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| 00:23.18 | mihanson | hello aboriginal! I'm using a prebuilt binary for armv5l (build date 29-Mar-2010) and I cannot get the --make-hdb 2048 --with-hdb hdb.img to work. |
| 00:25.31 | mihanson | can anyone enlighten me on what I may be doing wrong? My command line is ./run-emulator.sh --make-hdb 2048 --with-hdb hdb.img from inside the system-image-armv5l directory. |
| 00:26.42 | mihanson | I also built my own image with the same results. My host is: Linux desktop 2.6.34-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Aug 11 00:23:15 CEST 2010 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4850e AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
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| 01:09.33 | mihanson | Ok, I figured it out. I downloaded the most recent snapshot and ran the dev-environment.sh with the proper switches and it now works. |
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| 02:25.56 | landley | mihanson You good now then? |
| 02:26.12 | landley | Working on the next release as we soeak... |
| 02:26.21 | landley | speak, even. |
| 02:26.29 | landley | Well, type... |
| 03:00.40 | Mirell | Hmm... |
| 03:02.10 | Mirell | NetFlix on the iPhone is like living in the future. |
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| 04:35.28 | Mirell | http://yfrog.com/n9wnrhj |
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| 13:52.47 | rektide | woo redwire econotag's have arrived |
| 13:52.59 | rektide | something to play with next week hurrah |
| 13:54.49 | SpeedEvil | RFID? |
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| 14:35.00 | rektide | 802.15.4, 2.4GHz |
| 14:35.23 | rektide | a pity freescale doesnt offer lower frequency renditions of the MC13224V |
| 14:35.33 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 14:35.35 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 14:35.44 | SpeedEvil | I want to play with zigbee from freescale |
| 14:35.56 | rektide | i'm interested to hear about the DASH7 rfid stuff going on |
| 14:35.59 | SpeedEvil | I norticed that they have made free the zigbee stack |
| 14:36.07 | SpeedEvil | Well - for some values of free |
| 14:36.07 | rektide | i did not notice that |
| 14:36.19 | SpeedEvil | But they've dropped the per-unit license fee |
| 14:37.04 | SpeedEvil | I want to get a nice set of home automation stuff on ebay. |
| 14:37.06 | SpeedEvil | but... |
| 14:37.31 | rektide | i mildly consider linux-zigbee as something that may one day get my interested in zigbee proper |
| 14:37.39 | rektide | but i'm in no way holding out hopes |
| 14:37.42 | rektide | the wires thing |
| 14:38.09 | rektide | i have an old home automation network i built, around rs-485 and scenix/ubicom uc's... soo much effort doing wiring though |
| 14:39.14 | rektide | what was your dis-incentive? |
| 14:40.23 | SpeedEvil | I have no fucking energy. |
| 14:40.32 | SpeedEvil | Post-viral fatigue syndrome. |
| 14:40.56 | SpeedEvil | I've got maybe an hour or two a day during which I'm functional. And most of that gets eaten up by mundanity. |
| 14:41.17 | SpeedEvil | That, and 1-wire works adequately. |
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| 14:57.31 | Mirell | When I was sick, I ended up watching Bones |
| 14:57.36 | Mirell | I think that made me feel worse |
| 14:57.37 | rektide | not seeing much OSS traction going on w/r/t Zigbee |
| 15:00.10 | SpeedEvil | rektide: Zigbee has a license that means you can't implement bits of it easily with OSS |
| 15:00.12 | SpeedEvil | which is annoying |
| 15:00.17 | SpeedEvil | I forget the exact reasons |
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| 15:03.11 | rektide | seemed like freaklabs was trying to develop something or other |
| 15:03.23 | rektide | last winter |
| 15:04.27 | rektide | ppl seem to be trying to build ipv6 meshes now |
| 15:05.18 | rektide | on 802.15.4 |
| 15:07.37 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 15:07.48 | SpeedEvil | Another interesting project |
| 15:09.44 | rektide | 6LoWPAN |
| 15:10.08 | rektide | akiba, the freaklabs guy, points out that its just a transport, whereas zigbee defines profiles &c that boosts inter-compliance |
| 15:10.30 | rektide | otoh 6lowpan &c would be fine for dbus / upnp, if you can fit such on your tiny uC stack |
| 15:12.10 | rektide | this dash7 thing looks to have crazy traction too, mainly because its a DoD spec. |
| 15:14.09 | SpeedEvil | Yeah - the 'everything is just a physical layer' - and running IP on everything without realising that upper layers being designed appropriately, can really pessimise performance. |
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| 15:49.22 | CosmicPenguin | hugs taskjuggler |
| 15:54.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: man did i get blasted for putting a board rev in /sys/kernel/board/revision |
| 15:54.28 | kergoth | looks at taskjuggler |
| 15:54.34 | CosmicPenguin | hehe |
| 15:54.45 | CosmicPenguin | yes, people love their sysfs, don't they? |
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| 16:19.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
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| 19:40.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
| 19:46.16 | CosmicPenguin | pong |
| 19:49.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, git question |
| 19:49.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: git checkout -b foo --track origin/foo |
| 19:49.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: make some commits |
| 19:49.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: now i want to push to a new branch named bar |
| 19:49.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was expecting to do it like this |
| 19:49.54 | prpplague | git push origin bar |
| 19:50.01 | kergoth | git push origin foo:bar |
| 19:50.03 | prpplague | but that doesn't seem corred |
| 19:50.06 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh |
| 19:50.11 | kergoth | that likely tried to push a local bar to a remote bar |
| 19:50.20 | kergoth | not sure offhand, but .. :) |
| 19:50.22 | CosmicPenguin | yes |
| 19:50.23 | kergoth | foo:bar will definitely work |
| 19:50.24 | prpplague | kergoth: yea that is what it was doing |
| 19:50.25 | CosmicPenguin | I agree |
| 19:50.32 | prpplague | dandy thanks |
| 19:50.41 | Mirell | prpplague: Just go get Pro Git |
| 19:51.15 | prpplague | Mirell: i'm working really hard to get down to the guts operations of git |
| 19:51.20 | Mirell | prpplague: Heck, it's even free online: http://progit.org/book/ |
| 19:51.53 | Mirell | prpplague: It's buy one of the guys who maintains github |
| 19:52.01 | Mirell | prpplague: I bought a copy myself, incredibly helpful |
| 19:53.25 | prpplague | Mirell: yea i keep meaning to |
| 19:55.22 | Mirell | prpplague: Do it! Or read it online. |
| 19:56.25 | Mirell | The thing is, I hate git's interface. But unfortunately, for those weird bizarre things you need to do sometimes to a source control system, it has the tools. |
| 19:56.41 | Mirell | Mercurial is far easier to work with, but has a ways to mature. |
| 19:57.11 | Mirell | And bzr seems to only be used for Ubuntu projects |
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| 19:58.05 | Mirell | And darcs is used by the people who dream of bison and flex in their sleep |
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| 20:00.48 | prpplague | Mirell: my biggest issue is when i am creating patches, i'd like an easier way to revert them for testing |
| 20:00.54 | CosmicPenguin | stgit |
| 20:00.56 | CosmicPenguin | stgit |
| 20:01.01 | CosmicPenguin | so nice, I say it twice |
| 20:01.36 | calculus | you just wanted the rhyme in there |
| 20:03.33 | Mirell | Oh don't be square |
| 20:03.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i.e. i do a commit, generate a patch, go a last minute checkpatch on it and find a minor issue |
| 20:03.52 | Mirell | For a git trick, |
| 20:04.00 | Mirell | He had to be quick |
| 20:04.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'd like an easy way to do the correction |
| 20:04.19 | Mirell | And to do it two times, |
| 20:04.28 | Mirell | It does helps that it rhymes! |
| 20:04.54 | Mirell | prpplague: Depends if you're wanting to generate a patch, |
| 20:05.01 | Mirell | prpplague: Or a git export |
| 20:05.12 | CosmicPenguin | stgit |
| 20:05.13 | CosmicPenguin | seriously |
| 20:05.25 | CosmicPenguin | I mean, get reset --soft HEAD^ works in a pinch, but thats no way to live |
| 20:06.30 | calculus | I use git format-patch for generating patches |
| 20:07.16 | Mirell | Man |
| 20:07.25 | Mirell | My HyperMac battery is so many forms of awesome |
| 20:26.58 | prpplague | calculus: i do as well |
| 20:27.18 | Mirell | 30ish hours of power for me MacBook. |
| 20:32.31 | kergoth | just uses a lot of aliases for commit rewriting rather than stgit |
| 20:33.24 | prpplague | kergoth: 99% of the time i need to fix something is when i forgot to run checkpatch before doing the commit |
| 20:33.51 | kergoth | you can just add the changed files and git ci --amend if its the top commit |
| 20:34.09 | kergoth | otherwise you can stash the changes, rebase -i, and pop the stash onto the appropriate commit |
| 20:35.41 | kergoth | http://github.com/kergoth/homefiles/blob/master/.gitconfig |
| 20:35.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:35.47 | prpplague | i do the later |
| 20:35.55 | prpplague | not familiar with the first one |
| 20:36.23 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:36.29 | prpplague | does some reading |
| 20:36.46 | calculus | instead of stashing, you can do the commit, then rebase -i and rearrange and squash commits as needed |
| 20:38.19 | kergoth | yeah, that's true |
| 20:41.36 | prpplague | ahh git commit --amend is what i was looking for |
| 20:48.56 | calculus | yeah, I have git ci aliased as git commit |
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| 21:10.58 | prpplague | wow, the obama administration has actually done something i agree with - http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/27/new-immigration-policy-halt-illegal-immigrant-deportations/ |
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| 21:29.42 | Moulinex | Anyone familiar with 'SPI' firewall behaviour? |
| 21:31.11 | SpeedEvil | stateful packet inspection I think |
| 21:31.23 | SpeedEvil | I know little other than the name though |
| 21:38.27 | roxfan | why don't you ask the actual question? |
| 21:39.08 | Moulinex | If someone is trying to open tcp connection from outside network what happens? |
| 21:39.35 | Moulinex | tcp packet with syn |
| 21:40.55 | SpeedEvil | Generally it'll be blocked by most firewalls. |
| 21:41.03 | SpeedEvil | the packet is simply ignored |
| 21:41.18 | Moulinex | ok.. will there be nak ? or just no answer at all? |
| 21:41.24 | SpeedEvil | or a fake packet is sent back indicating nak |
| 21:41.31 | SpeedEvil | depends on the setup |
| 21:41.48 | SpeedEvil | naking enables smurf amplifiers. |
| 21:42.36 | Moulinex | how about 'fake packet' response? why is that? |
| 21:42.39 | SpeedEvil | Err - not smurf - I forget the term. |
| 21:42.52 | SpeedEvil | Because normally the system connected to would send the nak |
| 21:43.14 | SpeedEvil | however - the router is pretending to be the end device, not an intermediary |
| 21:44.59 | Moulinex | i'm thinking of system that would be only for web surfing and no servers inside.. in this case |
| 21:45.08 | Moulinex | .. what would be setup? |
| 21:45.29 | Moulinex | no answer at all for external connection attemps? |
| 21:45.30 | SpeedEvil | that'd just have no listening servers setup at all. |
| 21:45.39 | SpeedEvil | no real need for a firewall |
| 21:45.48 | SpeedEvil | if it's linux |
| 21:50.09 | Moulinex | SpeedEvil, i'm just thingking of pair of devices which takes peer to peer connection behind firewalls |
| 21:50.56 | SpeedEvil | you mean communicating over p2p to the world? |
| 21:51.25 | Moulinex | just these two devices would be communicating with each other |
| 21:51.46 | SpeedEvil | are the devices on either side of the firewall? |
| 21:52.37 | Moulinex | device 1 -> firewall <- internet -> firewall <- device 2 |
| 21:53.10 | Moulinex | do you know if firewalls accept ssh protocol going thru port 80? |
| 21:53.29 | Moulinex | is there some protocol check on firewalls? |
| 21:54.25 | Moulinex | 'higher level' protocol check |
| 21:55.54 | SpeedEvil | No. |
| 21:56.00 | SpeedEvil | Generally not. |
| 21:56.29 | SpeedEvil | You need either a server, or some other means. |
| 21:57.00 | SpeedEvil | For example, device1 and device2 locate themselves by talking to server1 on a known location. |
| 21:57.01 | Moulinex | ok, but then i can use http protocol to send basically same data.. |
| 21:57.08 | SpeedEvil | they then know their external IPs |
| 21:57.29 | Moulinex | SpeedEvil, yes, i have idea of making connection |
| 21:57.38 | Moulinex | how to make connection |
| 22:01.00 | SpeedEvil | upnp may also be of use |
| 22:01.11 | SpeedEvil | also google how skype does it. |
| 22:01.26 | SpeedEvil | However, these trypes of acrtivities may be frowned on by rthe firewall admins. |
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| 22:45.19 | Mirell | Forcing a company to admit their all-inclusive waiver of claims really can't be all inclusive is my victory for today. Yay, Texas Code. |
| 22:46.10 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 22:46.21 | SpeedEvil | You mean 'don't blame me if this catches fire' type disclaimers? |
| 22:47.19 | SpeedEvil | http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/08/27/217232/Garmin-Recalls-125M-Fire-Risk-Satnavs reminds me of. |
| 22:49.29 | Mirell | SpeedEvil: "Thus, EMPLOYEE acknowledges and agrees that this Agreement constitutes a full and final bar to any and all claims of any type that the EMPLOYEE now has or may have against COMPANY related to COMPANY's employment of and/or termination of EMPLOYEE." |
| 22:50.14 | Mirell | SpeedEvil: I asked if this barred Texas Unemployment claims, which there's both a law against any sort of contract barring that, and a criminal penalty if such a thing occurs |
| 22:50.39 | Mirell | SpeedEvil: They, smartly, and sheepishly, admitted no, it does not bar Texas Workforce Commission claims |
| 22:53.15 | SpeedEvil | Ah |
| 22:53.27 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 22:54.19 | Mirell | I didn't really have to do that, but since the fired me for no reason they could legally substantiate, and I did get a severance agreement with all these terms, I had to ask. |
| 22:54.43 | Mirell | I'm fairly certain I could have filed a lawsuit and potentially won over my firing, |
| 22:54.48 | Mirell | But lawsuits take $$$. |
| 22:55.01 | SpeedEvil | I assume everyone else in your position would have signed something similar. |
| 22:55.16 | Mirell | So instead, I took the severance agreement, and merely take joy in making them feel uncomfortable, |
| 22:55.25 | SpeedEvil | Oerhaps worth pointing out the standard defective contract to whoever would care? |
| 22:55.27 | Mirell | As well as they have to pay my unemployment benefits. |
| 22:55.34 | Mirell | Possibly. |
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| 23:43.54 | Mirell | Fired off another e-mail asking if revealing my direct manager got drunk at a company party and "fired" every one of his direct reports, then tried to fight a coworker was "Disparaging Information", or "Confidential Information". |
| 23:45.17 | kergoth | yikes |
| 23:45.25 | SpeedEvil | hehe. |
| 23:52.56 | Mirell | Yeah. It's a snipe, but since they're completely unable to give a reason for my firing to me or the Texas Workforce Commission, |
| 23:53.00 | Mirell | I don't feel guilty. |