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| 02:34.07 | Mirell | Maybe now prplague has gotten it out of his system. |
| 03:34.19 | Mirell | Finally: http://yfrog.com/2hmepfj |
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| 14:30.37 | dustin_ | I recently purchased an E-reader that seems to be using an embeded linux distro, so the questions are, how can I be sure, and how can I access the root F.S.? |
| 14:38.30 | SpeedEvil | Firstly - have you checked all of the manuals and packaging for a GPL offer. |
| 14:38.39 | SpeedEvil | Also any 'about product' dialogs or text files. |
| 14:45.17 | dustin_ | I cnat even find a company website yet |
| 14:45.42 | dustin_ | but tones of reviews of the product even though its been on the market less then a month |
| 14:47.36 | dustin_ | its a shift3 lookbook if you have access to more docs then I have found |
| 14:48.26 | SpeedEvil | I mean - look at the physical packaging you got with the device. |
| 14:48.55 | SpeedEvil | Where did you buy? |
| 14:49.14 | dustin_ | shopco salt lake |
| 14:49.55 | dustin_ | the docs in box were very limited but I havent read the E-manual yet |
| 14:50.08 | SpeedEvil | Do that - sometimes they hide the mention of GPL there. |
| 14:50.16 | SpeedEvil | In principle, the GPL offer can be anywhere. |
| 14:50.20 | SpeedEvil | Make sure it's not there. |
| 14:50.26 | SpeedEvil | Why do you think it's linux? |
| 14:50.45 | SpeedEvil | Also - can you download new firmware? |
| 14:50.50 | dustin_ | it uses sqlite database and a .conf file |
| 14:51.05 | dustin_ | I havent found a company site |
| 14:51.58 | dustin_ | the sqlite database is in the accessable mass storage portion |
| 14:52.08 | dustin_ | so it the .conf file |
| 14:52.34 | SpeedEvil | sqlite is PD |
| 14:52.49 | SpeedEvil | What does it ID as when you plug it in? |
| 14:53.25 | dustin_ | the mass storage title or the usb device title in command line? |
| 14:53.38 | SpeedEvil | lsusb -v |
| 14:53.53 | dustin_ | thats the command I was racking my brain for |
| 14:54.09 | SpeedEvil | Also - does it ID as anything else for a moment when rebooted |
| 14:54.27 | SpeedEvil | dmesg |
| 14:56.02 | dustin_ | wow I sudenly remember all the stuff I have plugged into usb ports.... |
| 14:57.03 | dustin_ | I am going to unplug about 12 things to narow my list give me one second |
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| 15:04.08 | dustin_ | ok I think I found it after unplugging a bunch of stuff 2 lins from lsusb -v Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0525:a4a5 Netchip Technology, Inc. Linux-USB File Storage Gadget |
| 15:04.08 | dustin_ | Device Descriptor: |
| 15:05.08 | dustin_ | SpeedEvil why did I add so much stuff to my computer? |
| 15:05.50 | SpeedEvil | Well - 'Linux-USB File Storage Gadget' implies pretty much that it's linux as I understand it. |
| 15:06.20 | SpeedEvil | In principle, if it is in fact linux, the store you bought it from is distrubuting unlicenced software. |
| 15:06.36 | SpeedEvil | In practice, getting them to cough up source is tricky. |
| 15:06.54 | SpeedEvil | Unless you can invoke slashdot. |
| 15:07.10 | dustin_ | the guy I bought it from wouldnt have known the difference if I would have called it a flat toaster |
| 15:11.20 | dustin_ | how do I invoke slashdot to this device? |
| 15:11.36 | dustin_ | or to any usb device?? |
| 15:14.22 | dustin_ | lmfao first page of about document in E-reader bold letters "Licesnes- LGPL" |
| 15:16.02 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 15:16.33 | dustin_ | it uses qt-embeded openbox and libusb along with a bunch of other realy familiar stuff |
| 15:16.59 | SpeedEvil | Does it give source links, or a place you may write to for source? |
| 15:20.11 | SpeedEvil | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/11/09/0526249/Telstra-Violating-the-GPL was what I meant |
| 15:21.10 | dustin_ | oh ok |
| 15:21.32 | dustin_ | sorry I get to thinking command line and forget there is a world out there with words too |
| 15:23.03 | dustin_ | I have been learning to code with perl lately and have gotten used to ./perlprogram |
| 15:25.27 | dustin_ | this is kinda vague about where to get a full copy of the software in use but gives me all the package names used to make the software in use |
| 15:26.34 | SpeedEvil | It is required to either give you a source copy, or an address to mail to get a full copy of the source on CD/DVD/... |
| 15:26.47 | SpeedEvil | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html |
| 15:27.11 | SpeedEvil | Specifically 3)c |
| 15:28.29 | dustin_ | hmmm |
| 15:28.49 | dustin_ | maybe in the 183 page doc I missed it I did a lot of skimming |
| 15:29.10 | dustin_ | I need to take a little while and read it through |
| 15:32.08 | dustin_ | this doc has a full copy of the text in the link you sent me to just now... |
| 15:35.56 | dustin_ | wow I hope this place didnt go out of business just as they releised this thing |
| 15:36.14 | dustin_ | released** |
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| 15:45.56 | dustin_ | SpeedEvil is there any mention about how easy it should be to access the source code or are they alloud to run you in circles for hours ? |
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| 15:59.45 | SpeedEvil | There are several loopholes on code availability. |
| 16:00.00 | SpeedEvil | Do they give an address to write to for copies? |
| 16:02.30 | dustin_ | no physical address is given in any docs that I can find |
| 16:03.01 | dustin_ | but I found there website adn they have a phone mon-fri 8am-6pm |
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