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| 13:49.51 | sjhill | anyone have a touchscreen test application? |
| 13:49.59 | sjhill | google isn't giving me crap |
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| 14:08.10 | sjhill | hey kergoth |
| 14:08.15 | kergoth | morning |
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| 18:37.24 | prpplague | landley: i see SFLC is in the news again |
| 18:37.41 | prpplague | landley: i wonder who they are still representing? |
| 18:37.56 | prpplague | landley: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100803132055210 |
| 18:38.08 | landley | Is this about brad kuhn leaving? |
| 18:38.08 | prpplague | landley: you pulled all your support from SFLC right? |
| 18:38.18 | landley | To the conservancy? |
| 18:38.42 | landley | prpplague: I lost faith in their judgement. |
| 18:39.17 | landley | Plus gplv3 made me rethink the value of license enforcement in general. |
| 18:39.18 | prpplague | i never got a chance to have faith in their judgement |
| 18:39.42 | landley | I'm siding with the swedish pirate party these days. |
| 18:40.12 | prpplague | landley: hehe |
| 18:40.46 | landley | I miss the public domain. |
| 18:41.14 | landley | There should be creative commons software licenses. Screw the fsf. |
| 18:42.26 | landley | If they're going to undermine gplv2, it's not going to make me go v3 ever. |
| 18:43.04 | landley | All I want at this point is a license that prevents what I write from being used under gplv3. |
| 18:43.27 | landley | Everything else is details. |
| 18:43.52 | landley | And really, the fsf copyright assignment does that... |
| 18:44.10 | landley | So what's this news? |
| 18:44.26 | landley | ah. |
| 18:45.57 | landley | I wasn't involved in that one. |
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| 18:57.14 | Mirell | Theoritically Creative Commons could be used for software. |
| 18:57.18 | Mirell | It just really hasn't been. |
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| 19:02.11 | Mirell | pokes landley |
| 19:02.20 | Mirell | I sent you an e-mail asking about the GFS thing you were talking about. |
| 19:08.34 | landley | Checking email now... |
| 19:09.32 | landley | I'm still pondering doing a lua toybox. Maybe that should be creative commons. |
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| 19:17.18 | CosmicPenguin | I'll grant you the creative part... |
| 19:23.00 | landley | mirell: writing you a long email... |
| 19:30.08 | landley | and sent. |
| 19:34.09 | Mirell | Reminds me, I need to set up some virtual machines again... |
| 19:38.14 | landley | Which ones? |
| 19:38.32 | Mirell | Just WindowsXP/Ubuntu VMs. |
| 19:39.37 | landley | oddly, http://www.davereyn.co.uk/download.htm actually seems to work. |
| 20:27.04 | Mirell | Bitbucket sadly does not seem anywhere near as mature as github. |
| 20:45.53 | prpplague | landley: need to look at replacing toolbox in android with toybox |
| 20:46.19 | landley | Ok. Why? |
| 20:46.24 | prpplague | landley: toolbox is a source of major frustration |
| 20:46.40 | landley | Busybox? |
| 20:46.56 | landley | mirell: bitbucket? |
| 20:47.01 | prpplague | landley: no, google has their own multifunction called toolbox |
| 20:47.10 | prpplague | landley: bascially a bad copy of busybox |
| 20:47.11 | landley | I know. |
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| 20:47.23 | prpplague | landley: ahh i misunderstood your question |
| 20:47.35 | landley | Why not just replace with static busybox? |
| 20:48.11 | prpplague | landley: we do currently for testing right now, but there are still some quirks about using busybox instead of toolbox |
| 20:48.17 | landley | They won't because it's gpl, but so it toybox currently. |
| 20:48.21 | prpplague | landley: thought it might give you an advantage with toybox |
| 20:49.26 | landley | not looking to continue C toybox. Me vs dozen guys with 10 year head start, I have other demands on my time. |
| 20:49.42 | prpplague | landley: ahh |
| 20:50.04 | prpplague | landley: didn't know you had placed it on the dead project list |
| 20:50.10 | landley | Proved to myself I could beat them... if I did nothing else. That's no fun... |
| 20:50.32 | landley | Pushing stuff upstream into busybox now. |
| 20:50.45 | prpplague | landley: ahh |
| 20:51.21 | prpplague | should fix some of the busybox code as well |
| 20:51.37 | Mirell | landley: http://bitbucket.org/ |
| 20:51.48 | Mirell | landley: It tries to be what github is, except with Mercurial. |
| 20:53.18 | landley | What is github? I've cloned/pulled projects from it, but otherwise didn't pay attention. |
| 20:53.52 | Mirell | landley: It's a git repository hosting service. |
| 20:53.56 | landley | Yet another sourceforge variant? |
| 20:54.04 | Mirell | landley: Not quite. |
| 20:54.12 | Mirell | landley: github, while it can do issue tracking, et cetera, |
| 20:54.27 | Mirell | landley: The primary purpose is *just* a source control repository. |
| 20:54.44 | Mirell | landley: It's actually quite nice for what it does. |
| 20:56.40 | prpplague | we've been using gitorious |
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| 23:21.42 | Mirell | Mmm, good ol' LinkedIn. |
| 23:22.25 | landley | linkedin? |
| 23:22.34 | Mirell | Correcty. |
| 23:22.44 | Mirell | I despise it, but I also realize employers seem to like it. |
| 23:22.52 | landley | What about it? |
| 23:23.09 | Mirell | Oh, just poking people for connections/recommendations. |
| 23:25.01 | Mirell | Oh, landley: http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/news/reversible.html |
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| 23:35.24 | ccole | Mirell: How does reverse stepping know where it came from after a jump? Does reverse debugging require a pre-recorded debugging sequence? |
| 23:36.07 | ccole | sees mention of 'press record'.. |
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| 23:42.50 | alexand3r | hey |