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| 16:32.41 | prpplague | sjhill: ping |
| 16:36.59 | sjhill | prpplague: yessir |
| 16:37.12 | prpplague | sjhill: you looking for me earlier? |
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| 16:38.36 | sjhill | prpplague: yeah, i'm fine now...since i can't remember what i wanted |
| 16:38.44 | prpplague | okie dokie |
| 16:38.49 | prpplague | needs coffee |
| 16:39.03 | sjhill | got my panda up and going |
| 16:40.19 | prpplague | sjhill: dandy |
| 16:51.28 | chouimat | is still waiting for his ... |
| 16:51.59 | GPSFan | prpplague, ping, I got 2.6.38-rc4 compiled and booting, there is little (if any) change from 2.6.38-rc3. I'm not going to update the wiki until there is a significant change. |
| 16:52.36 | prpplague | GPSFan: can you just add a note that the instructions currently apply to -rc4 as well? |
| 16:52.56 | GPSFan | yeah, sure, the same .config works. |
| 16:53.48 | prpplague | GPSFan: whats next or your dev list? |
| 16:56.24 | GPSFan | prpplague, not sure, I was playing around with the hdmi stuff, but it seems that no more work is going on in that tree, and it is very different from what was in kernel 2.6.35, I'm watching patchwork, kernel.org, as a few other places for omap4 changes. |
| 16:58.59 | chouimat | prpplague: did you read the page about the omap5 on linuxfordevices? |
| 16:59.35 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, indeed i did |
| 16:59.49 | prpplague | updated his linkedin profile shortly after the annoucement |
| 16:59.57 | chouimat | prpplague: :) |
| 17:01.31 | prpplague | chouimat: if you have ideas for a community omap5 board, please share them asap |
| 17:01.44 | prpplague | sjhill: i think jay is going to want you working on android not ubuntu |
| 17:01.44 | chouimat | prpplague: I will ... put I have to test/try the panda first ... :) |
| 17:01.45 | chouimat | s/put/but |
| 17:04.46 | sjhill | prpplague: that's fine, the hardware being up was the important thing |
| 17:04.58 | prpplague | sjhill: indeed |
| 17:09.22 | GPSFan | prpplague, wiki updated. |
| 17:11.56 | prpplague | GPSFan: thanks |
| 17:12.34 | prpplague | GPSFan: hey, one thing that would be easy but would be really appreciated would be a nice how to on adding the two additional usb ports |
| 17:13.00 | GPSFan | prpplague, via the j6 connector? |
| 17:13.22 | prpplague | yea |
| 17:13.42 | prpplague | GPSFan: basically just need to solder in a 2x5 header and then you can use the standard PC usb cables |
| 17:14.28 | prpplague | GPSFan: be nice to get some pictures and instructions |
| 17:14.30 | GPSFan | prpplague, I'll see what I can come up with, I have one of those dual usb thingys so I might give it a go. |
| 17:14.48 | prpplague | GPSFan: apparently people don't realize that you can easily do that |
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| 17:27.45 | GPSFan | prpplague, found my usb thingy, so I'll have something (hopefully) later today. |
| 17:27.57 | prpplague | GPSFan: great! |
| 17:28.11 | prpplague | GPSFan: some of them are 4 pin but most are 5 pin |
| 17:30.14 | GPSFan | prpplague, putting in a 2x5 header will have the usb shields going to pins 9 & 10 of j6 which are GPIOs. |
| 17:30.53 | prpplague | GPSFan: oh right we changed that |
| 17:31.06 | prpplague | GPSFan: sorry the early revs of the board had the shield there |
| 17:31.11 | prpplague | GPSFan: but we dropped that |
| 17:31.15 | prpplague | GPSFan: so just do a 2x4 |
| 17:34.47 | GPSFan | yep. |
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| 18:35.16 | GPSFan | prpplague, ping --> http://elinux.org/Panda_How_to_add_2_USBs |
| 18:37.25 | prpplague | GPSFan: dandy, one nit pick item, can you add some info on the polarity/orientation of the connections? |
| 18:37.55 | GPSFan | prpplague, sure. |
| 18:44.25 | chouimat | GPSFan: I like your choice of words ... |
| 18:47.14 | GPSFan | chouimat, ;>)) |
| 18:57.19 | GPSFan | prpplague, updated with pin orientation info. |
| 18:58.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: thanks |
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| 19:11.45 | prpplague | landley: hey hey |
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| 19:34.12 | landley | Hiya prpplague. How goes? |
| 19:34.30 | landley | sjhill: I found the -mfdpic thing. Sending a patch to the list as soon as the test build finishes. |
| 19:34.32 | prpplague | landley: it goes |
| 19:34.42 | landley | It was a config issue, but the config was really stupid. |
| 19:35.10 | landley | Starbucks is playing "I got you babe" because it's February, but it's not February _2_. |
| 19:35.19 | landley | That song is for a specific day. |
| 19:39.57 | prpplague | GPSFan: cleaned it up a little |
| 19:41.01 | GPSFan | prpplague, very nice, thanks...;>) |
| 19:42.30 | landley | I still can't figure out Mike Frysinger. |
| 19:42.49 | landley | He's very active. He obviously spends a bunch of time studying stuff and knows a lot. |
| 19:42.56 | landley | Heck, he's more or less blackfin maintainer. |
| 19:43.22 | landley | But every time I track down some technical thing I just _utterly_ disagree with, that shows a massive disregard for anything but the shortest-term goal with no interest in long term sustainability... |
| 19:43.24 | landley | Mike did it. |
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| 19:44.07 | landley | The commit I referenced at the end introducing the -mfdpic bug: it was Mike, turning an FRV-only option into a generic option (despite lack of compiler support for it on any other platform), not bothering to put in a config help comment or explain anything in the commit message. |
| 19:44.26 | landley | He was the one arguing to DEFEND the massive pointless infrastructure I just posted a patch to remove, last time I brought it up. |
| 19:44.42 | landley | He's clearly not stupid. He's clearly not ignorant. |
| 19:44.56 | landley | I just... consistently and completely disagree with his technical judgement. |
| 19:45.03 | landley | Not sure how to feel about that. |
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| 19:46.21 | landley | For example, during the brief period Erik handed off uClibc maintainership to Mike, he A) maintained an out-of-tree blackfin uClibc fork and made no effort to get it upstream, B) vanished from the mailing list for three months. |
| 19:46.33 | landley | That's sort of missing the whole point of what it means to maintain a project, isn't it? |
| 19:47.36 | landley | It's like there's something I'm missing, but I can't figure out what... |
| 19:47.37 | landley | Oh well. |
| 19:50.08 | chouimat | hands a nice coffee to landley ... here relax ;) |
| 19:50.30 | landley | I don't do coffee, but I'm at a starbucks with a hot chocolate and tea. |
| 19:50.33 | landley | Very nice tea. |
| 19:50.46 | roxfan | i'he probably |
| 19:50.53 | landley | The british recruiter lady who hooked me up with the Parallels job sent me a box of Marks and Spenser "everyday tea". |
| 19:51.06 | landley | It is awesome, but I was told it would be back when I learned out how to make proper tea. |
| 19:51.12 | roxfan | i'd guess he probably works on his own project and doesn't care much about the big picture |
| 19:51.28 | landley | http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A61345 |
| 19:51.40 | chouimat | landley: I'm at home and even it's cold outside I have 2 windows opened, my neighbors heat like crazy in this building |
| 19:51.46 | landley | roxfan: That's true, but he also works on uClibc, busybox, and the kernel. |
| 19:52.25 | landley | chouimat: Austin has gone from 70 degree weather to 20 degree weather overnight three times this month. |
| 19:52.37 | landley | One of them was high of 80, low of 18. |
| 19:52.40 | landley | That was kind of impressive. |
| 19:53.10 | chouimat | landley: we had -35C for a few days 2 weeks ago |
| 19:53.29 | landley | roxfan: I think I'm confused by the "not care" part. If you don't care, why are you doing Linux? |
| 19:53.38 | roxfan | heh |
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| 19:54.00 | landley | I despise NFS with a fiery passion, but that just means I'm working on making cifs, sshfs, and v9fs work very well when I take breaks fron hacking through the NFS source. |
| 19:54.26 | roxfan | you have some hw that you need to work... you take the code, hack until it works then maybe send the changes back |
| 19:54.27 | landley | (And I've even sent cleanup patches to NFS when it got too obviously stupid, even though I want it to GO AWAY.) |
| 19:54.31 | landley | It really is the cobol of filesystems. |
| 19:55.04 | chouimat | landley: I know a few who don't care ... but they work for companies that don't care which crap you but in the stuff |
| 19:55.08 | landley | He consistently works on projects long enough to wind up in a position of authority. |
| 19:55.14 | landley | More than once. |
| 19:55.34 | landley | He's been around for at least 5 years on these projects, and still is. |
| 20:02.19 | landley | WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE NFS DEVELOPERS? AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:02.23 | landley | Right, wandering away from the keyboard for a bit. |
| 20:05.38 | landley | And back. With vanilla scones. |
| 20:05.45 | landley | Vanilla scones make NFS much more tolerable. |
| 20:05.46 | chouimat | hehe |
| 20:19.38 | landley | Hey, a kernel memory leak in the NFS mount code. Who'da thunk? |
| 20:26.07 | prpplague | wmat: file uploads are still not working correctly |
| 20:38.53 | chouimat | landley: you a) are masochistic or b) have a weird sense of what is fun in life ;) |
| 20:45.25 | prpplague | chouimat: uh, my money is on both |
| 20:46.34 | chouimat | hehe |
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| 22:01.48 | prpplague | sjhill: maybe you can try GPSFan 's new how to for adding two more usb ports |
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