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| 01:55.01 | vvthecat | anyone knows hot to get an Itaskx 2.8 serial |
| 01:55.17 | prpplague | no clue even what that is |
| 01:55.23 | prpplague | can you give some background info? |
| 01:56.17 | vvthecat | its a project manager for mac... |
| 01:56.52 | vvthecat | have the download and a patch.. the patch is not working.. need to unlock it... |
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| 01:58.53 | prpplague | vvthecat: unlock it? |
| 01:59.03 | prpplague | vvthecat: are you talking about pirating software? |
| 01:59.40 | vvthecat | i'm talking about sharing software |
| 02:00.37 | vvthecat | sharing a serial. |
| 02:00.41 | prpplague | vvthecat: well let me rephrase, are you trying to disable or circumvent the copy protection of a copyrighted material that is not open source licensed? |
| 02:02.17 | vvthecat | yes |
| 02:03.03 | prpplague | vanquish: ok, well you misunderstand the purpose of this channel, we do not support or approve of violation of copyrights or license violations |
| 02:03.50 | prpplague | vvthecat: ok, well you misunderstand the purpose of this channel, we do not support or approve of violation of copyrights or license violations |
| 02:03.56 | prpplague | vanquish: sorry that wasn't for you |
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| 02:18.56 | a7r | haha |
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| 13:16.34 | vanquish | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.44 | vanquish | and i was like...wtf? THIS IS IRC |
| 13:20.13 | madsy | prpplague: Does circumventing copy protection itself means that copyright infridgement follows? |
| 13:20.47 | madsy | I use DeCSS all the time to copy my DVDs. |
| 13:21.05 | MonMotha | heck, I use DeCSS to WATCH my DVDs |
| 13:21.16 | madsy | That too |
| 13:21.21 | MonMotha | I wish there was a DeBD+. I'd probably buy more Blu-Rays |
| 13:21.56 | MonMotha | (note to the copyright police reading that statement: I didn't misspeak) |
| 13:22.09 | madsy | prpplague: What you probably mean is that #edev does not discuss anything that breaks US law. But that's different. |
| 13:23.10 | madsy | I fortunately live in a country where breaking copy protection systems is allowed for the sake of interoptability and compatibility :) |
| 13:24.18 | MonMotha | well, that's in theory what the relevant US laws say |
| 13:24.29 | MonMotha | in practice, that doesn't seem to apply in most cases |
| 13:26.56 | madsy | Nah. Neither the DMCA or CFAA gives excemption for compatibility or interoptability. |
| 13:27.13 | madsy | *maybe* for crypto research alone, I don't remember. |
| 13:31.10 | MonMotha | I agree, section (f) is not particularly strong |
| 13:31.21 | MonMotha | (of the DMCA) |
| 13:33.39 | vanquish | hey so the blu ray key was released a while back, right? |
| 13:34.07 | vanquish | but nobody is too worried about it, because you basically need a chip to be able to use it? |
| 13:35.25 | MonMotha | I'm not aware of any total compromise of BD+ at this time. AACS (which was used on HD-DVD as the sole method of "content protection" and is also used on Blu-Ray as one layer of "protection") is completely compromised |
| 13:35.37 | MonMotha | HDCP is also completely compromised |
| 13:35.53 | MonMotha | I'm not sure if the recent PS3 compromise has any impact on Blu-Ray or not |
| 13:36.12 | vanquish | maybe i was thinking of hdcp |
| 13:36.25 | vanquish | which, is just as good right? |
| 13:36.36 | vanquish | even if blu ray is secure, if hdcp is not, then what's the point? |
| 13:37.32 | madsy | Well, capturing a hdcp stream requires a bit more work than just removing the Blue Ray protection :) |
| 13:38.31 | vanquish | how's that? |
| 13:38.40 | MonMotha | and it also will involve a generational loss on the compression, assuming you want to recompress it (which you probably do) |
| 13:38.49 | MonMotha | it also requires hardware |
| 13:38.58 | MonMotha | (and hardware that is not commonly available to consumers) |
| 13:39.35 | madsy | Anyway, I don't want to get booted off the channel, so that's enough from me. |
| 13:41.12 | vanquish | hah |
| 13:42.06 | vanquish | i'm sure some guy has an fpga or something on his workbench right now that can tap hdcp already |
| 13:42.11 | vanquish | muses |
| 13:45.31 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:47.47 | vanquish | eyyo |
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| 14:45.03 | MonMotha | anybody in here happen to work on CRT monitors? |
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| 14:59.39 | chouimat | prpplague: good morning |
| 15:00.09 | prpplague | greetings |
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| 15:02.15 | chouimat | is currently abusing his new build setup by compiling meego, android and symbian ;) |
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