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| 16:21.30 | landley | Still no 3.0... |
| 16:21.57 | landley | I am amused by the idea that the android guys will be on 2.x until they rebase their kernel. :) |
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| 16:42.05 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: what were some of the screen replacements you were talking about the other day? |
| 16:43.16 | kergoth | right now I'm using tmux |
| 16:43.26 | kergoth | I heard byobu is decent, bu tits just a frontend to scrreen |
| 16:43.32 | kergoth | tmux is really nice though, I'm liking it |
| 16:43.54 | kergoth | no patches to get vertical splits, its all native and behaves well, has vim/emacs bindings, easier configuration |
| 16:43.57 | kergoth | should check it out |
| 16:44.24 | prpplague | will check that out |
| 16:44.38 | prpplague | kergoth: doing anything with your panda yet? |
| 16:45.00 | CosmicPenguin | I would be most interested in vim bindings |
| 16:45.08 | CosmicPenguin | but I do prefer vsplits |
| 16:46.13 | prpplague | is still a big fan of midnight commander, hehe |
| 16:46.19 | kergoth | i really like it, for me, its like using awesome or some other tiled WM, but within a terminal, with the ability to detach |
| 16:46.35 | kergoth | the other cool thing is, you can access multiple sessions from a single client, because it uses a single server process for all your sessions on that box |
| 16:46.47 | kergoth | so you don't have to detach, then list, then attach, just hit a key combo and pick frmo the list of sessions |
| 16:46.51 | kergoth | convenient |
| 16:47.33 | kergoth | can also link windows/sessions together, so i can pull my irc window into a different session where i'm working on something else, or whatever, and it'll be available in both |
| 16:47.41 | kergoth | but i've only been using it for a couple days |
| 16:47.42 | kergoth | so we'll see |
| 16:48.11 | CosmicPenguin | meh - I'll try it |
| 16:48.38 | alex4nder | yoh |
| 16:49.00 | kergoth | heheh |
| 16:49.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm planning to give away a little over 300 of these boards away at ELC-E http://www.elinux.org/BeaconBoard |
| 16:50.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: think they will get a good response? |
| 16:55.07 | CosmicPenguin | so basically an arduino bridge? |
| 16:57.02 | roxfan | includes level converter? |
| 16:57.32 | roxfan | ah yes, i see |
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| 17:09.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no, its just a pwm rgb led and a 7 segment display |
| 17:10.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: basically use it as a gee whiz item or for debugging |
| 17:10.21 | CosmicPenguin | I don't get the reference to Arduino on the wiki page then |
| 17:10.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the board can used with an arduino if you want to |
| 17:10.46 | CosmicPenguin | Right - so a bridge to an arduino |
| 17:10.48 | CosmicPenguin | Thats huge |
| 17:10.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no |
| 17:11.17 | prpplague | will remove that reference from the page as it seems confusing |
| 17:11.24 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, okay - so something that could be used with an arduino or with a panda board |
| 17:11.31 | CosmicPenguin | Just a fun gpio attached something |
| 17:12.19 | prpplague | yea |
| 17:12.20 | CosmicPenguin | brb |
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| 17:16.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: re |
| 17:16.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, just a fun gpio device |
| 17:16.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've been using it to display debug codes and such |
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| 17:20.12 | CosmicPenguin | Wow, tmux has a lot of complexity under the covers |
| 17:23.21 | kergoth | yeah, it's pretty powerful. you can ignore a lot of it though, especially after you get it configured. highly recommend changing its prefix key from C-b to C-a to be more like screen, apparently even its developers do that |
| 17:23.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:38.33 | CosmicPenguin | heh - yeah, first thing I did |
| 17:39.19 | CosmicPenguin | So now I have finch and irssi running in two different panes |
| 17:39.21 | CosmicPenguin | happy |
| 17:40.44 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:42.53 | kergoth | there's an option to let you switch focus between panes with the mouse, which is nice to have available, though i usually use my hjkl bindings instead |
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| 17:53.19 | CosmicPenguin | oh, neat - you can hack up the status bar to show stuff |
| 17:53.35 | CosmicPenguin | takes shell commands |
| 17:58.46 | calculus | I added a status bar to my screen, shows time, hostname, and window titles |
| 17:59.13 | calculus | although the syntax for the status bar is very confusing/verbose |
| 18:00.24 | calculus | hmm.. can tmux be used as serial communication tool (like minicom)? |
| 18:01.05 | calculus | I use screen for that, screen /dev/tty 9600 |
| 18:55.13 | CosmicPenguin | nice - mouse select pane |
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| 19:29.25 | CosmicPenguin | bleh, found an annoying bit |
| 19:31.06 | CosmicPenguin | I set the current buffer as the title in vim, but that doesn't make it through to tmux - it just uses whatever title was set initially |
| 19:32.37 | kergoth | hmm, interesting. my vim title bits change the title of my tmux window |
| 19:32.44 | CosmicPenguin | what do you use in vim? |
| 19:33.13 | kergoth | my current dillemma is that my shell automatic window title bits override the manually set window title, thinking about disabling it and trying the tmux built in automatic window title bits, unsure |
| 19:33.21 | kergoth | http://github.com/kergoth/vim-kergoth |
| 19:33.32 | kergoth | greps |
| 19:33.52 | kergoth | see plugin/display.vim in that repo |
| 19:34.00 | kergoth | line 21 |
| 19:34.26 | CosmicPenguin | a |
| 19:34.28 | CosmicPenguin | bleh |
| 19:34.29 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 19:40.02 | kergoth | hmm, would be nice if tmux let you select text within a single pane, the way you could if it was a separate terminal |
| 19:40.08 | kergoth | somehow |
| 19:40.12 | kergoth | wait, i can use the copy buffer |
| 19:40.21 | kergoth | tests |
| 19:41.55 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm - still no love on the tmux window title |
| 19:42.02 | kergoth | ah ha. okay, these lines in my tmux config that can use xclip to copy/paste between tmux's buffers and the X clipboard just came in handy |
| 19:42.16 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: did you change the format string for the window titles in the tmux config, or is it default? |
| 19:42.22 | CosmicPenguin | I changed it |
| 19:42.31 | CosmicPenguin | "tmux.#I.#T" |
| 19:42.45 | kergoth | try #W |
| 19:42.57 | kergoth | #T, iirc, is the fixed title, whereas #W is the one apps can/do set |
| 19:43.11 | kergoth | hmm, maybe i should try including both, to resolve my issue with the manual title being overridden |
| 19:43.58 | kergoth | one thing that really bugs me, no command input history with : |
| 19:44.23 | CosmicPenguin | so #W is 'vi' and #T is the title set by bash (hostname) |
| 19:45.09 | kergoth | hmm, no, i was remembering wrong, i think its the other way around |
| 19:45.09 | kergoth | weird |
| 19:45.25 | kergoth | #T is the title set by the program running in the window using hte oSC title setting sequence |
| 19:45.30 | kergoth | checks his format string |
| 19:45.46 | kergoth | okay, i am using #W |
| 19:46.05 | kergoth | window-status-format "#I:#W"; window-status-current-format "[#I:#W]" |
| 19:46.29 | kergoth | https://github.com/kergoth/homefiles/blob/master/.tmux.conf |
| 19:46.31 | kergoth | https://github.com/kergoth/homefiles/tree/master/.tmux |
| 19:46.45 | kergoth | (not yet convinced i'll stay with the broken up config, but its good enough for now) |
| 19:53.46 | kergoth | I also set up my .zshrc to automatically set up every shell with a tmux session. I open a new terminal, it creates a new session linked to my default session. any windows i create, etc will be in the main session, accessible by all the linked sessions, so in this way all my shells by default share the same session, just can have different windows within it -- and of course, can always create a new session to split somehting out from default i |
| 19:54.43 | CosmicPenguin | I'm too addicted to middle button cut and paste to use the mouse pane select |
| 19:55.30 | kergoth | yeah, I know what you mean. on the other hand, its not very useful when you're using more than one pane anyway, and you can always hold down shift/alt/whatever to do the selection with your terminal instead. *shrug* |
| 19:55.42 | kergoth | fights bitbake |
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| 19:59.32 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 20:04.20 | CosmicPenguin | I should also be doing something that isn't tmux related |
| 20:04.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:05.02 | kergoth | its rather tough to change a tool as integral to one's workflows as screen can be |
| 20:19.17 | CosmicPenguin | I wish I could crack this vim nut - its really hard to have as many vim sessions up as I do and not be able to figure out what they are |
| 20:21.24 | kergoth | I'd verify that the vim config has it right, and also verify that your $TERM is right. i recommend using screen-256color inside of tmux |
| 20:21.27 | kergoth | not sure what else it could be |
| 20:24.04 | CosmicPenguin | works outside of tmux |
| 20:25.42 | kergoth | does it work in screen? |
| 20:25.47 | kergoth | the screen bits should work for both |
| 20:26.50 | CosmicPenguin | it doesn't work in screen |
| 20:26.51 | CosmicPenguin | curious |
| 20:28.44 | kergoth | try the bits from the display.vim i pointed you to before, thats what I use |
| 20:28.47 | kergoth | shrugs |
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| 20:34.23 | CosmicPenguin | okay, I got it - PBCAK |
| 20:35.25 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:40.22 | kergoth | man i love ack |
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