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| 01:45.03 | gandhijee | anyone know of a cheap USB to CF controller? |
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| 01:46.00 | prpplague | gandhijee: the only ones you are going to find will be for ATA mode |
| 01:46.13 | prpplague | gandhijee: almost everything else has been obsoleted |
| 01:46.21 | gandhijee | O |
| 01:46.45 | gandhijee | is there something for SD card then? |
| 01:47.23 | prpplague | gandhijee: yea there are a wide range for sd |
| 01:47.39 | gandhijee | cool |
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| 01:52.48 | gandhijee | prpplague: is there an IC you can recommend? the google search i pulled up has parts, but i can't seem to find them at arrow or avnet. or recommend another place to purchase said IC |
| 01:53.15 | SpeedEvil | Why? |
| 01:53.28 | SpeedEvil | Rather than buying one of the widely available SD readers? |
| 01:55.27 | gandhijee | customer doesn't want to use an off the shelf one for some reason |
| 01:57.58 | SpeedEvil | I can't think of an off-the-shelf one. |
| 01:58.01 | prpplague | gandhijee: what qty are you looking for? |
| 01:58.07 | SpeedEvil | off-the-shelf USB->SATA - yes |
| 01:58.19 | gandhijee | like 5 pcs right now, later it will be 1000+ |
| 01:58.45 | prpplague | http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Maxim-Integrated-Products/MAX14502AETL+/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtOXy69nW9rM7v8T7cI74Dz6EPeNJEjhIs%3d |
| 01:58.52 | prpplague | i've used that one on small projects |
| 01:58.58 | gandhijee | ahh thats the one i didn't think about checking, mouser |
| 01:59.01 | gandhijee | thanks prpplague |
| 01:59.16 | prpplague | but if you want 1000 pieces you might run into some trouble |
| 02:00.34 | SpeedEvil | Stupidly expensive. |
| 02:00.36 | SpeedEvil | But... |
| 02:00.57 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: indeed |
| 02:01.18 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: i had a part that i got in bulk from overseas, but i can't seem to find the datasheet for it |
| 02:04.11 | gandhijee | i found these realtek ones, but i can't find anyone here that seems to have any |
| 02:05.16 | SpeedEvil | You could look on the various parts vendors websites - the secondary ones. |
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| 04:24.14 | prpplague | kergoth: up late? |
| 04:24.26 | kergoth | not particularly, no. only 9:30 here |
| 04:33.12 | MonMotha | does anyone happen to know of a mini-PCIe card with a SATA host (and standard connector) on it? |
| 04:33.38 | MonMotha | I've got a desktop mobo that has a mini-PCIe (but not a standard PCIe) slot. It only has 2 SATA ports, but I'd like at least one more |
| 04:34.47 | prpplague | MonMotha: i think i have a couple bookmarked at the office, i was looking at trying to implement mini-PCIe on the panda at one time |
| 04:35.03 | MonMotha | prpplague: cool |
| 04:35.28 | MonMotha | my life finding them is made difficult by the fact that apparently Intel and Sandisk have decided to use the mini-PCIe connector with SATA signaling for SSDs |
| 04:35.35 | MonMotha | I believe they're calling it mSATA |
| 04:36.10 | MonMotha | an actual mini-PCIe SSD would also work, but I can't find any of those |
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| 13:22.11 | gandhijee | MonMotha: there is a company that makes a mini-PCIe to PCIe breakout board |
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| 14:50.44 | enlight22 | anyone awake? |
| 14:52.11 | wmat | always |
| 15:08.39 | enlight22 | ahh |
| 15:10.31 | enlight22 | got heh, so im trying to find an unmarked serial RX line on this scs-26uc |
| 15:20.55 | wmat | googling tells me it has a serial port in the hdmi socket |
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| 16:21.45 | enlight22 | wmat: sorry, got a phone call, as u can see in the picture, ther is no hdmi socket, fcc id database shows there have been 6 revisions, and this one is the second oldest, they have made alot of changes to the newer ones |
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| 20:15.52 | a7r | anyone have an efika mx smartbook? I'm trying to track down a review, but information is thin. |
| 20:22.18 | prpplague | a7r: i was looking at getting one too |
| 20:22.25 | prpplague | a7r: but didn't see any reviews either |
| 20:23.18 | SpeedEvil | Is that the arm thing? |
| 20:23.49 | SpeedEvil | is waiting for the new nokia meego thingy, before deciding on other play hardware. |
| 20:25.38 | prpplague | speakman: yea |
| 20:38.43 | mnemoc | genesi dropped the prices to 50% last week... and all the code is on github. only my horniness regarding the notion ink (pixelqi) tablet is blocking me to get one |
| 20:39.00 | kergoth_ | man, i want a pixel qi tablet so bad |
| 20:39.03 | kergoth_ | i don't care if its notion ink's |
| 20:39.06 | kergoth_ | i just want that screen in the sun |
| 20:39.22 | mnemoc | neither do i, but they are the only selling devices with it |
| 20:40.25 | roxfan | i've heard that pixel qi turned out to be not that hot |
| 20:40.56 | prpplague | new episodes of pioneer one to be release this month |
| 20:41.11 | prpplague | plus the release of the first part of atlas shrugged |
| 20:41.32 | prpplague | roxfan: its pretty interesting if the full features are used |
| 20:41.49 | prpplague | roxfan: problem is to retro fit a netbook, you really don't get all the features |
| 20:41.51 | roxfan | yeah they all sound amazing in PRs |
| 20:42.37 | prpplague | roxfan: i have a pixel qi working with the panda |
| 20:43.02 | prpplague | kergoth_: yea my problem is you can order the pixel qi, but not with a touch screen |
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| 20:57.20 | mnemoc | prpplague: 10" or 7"? |
| 20:57.40 | prpplague | mnemoc: i have th 10.1" |
| 20:58.11 | mnemoc | is it supported by the stock linux kernel yet? |
| 20:58.34 | prpplague | mnemoc: well...... thats kind of a loaded question |
| 20:58.46 | mnemoc | :) |
| 20:59.08 | prpplague | mnemoc: it all depends on your hardware platform |
| 21:00.47 | mnemoc | i thought those panels had a built-in controller and that one needed it's own module... my ignorance :( |
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| 21:16.47 | prpplague | mnemoc: sorry back |
| 21:17.10 | prpplague | mnemoc: yes they have an internal controller, but he interface to it is basically a semi standard lvds lcd interface |
| 21:17.39 | prpplague | mnemoc: hence the reason you can take the pixel qi and replace the lcd in many 10.1" netbooks |
| 21:18.01 | mnemoc | nice :) |
| 21:18.10 | prpplague | mnemoc: the many features come into play with a i2c interface and two backlight control lines |
| 21:18.25 | prpplague | mnemoc: depending on the two backlight control lines you can configure the display mode |
| 21:18.55 | prpplague | mnemoc: problem is that many of the netbooks don't offer direct control over those backlight lines from the OS |
| 21:19.14 | prpplague | mnemoc: so not all netbook hardware is capable of using the full features |
| 21:19.44 | prpplague | mnemoc: i.e. the backlight control is off loaded to a sub processor controller |
| 21:22.10 | mnemoc | but in the hypotheical case of arm netbooks that should always be available, right? |
| 21:22.22 | prpplague | mnemoc: in theory yes |
| 21:22.47 | prpplague | mnemoc: most of the x86 netbooks tend to have alot abstraction of the subsystems |
| 21:25.59 | mnemoc | so you think there will be x86 socs? |
| 21:26.05 | mnemoc | err |
| 21:26.09 | mnemoc | s/so/do/ |
| 21:26.42 | prpplague | mnemoc: i am sorry i did not understand your question |
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| 21:27.28 | mnemoc | x86 tends to have lots of different chips and abstractions |
| 21:28.18 | mnemoc | which seems to me wont have much place in the future |
| 21:29.18 | mnemoc | so i just wondered if they would switch to a more arm-alike style where there is a single chip including all the functionality |
| 21:30.01 | mnemoc | reducing costs, size and at the same time give more control to the OS |
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| 21:31.07 | prpplague | mnemoc: yes and they are moving in that direction, however x86 has lot of legacy to support |
| 21:31.17 | prpplague | mnemoc: most arm stuff doesn't |
| 21:37.55 | mnemoc | prpplague: returning to the original question, does this mean one can just connect a pixelqi 10.1" panel to an efika mx smartbook and it will work? |
| 21:38.18 | prpplague | mnemoc: oh i didn't know that was the gist of the question |
| 21:38.37 | prpplague | mnemoc: i would not be able to tell until i took one apart |
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| 21:38.49 | prpplague | mnemoc: most likely yes |
| 21:38.50 | mnemoc | prpplague: i didn't verbalize it :p |
| 21:39.14 | prpplague | but until someone actually checks and posts there is no way to tell |
| 21:47.20 | mnemoc | i'll make some noise in genesi's forum :p |
| 21:47.36 | mnemoc | prpplague: thanks a lot for your enlightenment |
| 21:48.19 | prpplague | mnemoc: if you can get the make and model of the display current being used, we can cross reference it |
| 21:49.00 | roxfan | mnemoc: there are x86-based SoCs but they aren't very common |
| 21:49.36 | roxfan | e.g. canon cameras ran on x86 several years ago |
| 21:50.04 | mnemoc | o.o |
| 21:50.31 | roxfan | http://www.dpreview.com/news/9902/99022402canonromdos.asp |
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| 22:35.04 | SpeedEvil | There are cheap x86 embedded stuff out there. |
| 22:35.14 | SpeedEvil | Neglecting the 386ex inside my garmin GPS12 |
| 22:35.30 | SpeedEvil | http://bifferos.bizhat.com/ |
| 22:35.45 | SpeedEvil | 150MHz CPU, Intel 486SX instruction set, MMU. 1 watt power consumption (200mA @5v) |
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