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| 02:59.11 | MonMotha | Stupid dumb U-Verse gateway |
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| 03:19.19 | ken__ | what's the status of hrtimer support on arm and mips? I can't seem to get a clear answer from the current mainline |
| 03:20.22 | prpplague | ken__: i know there are some patches working their way through, but i don't know right off the top of my head as i rarely have need of them |
| 03:20.56 | ohsix | are there timer sources? i'd look for those, if the arch supports it and has the timers to do it then it does it |
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| 14:23.01 | chouimat | morning |
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| 16:09.19 | prpplague | wmat: any news? |
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| 16:38.34 | prpplague | kergoth: thoughts - http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Yocto-and-OpenEmbedded-partnership-announced/ |
| 16:38.55 | chouimat | prpplague: hi |
| 16:39.03 | prpplague | chouimat: hey frenchy |
| 16:39.17 | prpplague | chouimat: whats cookin in ottawa? |
| 16:39.41 | chouimat | prpplague: nothing much another slow day :( |
| 16:45.14 | kergoth | prpplague: yep, was basically waiting for that announcement since the summit happened. it's good news for yocto, and good news for oe |
| 16:45.28 | kergoth | argh |
| 16:45.40 | kergoth | needs to do emissions testing today, boo |
| 16:51.23 | prpplague | kergoth: why? are you eating too much tex-mex? |
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| 16:57.33 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe |
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| 17:07.21 | wmat | prpplague: nuthin! granted, it is only 9:06am |
| 17:07.47 | wmat | prpplague: saw the oe + yocto announcement yesterday |
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| 17:08.14 | wmat | prpplague: was it mallum who was the or guy? |
| 17:08.39 | chouimat | wonders what is the point of using git if each time he asks for new patches from this customer they send him a DVD with the whole repository exported ... today will be fun :( |
| 17:09.23 | prpplague | wmat: sorry i did not understand your question |
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| 17:10.59 | wmat | prpplague: sorry, oe guy? Was mallum one of the leaders of oe? Or am I mistaken? |
| 17:12.52 | prpplague | wmat: yes and no, he did the spin of Poky, his company was open hand, which was purchased by intel, which intel used for the core of yocto(as i understand it), which from what i understand certain parts are getting merged back together with OE |
| 17:13.00 | prpplague | wmat: kergoth might be able to explain it better |
| 17:14.22 | kergoth | mallum owned o-hand. richard basically did the technical work to create poky, as I understand it |
| 17:14.30 | kergoth | which is just a more polished subset of OE |
| 17:15.14 | wmat | ah |
| 17:16.16 | kergoth | if you meant in the context of this channel, i'd be the oe guy, i basically drove its creation and was one of the initial coders, and used to maintain it |
| 17:17.01 | kergoth | a few years after it started, poky started as ohand's oe based metadata repository. many companies did the same sort of thing, of course, it was and is a common thing to do, take oe as a starting point and pull what you need and only what you need and go |
| 17:17.21 | kergoth | but poky has become a solid stable core set of metadata that will now become the core of oe |
| 17:18.59 | chouimat | cool |
| 17:19.28 | wmat | kergoth: so did many o-hand people join intel? or were there many? |
| 17:19.54 | kergoth | going forward, poky will be basically a wrapper around the new poky-based oe-core, pulling it together with some other useful bits and convenience scripts and the like. and of course yocto is the umbrella project that encompasses poky and other useful projects |
| 17:20.03 | kergoth | that i'm not sure about |
| 17:20.07 | kergoth | would have to ask one of those guys |
| 17:22.14 | wmat | yocto seems to be gaining some momemntum at least, which can't be bad |
| 17:23.50 | kergoth | anything we can do to try to share some of the annoying common work every company has to do if they want to maintain an embedded linux distribution has to be good. there's very little real value to this core stuff, the value is in the products people build based on it |
| 17:30.05 | wmat | agreed |
| 17:32.41 | wmat | prpplague: grrr, my wife just had to write a check to UPS for the TCT delivery |
| 17:32.53 | prpplague | wmat: doh? |
| 17:32.57 | prpplague | wmat: for what vat? |
| 17:33.10 | wmat | don't know yet, I've emailed her |
| 17:42.30 | wmat | she doesn't know, but I'm assuming some kind of import tax |
| 17:48.18 | wmat | in retrospect, I probably should have looked for a Canadian reseller. I think robotshop.ca sells TCT stuff. |
| 17:53.34 | chouimat | wmat: that's new? |
| 17:53.45 | wmat | chouimat: dunno |
| 17:55.15 | wmat | chouimat: i also could be wrong, but I thought it was them |
| 17:55.57 | chouimat | wmat: robotcraft.ca |
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| 19:04.26 | wmat | chouimat|lunch: ah |
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| 19:42.14 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 19:42.20 | prpplague | wmat: this waiting is killing me |
| 19:48.19 | wmat | prpplague: ditto! |
| 19:49.13 | wmat | prpplague: i've resorted to sitting here hitting refresh in my mail client every 15 seconds |
| 19:49.58 | prpplague | HA |
| 20:12.00 | roxfan | waiting for what? |
| 20:12.30 | calculus | probably speaker schedule for ELC in April |
| 20:12.33 | prpplague | roxfan: wmat is waiting for a job offer, and i'm waiting to see if my presentation was accepted for ELC |
| 20:12.55 | roxfan | i see |
| 20:13.29 | prpplague | roxfan: actually, i'm waiting on wmat job offer too, reality tv(or irc) type stuff, hehe |
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| 20:14.32 | prpplague | "next time on EDEV, will wmat get a job offer, will prpplague go to ELC, and kergoth actually make any sense when talking? next time on EDEV" |
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| 20:20.31 | wmat | heh |
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| 20:26.10 | prpplague | orbarron: greetings |
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| 20:32.09 | Crofton|work | how can I make the kernel write to a eal hw address, without all this ioremapping ribbish |
| 20:33.26 | prpplague | Crofton|work: eal == real ? |
| 20:33.33 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 20:33.35 | Crofton|work | yeh |
| 20:33.57 | Crofton|work | I ioremap and use writew just fine |
| 20:34.07 | prpplague | Crofton|work: depending on the SoC platform, there usually is a physical address function that can be used in the kernel |
| 20:34.14 | Crofton|work | omap3 |
| 20:34.21 | Crofton|work | yeah that is what I need |
| 20:34.39 | Crofton|work | http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/5490211992/in/photostream/ |
| 20:34.51 | prpplague | Crofton|work: one sec |
| 20:37.38 | prpplague | Crofton|work: you can use __raw_readl(phys_address) and __raw_writel(value, phys_address) |
| 20:38.37 | Crofton|work | thanks |
| 20:38.44 | Crofton|work | pretty much confirming what I see |
| 20:41.45 | Crofton|work | __raw_writew(0 even :) |
| 20:44.07 | Crofton|work | not crashing ..... |
| 20:44.58 | Crofton|work | crash |
| 20:45.13 | prpplague | doh |
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| 21:00.16 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 21:08.44 | chouimat | ok I think it's enough for today ... 3 hours looking at a 200MB patch is driving me crazy |
| 21:09.51 | prpplague | chouimat|away: wth? 200MB patch? |
| 21:11.39 | chouimat|away | prpplague: clueless customer ... they don't want to give me access to their internal svn so they send me latest stuff (exported) on a dvd insted of a patch set now I have to find what changed between their version and my tree .. so much fun ... |
| 21:11.56 | prpplague | chouimat|away: jeeze |
| 21:12.13 | chouimat|away | prpplague: they pay well but not enough ... another 2 months of this shit |
| 21:12.23 | prpplague | chouimat|away: i hope you are charging extra, invoice item #22 - stupidity fee %15 |
| 21:12.30 | chouimat|away | lol |
| 21:13.43 | chouimat|away | prpplague: at least the are using svn internally for a year before that they were using an inhouse thing using script tar and backup tapes ... |
| 21:14.05 | prpplague | chouimat|away: double jeeze |
| 21:14.23 | prpplague | chouimat|away: well i've always been a fan of cvs, but i'm really starting to understand git |
| 21:14.32 | prpplague | ~seen cosmicpenguin |
| 21:14.37 | purl | cosmicpenguin <~nobody@207-114-132-30.static.twtelecom.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 85d 23h 48m 5s ago, saying: 'but the performance question was a new one for me'. |
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| 21:14.45 | chouimat|away | and I'm starting to think they have a hook that reformat every commits ... |
| 21:14.48 | prpplague | needs to send an email to cosmic |
| 21:15.09 | prpplague | chouimat|away: ive seen that with cvs and svn |
| 21:15.23 | chouimat|away | prpplague: now you understand why I get a 200MB one ... |
| 21:17.53 | chouimat|away | prpplague: and I saw thing today that made my eyes bleed ... one of the employee rewrote one of my patch because it looked way too simple and it's wasn't clever enough ... the problem is now this portion of the code take 3x time to run |
| 21:19.21 | chouimat|away | anyway bbl... will got watch some tv, just to calm down :) |
| 21:19.51 | prpplague | chouimat|away: later |
| 21:23.25 | chouimat|away | prpplague: I'm starting to regret the decision of not taking this week off and go with my gf and her parents to Cuba :) |
| 21:23.38 | prpplague | chouimat|away: doh |
| 21:27.10 | Crofton|work | that is the funniest thing about being in the Toronto airport |
| 21:27.19 | Crofton|work | all the ads for vacations in Cuba |
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