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| 00:13.05 | SpeedEvil | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html lol |
| 00:42.37 | dalias | lol? |
| 00:47.32 | SpeedEvil | It was down |
| 00:47.39 | SpeedEvil | This amused me. |
| 00:48.01 | SpeedEvil | And presenting the 'you have no permission to view this page' page |
| 00:50.23 | Evet | ironic |
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| 01:06.42 | dalias | :) |
| 01:09.53 | dalias | *sigh* why are elf .o files so bloated? |
| 01:10.13 | dalias | 800k of .o's for 150k of code |
| 01:29.47 | roxfan | debug info? |
| 01:30.01 | roxfan | also all the relocations |
| 01:30.11 | roxfan | and symbol strings |
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| 14:45.00 | roxfan | zipit2 for $10 http://www.valexonline.com/ZipIt_Wireless_Messenger_Z2A_B00115PR2O_s/41.htm |
| 14:55.26 | SpeedEvil | Meh - no ship to UK. |
| 14:55.39 | SpeedEvil | In practice though, I have enough shit to play with. |
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| 17:27.20 | prpplague | sjhill: hey bud |
| 17:29.25 | Crofton|work | the ascii art fft never gets old |
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| 17:33.49 | Exiles | prpplague may I pm you? |
| 17:34.12 | prpplague | Exiles: uh ok |
| 17:35.01 | chouimat | hi |
| 17:35.06 | prpplague | chouimat: hey bud |
| 17:36.35 | sjhill | hey prpplague |
| 17:38.39 | prpplague | welcomes Exiles back to #edev |
| 17:39.13 | chouimat | looks at his todo list and starts crying ... |
| 17:39.51 | prpplague | chouimat: amen |
| 17:40.07 | Exiles | thanks prpplague |
| 17:40.25 | chouimat | prpplague: too much to do ... |
| 18:03.13 | Mirell | Sigh. |
| 18:03.22 | prpplague | Mirell: hey bud |
| 18:03.28 | prpplague | Mirell: you're alive i see |
| 18:03.37 | Mirell | Dealing with a manager who claims he's doing agile development, |
| 18:03.48 | Mirell | But wants a functional spec and detailed design spec before any coding is done. |
| 18:03.56 | Mirell | prpplague: Ayup. |
| 18:04.21 | chouimat | Mirell: doesn't compute ;) |
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| 18:21.52 | Mirell | chouimat: Indeed. |
| 18:22.13 | Mirell | He also thinks unit tests don't need to run quickly. |
| 18:22.37 | Mirell | I'm struggling to find where he thinks any of this process is agile. |
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| 18:38.42 | chouimat | Mirell: lol |
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| 19:00.39 | swinchen | Are there any uC's that have development tools that are supported in Linux? MSP430 is an example of one that does not. |
| 19:01.27 | prpplague | swinchen: atmel avr's are pretty much 101% supported under linux |
| 19:02.19 | roxfan | swinchen: afaik msp-gcc and mspdebug work fine in linux |
| 19:02.53 | roxfan | most arm chips have pretty good linux support |
| 19:03.02 | swinchen | oooh I missed the word "officially" I am looking for a uC with tools that are officially supported. |
| 19:03.30 | roxfan | does official matter to you? |
| 19:03.50 | roxfan | what is your actual goal? |
| 19:04.06 | swinchen | I do ARM,AVR, and MSP430 right now. My department is looking for one officially supported. :/ it is a pain in the arse. p.s. mspdebug is sweet, too bad the supported device list is relatively small. |
| 19:04.25 | chouimat | ooh I see "marketing related" stuff |
| 19:04.44 | swinchen | Yeah, something like that. |
| 19:05.37 | chouimat | swinchen: even if the "official" tools are based on prehistorical linux version and toolchain |
| 19:07.42 | swinchen | I am sure. I was just put in charge of finding if any were officially supported. I honestly didn't question why... I just do my own thing. |
| 19:08.19 | roxfan | which arms do you use? or it doesn't matter? |
| 19:09.28 | swinchen | roxfan, I use (what used to be) LuminaryMicro Cortex-M3's |
| 19:09.45 | swinchen | minus the apostrophe. |
| 19:11.33 | roxfan | hmm i'm not sure if there's anything "official" for them... |
| 19:11.56 | roxfan | code_red have an ide for linux but it seems it's only available for lpcxpresso right now |
| 19:12.35 | chouimat | roxfan: i'm sure code sourcery might have something |
| 19:12.42 | roxfan | ah right |
| 19:12.51 | roxfan | how could i forget |
| 19:12.54 | chouimat | swinchen: http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp |
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| 19:17.40 | swinchen | Ahhh, thanks much. I will take a look. |
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| 20:08.42 | ja2 | swinchen: Im a stockholder of Atollic, you might want to try them out: http://www.atollic.com/index.php/targets |
| 20:11.23 | swinchen | Hmm, linux support? just browsing the website I don't see any mention of the host systems supported. |
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| 20:23.02 | new_dev | Hi all! |
| 20:24.23 | new_dev | had any one tried to write sdhci driver for linux (using spi)? |
| 20:24.41 | new_dev | i need some advices, where to start |
| 20:25.43 | SpeedEvil | Well - do you have a datasheet for the controller? |
| 20:25.57 | SpeedEvil | Or is it integrated into the SoC you're using |
| 20:26.58 | new_dev | some kind of emulation over SPI |
| 20:27.09 | new_dev | there is no real controller |
| 20:28.10 | new_dev | I'm new to SD card world :) |
| 20:28.38 | new_dev | but i know that we can communicate with using SPI |
| 20:35.31 | new_dev | SpeedEvil could you please confirm this point? is it possible to communicate with SD card in SPI mode? :s |
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| 20:42.02 | SpeedEvil | Sorry - was AFK |
| 20:42.09 | SpeedEvil | As I understand - yes, it is. |
| 20:42.48 | SpeedEvil | I'm not seeing a generic driver for accessing SD over SPI in the kernel though |
| 20:42.55 | SpeedEvil | I may be looking in the wrong place |
| 20:43.25 | SpeedEvil | http://list.drzeus.cx/mailman/listinfo/sdhci-devel are you aware of? |
| 20:44.06 | roxfan | i hear spi is not mandatory for microSD |
| 20:44.28 | roxfan | so you might theoretically find cards which won't work over spi |
| 20:44.39 | SpeedEvil | I heard people saying that too - though not repoerts of it not working |
| 20:48.56 | new_dev | i feel that this driver will be hard to develop! :s |
| 20:51.39 | SpeedEvil | I'd search the above list |
| 20:52.01 | new_dev | if SPI mode is not mandatory, this will complicate things |
| 21:03.02 | new_dev | SpeedEvil do you know any SoC with linux compatible sdio controller? |
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| 21:07.09 | SpeedEvil | Omap3530 - as found in n900 |
| 21:07.19 | SpeedEvil | And beagleboard |
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