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| 14:11.20 | prpplague | kergoth: greetings earthling |
| 14:11.29 | kergoth | hey |
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| 15:01.05 | kergoth | hahaha http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DilbertDailyStrip/~3/iWtmt3mFvfE/ |
| 15:01.48 | prpplague | kergoth: work save? |
| 15:01.49 | prpplague | safe? |
| 15:02.35 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe funny |
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| 15:14.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey bud |
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| 19:03.49 | landley | Git bisecting for sh4 breakage between 2.6.39 and 3.0 is a flaming pain. |
| 19:04.03 | landley | Three bugs deep looking for the original breakage. |
| 19:04.24 | prpplague | hands landley a tube of preparation-H |
| 19:04.27 | landley | I have a patch to fix breakage #2, but the end of bug #3 is a build break turning into a hang. |
| 19:04.41 | landley | Bisect in the face of multiple overlapping bugs. Wheee... |
| 19:05.21 | landley | And of course the fact that nobody tests platforms like sh4 in each new release (before I do anyway) because the maintainer uses his own forked tree that's for renesas customers only. |
| 19:05.32 | landley | And will explicitly tell you on the list that if you're not a customer of his company, you don't count. |
| 19:05.48 | landley | If you wonder why I sometimes drop sh4 support for a few releases: that's why. |
| 19:06.00 | landley | Yay dreamcast and all, but I actively do not care about the guy who works for renesas. |
| 19:07.12 | wmat | landley: you drop sh4 support for what? |
| 19:07.20 | landley | (Actually his "the patch I committed broke every version of binutils before 2.19, which has only been out for 3 months, but _my_ customers don't have a problem" posting was where I wrote him off as a waste of oxygen...) |
| 19:07.47 | landley | No, I'm still trying to fix it. It's not a high priority, but I've gotten all but 2 of the targets working with 3.0, so I might as well finish up. |
| 19:08.13 | landley | It worked with 2.6.39, it's a kernel regression that causes ifconfig to panic the kernel, I can find and revert/fix whatever it is... |
| 19:08.27 | wmat | what is it you support again? |
| 19:09.18 | landley | arm (oabi and eabi, v4 through v6, and I have a big endian v4 but no way to test it because qemu doesn't have a board for that). |
| 19:09.37 | landley | powerpc: 32 bit (um, 701 or something? Bog standard 32 bit ppc, whatever that is), and 440fp. |
| 19:09.53 | landley | sparc 32, some ancient variant. The 386 of sparc, essentially. |
| 19:10.05 | landley | i486, i586, i686, and x86-64 of course. |
| 19:10.17 | landley | mips and mips3l, I think it's r4k? It's been so long I'd have to look. |
| 19:10.33 | landley | mips64 (not the one one the old one, I need to add mips32 but I dunno if gcc 4.2.1 supports it). |
| 19:10.44 | landley | sh4 as I mentioned. |
| 19:10.49 | landley | I think there's a couple others somewhere. |
| 19:11.04 | wmat | but for what, do you maintain a distribution or something? |
| 19:11.07 | landley | I had m68k building but qemu didn't support it so it was only tested with aranym, which I don't have set up locally so can't regressiont est. |
| 19:11.10 | landley | Aboriginal Linux. |
| 19:11.13 | landley | http://landley.net/aboriginal |
| 19:11.21 | landley | "We cross compile so you don't have to." |
| 19:11.43 | landley | Basically it creates a cross compiler, uses it to build a native compiler, kernel, and busybox+uClibc root filesystem, then packages it up into a squashfs with scripts to boot qemu. |
| 19:12.09 | landley | Plus extra scripts that do things like hook up distcc to the cross compiler so natively building stuff under the emulator isn't quite so slow. |
| 19:12.39 | landley | And I've got automated build infrastructure that can attach another filesystem image containing source code and build scripts to drive automated native builds under the emulator. I've got one that builds the whole of LInux From Scratch, for example. |
| 19:12.46 | landley | shrugs. |
| 19:12.54 | landley | It's my hobby project. One of 'em, anyway... |
| 19:13.19 | landley | This time around I'm upgrading to linux-3.0 and uClibc 0.9.32 (still with pthreads instead of NPTL, but one step at a time). |
| 19:13.34 | landley | Both packages broke stuff on various targets. Fixing what I can... |
| 19:13.47 | landley | I had to patch uClibc to fix x86-64, sh4, and sparc. |
| 19:13.57 | landley | Yes, the uClibc guys shipped a release that DIDN'T WORK ON X86-64. |
| 19:14.15 | landley | (How? Maybe it simply didn't occur to them to test that.) |
| 19:15.01 | landley | wmat: if you want to play it's easiest to just download prebuilt binary system images and boot 'em under qemu. You get a shell prompt with gcc and make. Capable of rebuilding itself under itself, from source code. :) |
| 19:17.21 | wmat | nah, i was just curious what you were doing. The last thing I need is something to play with. |
| 19:25.08 | prpplague | wmat: hehe |
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| 20:51.26 | landley | Virtualbox does not like USB hotplug. |
| 20:52.36 | landley | (I'm aware this is not news, but employers keep giving me windows boxes to do Linux development on, and requiring doubtlook for corporate email and meeting stuff. It's either install Linux in a VM or bring in my own laptop...) |
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