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| 00:24.54 | rue_shop | prpplague, |
| 00:27.42 | rue_shop3 | prpplague |
| 00:36.44 | Mirell | prpplague |
| 00:40.33 | prpplague | prpplague |
| 00:41.05 | Mirell | prpplague |
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| 00:41.21 | prpplague | beats Mirell with copies of the ARM ARM |
| 00:41.31 | Mirell | Run, MIPS, Run! |
| 00:42.20 | Mirell | In other news, reclining sofa for the win. |
| 00:42.25 | prpplague | has conquered the evils of EHCI and PHY's |
| 00:42.46 | prpplague | has had expensive beer this evening |
| 00:43.04 | Mirell | has a new sofa and a new Mac Mini for a media center |
| 00:43.16 | SpeedEvil | made jam. |
| 00:43.20 | prpplague | Mirell: dandy, quality dr.who downloaded? |
| 00:43.34 | Mirell | prpplague: Yes, but actually rewatching BSD now. |
| 00:43.37 | Mirell | Er, BSG. |
| 00:43.45 | prpplague | ahh |
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| 00:44.02 | prpplague | Mirell: dandy |
| 00:44.14 | prpplague | Mirell: i've taken to collecting old 70's sci-fi lately |
| 00:44.19 | Mirell | Bleh. |
| 00:44.22 | Mirell | Screw the old BSG. |
| 00:44.56 | SpeedEvil | is watching babylon 5. |
| 00:45.23 | SpeedEvil | It's amazing how fast CGI goes from 'Cutting edge' to 'My laptop can do that at 60fps' |
| 00:45.25 | Mirell | Meeestaaah Gaaaareeebawwwldee. |
| 00:46.04 | Mirell | SpeedEvil: The CGI space battles were freakin' amazing at the time. |
| 00:46.09 | Mirell | SpeedEvil: ST:TNG still used models. |
| 00:46.44 | SpeedEvil | I know. |
| 00:48.05 | SpeedEvil | The production team actually being active in fan-groups was unusual too |
| 00:49.07 | prpplague | Mirell: http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Beyond-Stars-George-Peppard/dp/B000055ZF1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1280364531&sr=8-1 |
| 00:49.50 | prpplague | still loves the old Logan's Run |
| 00:49.58 | Mirell | That is a classic. |
| 00:50.27 | prpplague | i've on the petition list to get the logan's run tv series on dvd for almost a decade |
| 00:50.37 | SpeedEvil | ponders old SF. |
| 00:50.38 | rue_shop3 | heylo, compile is finished |
| 00:50.51 | prpplague | i've also been on the petition for "Salvage One" dvd as well |
| 00:50.59 | prpplague | rue_shop3: dandy |
| 00:51.02 | Mirell | I was on the petition for Space Quest 7. |
| 00:51.04 | Mirell | Still waiting. |
| 00:51.25 | SpeedEvil | Darkstar. |
| 00:51.31 | rue_shop3 | so, it has a kernel in there |
| 00:51.33 | prpplague | Mirell: don't suppose you remember "AutoMan" ? |
| 00:51.37 | Mirell | I do not. |
| 00:51.45 | rue_shop3 | is it the same process to compile that as a new kernel? |
| 00:51.54 | prpplague | rue_shop3: the buildroot only has the headers, not the kernel for the hammer |
| 00:51.59 | rue_shop3 | ah |
| 00:52.12 | prpplague | rue_shop3: ok next step is to build the 2.6.22 as a start |
| 00:52.25 | rue_shop3 | so, assuming I unpack/config the kernel, do I need to tell it about buildroot? |
| 00:52.33 | rue_shop3 | must be a path or something |
| 00:52.40 | rue_shop3 | cause buildroot isn't 'installed' |
| 00:52.44 | prpplague | rue_shop3: only the path to the compiler |
| 00:52.51 | rue_shop3 | ok |
| 00:52.59 | rue_shop3 | where do I set that in the kernel |
| 00:53.03 | rue_shop3 | oh wait, webpage |
| 00:53.21 | prpplague | PATH=<Path to buildroot>/buildroot/build_arm/staging_dir/bin:$PATH |
| 00:53.23 | rue_shop | aha |
| 00:53.29 | prpplague | you need to add the path to compiler |
| 00:53.29 | rue_shop | yes it has that, excellent |
| 00:53.58 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/Hammer_How_to_build_Kernel |
| 00:54.04 | rue_shop | have that |
| 00:54.08 | rue_shop | looks good from here |
| 00:55.17 | rue_shop | and 2.6.29 is still the recommended? |
| 00:55.55 | rue_shop | 2.6.29.6? |
| 00:56.02 | prpplague | Mirell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automan |
| 00:56.20 | prpplague | rue_shop: work like this, build what works first |
| 00:56.25 | Mirell | Oh lord. |
| 00:58.01 | prpplague | Mirell: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2039117249 |
| 00:59.52 | prpplague | Mirell: i saw a late 70's version of "Doll House" when i was a kid, but i can't seem to find the name or record of the tv movie |
| 01:02.10 | rue_shop3 | k, use the cd version |
| 01:03.41 | rue_shop | why does the cd have a 2.6.22.tar.gz and a 2.6.22-hammer.tar.gz and no diff? |
| 01:04.38 | prpplague | the diff is on the cd too |
| 01:04.46 | prpplague | "or should be" |
| 01:04.54 | rue_shop | ok, so I'll use the -hammer anyhow eh? |
| 01:05.08 | rue_shop | presumadly diff applied |
| 01:05.10 | prpplague | yea |
| 01:07.59 | rue_shop | hey, when putting on a new kernel, I dont have to rewrite the bootloader too do I? |
| 01:11.59 | rue_mohr | I should make musing pictures and videos of my robots to keep peoples attention when I'm asking for help |
| 01:16.01 | rue_mohr | http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/mascot/mascott.html |
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| 01:35.06 | wmat | heh, cute |
| 01:40.58 | prpplague | rue_mohr: you could sell those |
| 01:41.04 | prpplague | would buy one |
| 02:17.48 | rue_shop | :) |
| 02:18.22 | rue_shop | well the local tv channel completely messed up the description of our parade entry, oh well.. |
| 02:20.15 | rue_shop | prpplague, the instructions for 2.6.22 dont say about exporting the buildroot config, is it the same procesS? |
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| 02:22.10 | rue_shop | arg this is all wrong, this will have no... hmm, magic? |
| 02:22.51 | rue_shop3 | aha, it cant find the arm gcc |
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| 02:31.44 | rue_shop | make: arm-linux-uclibc-gcc |
| 02:31.51 | rue_shop | there a path or something I shoudl export? |
| 02:33.37 | rue_shop | the kernel complile instructions dont include what needed here |
| 02:33.59 | rue_shop | would I be right to guess at some point in buildroot I should have run make install? |
| 03:00.33 | prpplague | rue_shop you should export the cross compiler directory |
| 03:00.39 | prpplague | PATH=<Path to buildroot>/buildroot/build_arm/staging_dir/bin:$PATH |
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| 03:17.42 | rue_mohr | http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/images/bga-adapt1.jpg |
| 03:17.44 | rue_mohr | http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/images/bga-adapt2.jpg |
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| 04:57.10 | davidc__ | rue_mohr: did that actually work? |
| 04:57.28 | davidc__ | and why solder to such gigantic terminals instead of using something a _bit_ smaller |
| 04:57.37 | rue_mohr | it was a proof of do-ability |
| 04:57.52 | rue_mohr | the terminals were the oldest 'header' I could find |
| 04:58.40 | davidc__ | the only problem is that a lot of the parts that are in the BGA form factor wouldn't work with their power supply rails wired like that :P |
| 04:59.25 | rue_mohr | :) |
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| 19:04.46 | landley | morning. |
| 19:05.47 | RobotGuy | landley: Greetings! |
| 19:07.15 | landley | Hiya robotguy. What's up? |
| 19:08.10 | RobotGuy | Just working on robot stuff. :) Almost ready to mount a BeagleBoard on W.A.L.T.E.R. Starting to work on Python code to talk to Arduino boards connected via USB. |
| 19:08.35 | RobotGuy | Getting close to when I can get a Trainer Board to add to the setup for WALTER. |
| 19:09.33 | RobotGuy | I've been thinking of adding one more thing to the modification for a Trainer Board - adding a socket for an XBee. |
| 19:11.11 | RobotGuy | How have you been doing? |
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| 19:22.55 | prpplague | landley: hey bud |
| 19:23.04 | prpplague | landley: how's qualcommmmmmmm treating you? |
| 19:23.17 | RobotGuy | prpplague: Greetings Program. :) |
| 19:23.29 | prpplague | RobotGuy: hey bud |
| 19:24.31 | RobotGuy | I've got that Clear wireless internet now. |
| 19:26.27 | methril_work | landley, you are in Qualcom ? |
| 19:26.28 | methril_work | nice |
| 19:26.36 | methril_work | you could try to get them into mainline |
| 19:26.37 | methril_work | :) |
| 19:34.39 | CosmicPenguin | good luck with all of that |
| 19:34.49 | CosmicPenguin | Especially those graphics guys - what dicks |
| 19:35.54 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: aren't you at qaulcom? |
| 19:36.01 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, I work in graphics... :) |
| 19:36.18 | CosmicPenguin | And, as luck would have it, I'm a dick |
| 19:36.28 | sjhill | just checking |
| 19:37.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 19:42.05 | CosmicPenguin | I will point out that all the code *I* wrote is open - its not useful or functional, but dammit its open |
| 19:42.16 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:42.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: one of the TI guys in the graphics section was complaining about some features in xserver that needed to be fixed for omap support |
| 19:43.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i mentioned that i knew an expert but that he worked for qualcom |
| 19:43.56 | CosmicPenguin | I probably already fixed them |
| 19:44.03 | CosmicPenguin | or I'm complaining about the same thing |
| 19:44.20 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:44.25 | CosmicPenguin | I keep telling people that we need to get an ARM industry mailing list going for this sort of stuff |
| 19:44.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that's basically what i said |
| 19:45.14 | CosmicPenguin | Android makes their stuff happen in the open, which forces collaboration - thats not a bad thing in many regards |
| 19:45.27 | prpplague | <robclark> basically life would be much easier if DSS supported cliprect's or if I could tell DSS to invert the alpha channel value before blending with overlay |
| 19:45.27 | prpplague | <robclark> otherwise, I have to play some tricks to make xserver write 1's into alpha channel bytes everywhere that video is not |
| 19:45.48 | prpplague | think he's doing some v4l stuff |
| 19:47.17 | RobotGuy | I have a dual boot BeagleBoard - Android in NAND and other stuff from SD card (like Angstrom). :) |
| 19:48.23 | CosmicPenguin | ew - yeah, I didn't fix that..... :) |
| 19:48.24 | RobotGuy | I'm working on Python code to talk to an Arduino connected via USB. |
| 19:49.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 20:01.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: do you know a Krishna Devarapalli from the sandiego qualcom offices? |
| 20:02.54 | CosmicPenguin | Nope |
| 20:03.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: np, just curious |
| 20:31.08 | CosmicPenguin | must...be...useful |
| 20:31.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ?? |
| 20:32.11 | CosmicPenguin | must work for corporate giant, make IP, crush competiton |
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| 20:32.25 | CosmicPenguin | and not just hit refresh on google reader all day |
| 20:32.48 | prpplague | hehe |
| 20:33.02 | florian | re |
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