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16:34.52wmatprpplague: did the TI person find you?
16:35.10prpplaguewmat: yep, got the package
16:35.18wmatprpplague: ok, great
16:35.23prpplaguewmat: thanks for the help
16:35.28wmatno problem
16:35.38prpplagueintends to complain about the lack of TI help at ELC-E
16:36.46jrawsonThis still looks like a work channel.
16:37.15prpplaguejrawson: ??
16:39.22jrawsonOut of band conversations spilling into the channel and back out again, IRL references to delivery dudes... I've been here a month or so now, and it mostly looks like a work channel.
16:45.54prpplaguejrawson: most of the people in this channel are professional developers which revolves around embedded linux development. natural that the channel is used for those conversations as well
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16:51.27jrawsonBut is it for a particular company or a larger community of developers?
16:51.59wmatdefinitely no particular company
16:52.11jrawsonOk then.
16:53.58prpplaguejrawson: we have folks for montavista, qualcomm, TI and dozen others
16:54.02CosmicPenguinFreel free to start some topics
16:54.18prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe, met Tia yesterday
16:54.28CosmicPenguinTia?
16:54.44prpplagueTia Cassett
16:54.52CosmicPenguinStill drawing blanks.  Context?
16:55.15prpplagueTia Cassett - Senior Director Business Development - Qualcomm
16:55.32jrawsonI have some general questions about embedded development, if folks have time.
16:55.34prpplagueCosmicPenguin: she was the person who your email ended up with
16:55.43CosmicPenguinYeah, the fact that that I don't know that person is probably part of the problem
16:55.50prpplaguehehe
16:55.53CosmicPenguinOh, okay
16:56.34prpplaguejrawson: ask away, if someone is available, and can help they will try to answer
16:58.42CosmicPenguinI hope she apologized profusely
17:02.48prpplagueCosmicPenguin: actually i think she was trying to get me drunk so i would spill TI secrets, hehe
17:07.31jrawsonUsually what microarchitectures are used for embedded development? I've been trying to get a decent toolchain for x86 development and failing.
17:08.12jrawson(executing x86 machine code, outside of an OS)
17:11.37wmatjrawson: most people develop on x86 machines for target systems of varying architectures, like ARM, Power, etc. etc.
17:12.44jrawsonRight, I have Atom based development boards I'm trying to use like ARM, Power, etc. etc.
17:16.10CosmicPenguinprpplague: like you know any TI secrets
17:16.23prpplagueCosmicPenguin: exactly
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19:30.03roxfanhttp://www.arm.com/files/downloads/ARMv8_Architecture.pdf  some more technical info on arm64
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21:17.54CosmicPenguinprpplague: back?
22:56.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: what up?
22:57.13CosmicPenguinDoes the pandaboard have the outputs to handle this right off, or would one need to get one of your other handy dandy boards?
22:57.18CosmicPenguinhttp://www.sparkfun.com/products/8482
22:59.37prpplaguelooks
23:00.31prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you'd need some level shifters for the i2c
23:00.45prpplagueCosmicPenguin: other than that it would be easy to implement on the pandaboard
23:02.46prpplagueCosmicPenguin: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8745
23:02.58prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you could use that for the i2c level shifting
23:03.22CosmicPenguinWe have one of those on the AVC car
23:03.49CosmicPenguinHmm - it sounds like I need to get my hands on a pandaboard then
23:04.52prpplagueCosmicPenguin: got a project in mind?
23:05.24CosmicPenguinhttp://www.sparkfun.com/products/9526
23:05.30roxfanheh getting pandaboard just for i2c is a bit of overkill imo
23:06.21CosmicPenguinWe're working up to a epic light show for Halloween next year, but we're going to start small with Christmas this year to try things out
23:06.59prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ahh cool
23:07.17CosmicPenguinBecause there is music involved, I didn't want to just go arduino, so I think I'll control it from a Linux box instead
23:07.20CosmicPenguinthus, the panda
23:08.00CosmicPenguin60 feet should be enough to tune in if you drive by in a car
23:08.05CosmicPenguin(the FM transmitter that is)
23:08.06prpplaguedandy, i think probably that is the kind of project that we could convince TI to spring for a board
23:08.39calculusand I think you need dual 1.5 GHz too
23:08.56prpplaguehehe
23:09.07SpeedEvil2mW is of course hightly non-compliant.
23:09.22prpplagueSpeedEvil: yea they have big FCC warning on the page
23:09.24SpeedEvilBy what - a factor of a hundred thousand or so
23:09.50CosmicPenguinbah - who listens to FM anymore anyway?
23:10.14prpplaguehehe
23:10.50prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i actually think i have a couple of these in my prototype box, i'll check when i get back
23:10.59prpplagueCosmicPenguin: if i do and wire it for testing
23:11.13CosmicPenguinhttp://www.km5z.us/FM-Stereo-Broadcaster.php
23:12.53prpplaguedandy
23:13.43prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i'll have a look when i get back
23:14.18CosmicPenguinSure.  It takes me about 15 minutes to get stuff from sparkfun, depending on how fast I walk
23:14.27prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i didn't get to do much at the conference this time, spent all my time doing TI stuff
23:14.34prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe
23:15.02CosmicPenguinIt would take me a minute, but there is a large canal between us and them
23:16.12prpplaguehehe
23:19.38CosmicPenguinMy tenative project plan is to have a working model going by Thanksgiving.  I have a lot to learn about how to deal with cues in an audio stream
23:19.58CosmicPenguinThe electronics themselves are pretty straight forward
23:21.02CosmicPenguinprpplague: did you at least get yourself some real Budweis in Prague?
23:21.37CosmicPenguinBudvar
23:22.18SpeedEvilCosmicPenguin: I note that http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20Kpps-HightSpeed-Galvo-System-laser-galvo-scanner-NEW-/220880557463?pt=UK_ConElec_LightingLEDsStrobes_RL&hash=item336d81d597 might be fun for a light show at small levels.
23:23.14CosmicPenguinwow
23:23.50prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe, no, haven't made it out of the hotel except for elce events
23:24.07CosmicPenguinrectify that immediately
23:24.17CosmicPenguinGo see the bridge or the castle or something
23:24.20SpeedEvilI've wondered about those for el-cheapo slow-scan 'FLIR'
23:24.43prpplagueconsiders going to get a beer before the bar closes
23:24.48SpeedEvilAnd laser rangers.
23:25.38CosmicPenguintime for me to go home
23:25.40CosmicPenguinweekend
23:26.50CosmicPenguinprpplague: if I don't see you safe travels

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