in these equipment
16:29.35penguineces/charge/flash ?
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16:40.37MirellI just now realized there are BSD and GNU variants of libtool.
16:48.10MirellAlso, I'm slightly scared of libxml2 now.
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17:08.28prpplaguelandley: hey bud
17:08.35prpplaguelandley: hows life at qualcommmmmm
17:09.25landleyPretty good.
17:10.18landleyUp late last night debugging the guts of ld-uClibc.so
17:10.44prpplagueahh fun fun
17:10.48landleyThat should help me fix sparc eventually.
17:11.04prpplaguelandley: btw, you seen any of the new doctor who season?
17:11.11landleyMirell: why is there bsd libtool?
17:11.19MirellI have no idea whatsoever.
17:11.39MirellAlso, my concern over libxml2 is the main developer's desire to maintain ABI compatability.
17:12.58landleyMaintaining abi compatabilty is called static linking
17:18.57Mirelllandley: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325533
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20:07.51aggrav8dhello!  anyone know who makes amrisc 20000 ?  I'm trying to get specs on this thing.
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20:36.23roxfanisn't the maker written on it?
20:36.54roxfanfirst link in google http://tintuc.no-ip.com/linux/tipps/mgb100/
21:01.33prpplaguewhere the heck is tom when you need him
21:03.55MirellLight up the Tom signal.
21:15.00aggrav8di already looked at the first google hit, it didn't tell me much.
21:28.45CosmicPenguinbleh bleh blah
21:30.40aggrav8droxfan - on the chip it says "AMRISC 20000 R3210GCL3H 0940-D-LQ 8US-D4GN4"
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21:36.41aggrav8droxfan - does that mean anything to you?
23:11.09khemaggrav8d: is a i386 like cpu
23:27.33aggrav8dkhem - ok, thanks.

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