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| 01:27.02 | NullMoogleCable | http://wtfmoogle.com/?p=1700 |
| 01:29.51 | m4t | neat |
| 01:29.55 | m4t | is that the one from k-mart? |
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| 01:46.04 | rlandley | Huh, I can log in from chick-fil-a wireless. |
| 01:46.13 | rlandley | But couldn't from qualcomm or from t-mobile. |
| 01:47.04 | rlandley | Mirell: I see you removed Aboriginal from the title here, I forgot to yank the reference from the web page but I'll do it now. |
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| 03:11.23 | landley | waves at miltonm. |
| 03:11.29 | landley | Do you still poke at powerpc? |
| 03:11.31 | miltonm | hi |
| 03:11.42 | landley | I tried to add ppc64 support, but it's not in uClibc. :P |
| 03:11.42 | miltonm | yes |
| 03:11.55 | landley | Darn it, I'll have to head out from chick-fil-a in a minute. They're closing. |
| 03:11.55 | miltonm | i just made gcc biarch and used 32 bit userspace |
| 03:12.16 | landley | Hmmm, I should try that... |
| 03:12.17 | miltonm | the kernel sets the flags for 64bit if you have a biarch default-32 compiler |
| 03:12.25 | miltonm | i have those somewhere let me look |
| 03:12.48 | landley | Darn it, email me please. I have to log off. :( |
| 03:12.51 | landley | (Timing!) |
| 03:13.08 | miltonm | GCC_FLAGS="--enable-biarch --enable-targets=powerpc-linux,powerpc64-linux --with-cpu=default32" |
| 03:13.17 | landley | Not sure where else I can log in from anymore, t-mobile no longer works with freenode due to freenode's server requiring some weird authentication. |
| 03:13.19 | miltonm | BINUTILS_FLAGS=--enable-targets=powerpc64-linux |
| 03:13.45 | landley | Thanks. I'll poke at it later, gotta go... |
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| 05:25.13 | landley | So I can log on here from home, but couldn't from Qualcomm, and can't via my t-mobile phone either. |
| 05:25.15 | landley | Odd. |
| 05:25.30 | landley | Not likely to be on much, I get mobbed by cats if I try to do much programming from home. |
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| 14:56.49 | RobotGuy | Mirell: Hallloooooooooooooo! |
| 14:58.53 | RobotGuy | is @hybotics and @n7pkt on Twitter. :) |
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| 17:26.26 | NullMoogleCable | http://iliketopoopinthe.pastebin.com/SiyJFQRN |
| 17:26.34 | NullMoogleCable | WOOT IT LOADED AND RAN THE KERNEL! |
| 17:29.03 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 20:22.19 | JViz | i'm getting a syntax error from module_param in a kernel module source file in eclipse |
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| 20:23.03 | JViz | it seems like some random definitions are thrown syntax errors |
| 20:23.12 | Allandrick | g'day folks |
| 20:24.14 | Allandrick | wondering if anyone here has played with usb gadgets (backend storage)? |
| 20:25.59 | JViz | allandrick: i'm trying to get setup to do that |
| 20:26.17 | Allandrick | awesome |
| 20:26.36 | Allandrick | I've been reading a few blogs that are a bit old but the premise seems sound |
| 20:26.48 | Allandrick | as usual I want to do something with a bit of a twist... |
| 20:27.31 | JViz | i'm trying to compile the zero driver with eclipse |
| 20:27.42 | Allandrick | I want to setup an embeded device that presents to a usb host as a storage device on one side, but on the other connect to a network attached storage share... |
| 20:28.27 | Allandrick | In principle I know it would work just using the standard setup but pointing the file backed storage to a device node that maps to an iSCSI target initiated from the embeded device, |
| 20:28.34 | Allandrick | however, |
| 20:28.55 | Allandrick | I would prefer to use nfs or smb as that would allow multiple access |
| 20:29.27 | Allandrick | whereas iSCSI wouldn't unless I happened to be using a filesystem which allowed multiple access, which I can't because as far as I know the only one that does is vmfs, which is proprietary (I think?) |
| 20:29.44 | Allandrick | does that all make sense? |
| 20:29.51 | JViz | yeah |
| 20:30.05 | Allandrick | can you guess the application? :-) |
| 20:30.12 | JViz | yeah |
| 20:30.31 | Allandrick | is it that obvious? :) |
| 20:30.35 | JViz | yes |
| 20:31.48 | Allandrick | well hardware is on the way - ordered a DNP/9200 dev kit. |
| 20:31.58 | Allandrick | so will have a play in a week or so i hope. |
| 20:33.19 | JViz | i'm just trying to get my environment setup |
| 20:33.53 | JViz | for making drivers |
| 20:34.48 | Allandrick | yeah not looking forward to that part |
| 20:35.32 | JViz | what are you going to use? |
| 20:36.40 | Allandrick | Not 100% sure yet, but the dnp comes with a cross compiler kti |
| 20:36.41 | Allandrick | kit |
| 20:36.52 | JViz | ah |
| 20:37.04 | Allandrick | so it'll be a linux environment of some sort, just not sure which yet |
| 20:37.31 | Allandrick | if I can get away with something simple like deb or centos, that'd make life easy - it'll be a VM on my esxi lab either way |
| 20:37.38 | Allandrick | so no GUI |
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| 21:23.56 | Allandrick | Oh god I just died and went to heaven: MMstm32F107 |
| 21:24.46 | SpeedEvil | yeah - they are nice looking |
| 21:27.01 | SpeedEvil | What would make them completely awesome would be an external RAM interface, and hi speed, not full. |
| 21:27.37 | SpeedEvil | is still waiting for linux in a $5 QFN-20 |
| 21:29.55 | Allandrick | yeah |
| 21:30.13 | Allandrick | not sure what's the difference between full/hi speed? |
| 21:30.40 | Allandrick | I'm also assuming they can boot from sd/mmc? |
| 21:31.08 | SpeedEvil | hi=480mbps, full = 12 |
| 21:31.13 | Allandrick | hmm |
| 21:31.14 | SpeedEvil | I think not |
| 21:31.29 | Allandrick | so would have to keep the kernel nice and tight |
| 21:31.33 | SpeedEvil | There is a rs232 hardware bootloader though. |
| 21:31.48 | SpeedEvil | You cannot brick it. |
| 21:32.01 | SpeedEvil | Well - unless you write the flash too many times - but don't do that. |
| 21:32.02 | Allandrick | aye but is 256kb enough for a kernel!? |
| 21:32.08 | SpeedEvil | a kernel for what? |
| 21:32.23 | SpeedEvil | It is quite enough for some sort of RTOS |
| 21:32.30 | Allandrick | but not linux I'm guessing |
| 21:32.56 | SpeedEvil | Basically linux has never booted in under... |
| 21:33.02 | SpeedEvil | 2 meg of RAM? |
| 21:33.13 | Allandrick | k |
| 21:33.18 | SpeedEvil | I used to know this. |
| 21:33.21 | SpeedEvil | But it's around there. |
| 21:33.43 | Allandrick | so you'd have to build your own code |
| 21:34.10 | SpeedEvil | Basically, yes. |
| 21:34.33 | SpeedEvil | There are no simple to use linux capable single package microcontrollers. |
| 21:35.28 | Allandrick | ah well so back to the MMnet1001 :) |
| 21:35.37 | Allandrick | that's at least got a gig of flash and 64M :P |
| 21:35.48 | Allandrick | and not that dearer. |
| 21:36.15 | SpeedEvil | What's that price in dollars? |
| 21:36.26 | SpeedEvil | Err - the stm107 series start at $8 or so. |
| 21:38.16 | SpeedEvil | Ah - $92 |
| 21:38.20 | SpeedEvil | which is quite a bit more |
| 21:38.41 | SpeedEvil | http://bifferos.bizhat.com/ which may also be interesting |
| 21:40.55 | Allandrick | yeah saw that too but it's non-device usb |
| 21:41.11 | Allandrick | interestingly the $42 F107 has a mass storage demo code base |
| 21:41.38 | Allandrick | that emulates a usb stick onto an sd card |
| 21:41.46 | Allandrick | filesystem independant |
| 21:41.47 | Allandrick | hmm |
| 21:42.00 | Allandrick | oh the hours I could waste on this |
| 21:42.01 | Allandrick | LOL |
| 22:05.28 | RobotGuy | SpeedEvil: I've got a Pico Node (Ham internet linking) running on my beagleboard now. :) |
| 22:05.39 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 22:05.52 | SpeedEvil | I've had fldigi up and running on my n900. |
| 22:06.20 | RobotGuy | SpeedEvil: I am talking full blown AllStarLink and EchoLink on a BeagleBoard. :) |
| 22:06.36 | SpeedEvil | Neat. |
| 22:07.15 | RobotGuy | Very neat indeed! Still in the debugging stages though, not quite ready for primetime. I have the only test site. |
| 22:08.03 | SpeedEvil | I'm sort-of-involved with high-altitude ballooning, which is fun. |
| 22:08.13 | SpeedEvil | 10mW/433MHz = 550km |
| 22:08.32 | RobotGuy | Very cool |
| 22:09.04 | SpeedEvil | Only 50bps |
| 22:09.15 | SpeedEvil | but that's fine to work out where it's landing with GPS |
| 22:09.21 | RobotGuy | I can't take credit for the programming for Pico Node though. I am just the support grunt on this project. :) |
| 22:09.38 | SpeedEvil | There is some shiny software involverd - live realtrime predictions using up-to-date wind data, and the balloons real position. |
| 22:09.38 | RobotGuy | Sounds like another very cool project. |
| 22:10.07 | SpeedEvil | Consumer cameras surprisingly generally work fine. |
| 22:10.41 | SpeedEvil | At ambient of -50 or so. Oh - distributed listeners too. |
| 22:11.28 | SpeedEvil | RobotGuy: the node thing is for remote repeaters solar powered? |
| 22:12.55 | RobotGuy | SpeedEvil: Well, not yet. More for portablility and low power right now. Battery power for now. |
| 22:13.32 | RobotGuy | SpeedEvil: It's for simplex nodes and repeater controllers. I have a simplex node. |
| 22:13.50 | SpeedEvil | I see. |
| 22:14.20 | RobotGuy | We need to move up to either a BeagleBoard-xM or PandaBoard to do a repeater controller. AllStarLink is a fork of the Asterisk PBX code. |
| 22:14.24 | SpeedEvil | I'm currently wondering at a 'massive' solar installation at home, based on the fact that I have lots of old bus-windows, and that solar cells bare on ebay are cheap. :) |
| 22:14.41 | SpeedEvil | What's the limit? |
| 22:14.42 | RobotGuy | Cool! |
| 22:14.43 | SpeedEvil | IO or CPU? |
| 22:15.01 | RobotGuy | Right now, the limit is CPU speed. |
| 22:16.35 | RobotGuy | With Panda being the same price as a Beagle-xM, it almost makes no sense to go with a Beagle-xM. ALMOST. |
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