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| 00:21.53 | Mirell | Now to learn more about OpenStack |
| 00:25.01 | calculus | you push and pop but do not hop on top of pop |
| 00:25.40 | Mirell | Okay, I really like the Verizon MiFi now |
| 00:25.43 | Mirell | 16Mbps/4Mbps |
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| 00:34.37 | prpplague | GPSFan: hey bud |
| 00:34.52 | prpplague | sjhill: give me a ping when you have time |
| 00:43.38 | Mirell | prpplague: It's hiring season outside of Austin |
| 00:43.48 | Mirell | Got many calls for Portland and SF |
| 00:43.50 | prpplague | Mirell: indeed |
| 00:44.24 | Mirell | Two more calls tomorrow |
| 00:44.43 | prpplague | Mirell: no offers yet? |
| 00:56.00 | Mirell | prpplague: I'd have to be flown out |
| 00:56.22 | Mirell | I'd almost certain be brought in after the phone call this afternoon, if I was local |
| 00:56.51 | prpplague | Mirell: doh |
| 01:04.35 | Mirell | Not saying I won't be flown in |
| 01:04.42 | Mirell | But one of the last questions was where I was from |
| 01:05.18 | prpplague | Mirell: "well hell, i am from texas, where the heck you think you are calling?" |
| 01:06.35 | Mirell | Like that matters anymore with cell phones |
| 01:06.44 | Mirell | If I move to Portland, I'll still have an Austin area code |
| 01:07.04 | prpplague | Mirell: was joking |
| 01:07.18 | prpplague | Mirell: should have used the <redneck accent> tags |
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| 01:26.35 | Mirell | A backchannel via Twitter... |
| 01:26.45 | Mirell | I wonder if these people learned of IRC |
| 01:27.49 | GPSFan | prpplague, bbiab, just got back from beer... :>)) |
| 02:06.23 | GPSFan | prpplague, well, maybe not till tomorrow... cul |
| 02:12.42 | Mirell | OpenStack seems...abstracted to abstraction. |
| 02:13.32 | prpplague | GPSFan: later |
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| 14:54.33 | bgamari | What happens when you put a picosecond accurate timing pulse through a 0.1" header connector? |
| 14:54.54 | file | party? |
| 14:55.11 | bgamari | heh |
| 14:55.55 | bgamari | Will it be the bad sort of party where the signal comes through with a broken jaw, shards of glass in its face, and three missing teeth? |
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| 15:12.55 | kergoth` | a69 |
| 15:12.58 | kergoth` | blah |
| 15:13.10 | kergoth` | grumbles and gets caffeine |
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| 15:27.40 | g1powermac | morning prpplague |
| 15:27.49 | prpplague | greetings |
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| 16:03.20 | Mirell | Klout is bizarre |
| 16:04.15 | prpplague | Mirell: ? |
| 16:05.06 | CosmicPenguin | Dude if you don't know what it is, you don't have any |
| 16:05.37 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, and I believe i can tell the differences in coffess |
| 16:05.39 | CosmicPenguin | so there |
| 16:05.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i know what Klout is, just curious why Mirell thinks it is bizarre |
| 16:06.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ?? |
| 16:06.09 | CosmicPenguin | Your google + rant |
| 16:06.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 16:06.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm |
| 16:07.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: did i imply that you could not? |
| 16:07.23 | CosmicPenguin | I felt that you implied that it was a silly thing |
| 16:08.18 | CosmicPenguin | I think its an okay obsession |
| 16:08.49 | CosmicPenguin | People can get silly with the descriptions, but they do that with beer too |
| 16:09.03 | CosmicPenguin | And of course, wine is the unabashed winner in silly taste descriptions |
| 16:09.39 | CosmicPenguin | But yeah, I appreciate the variety in good coffee. Also, beer and scotch |
| 16:09.43 | CosmicPenguin | and whisky |
| 16:09.46 | CosmicPenguin | and bourbon |
| 16:09.55 | CosmicPenguin | really - the brown liquors |
| 16:12.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, that was not my intention |
| 16:13.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: my intention was to state "I respect that you have a interesting in these things, but i don't. so don't treat me like an idiot when just want a 'cup of coffee'" |
| 16:15.08 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, okay |
| 16:15.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, and no i have no Klout, hehe |
| 16:15.23 | CosmicPenguin | we'll just treat you like a idiot for other reasons then.. :) |
| 16:15.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: exactly |
| 16:18.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not that it matters now, but i've edited my comments |
| 16:19.38 | CosmicPenguin | In related news, that christmas blend is actually pretty good |
| 16:19.41 | CosmicPenguin | for starbucks |
| 16:20.12 | prpplague | they have it in the TI cafeteria this morning |
| 16:20.55 | CosmicPenguin | This is Boulder, where they take stuff like coffee very seriously |
| 16:21.23 | CosmicPenguin | so there are some local roasters in town that do the usual organic,free trade,etc thing |
| 16:21.44 | CosmicPenguin | they make some quality stuff - I have trouble drinking starbucks these days |
| 16:22.06 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:22.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
| 16:22.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea i probably pissed some people of with that post |
| 16:23.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i stopped doing all my regular posts, didn't really seem like it was inspiring any conversations |
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| 16:29.45 | CosmicPenguin | the thing is getting the info out there, not inspiring conversation |
| 16:29.50 | CosmicPenguin | I always find what you post interesting |
| 16:34.49 | sunrunner20 | what are you guys talking about? |
| 16:34.54 | sunrunner20 | oh |
| 16:34.55 | sunrunner20 | coffee |
| 16:36.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm most of my stuff would only get 2 or 3 +1's |
| 16:36.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so i figured no one was looking |
| 16:37.11 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 16:37.42 | CosmicPenguin | I read a lot of stuff, but comment rarely |
| 16:37.52 | Mirell | CosmicPenguin: My Klout is 42, and apparently I talk a lot about Latin... |
| 16:38.33 | CosmicPenguin | 45 - Beer, football and apparently... Chicago |
| 16:39.12 | CosmicPenguin | who knew? |
| 16:41.58 | prpplague | doesn't have twitter or facebook , only G+ |
| 16:42.34 | Mirell | And LinkedIn |
| 16:43.34 | sunrunner20 | I've only got facebook because it was half my grade in a college course |
| 16:43.37 | prpplague | Mirell: true |
| 16:43.54 | sunrunner20 | I haven't acctually loged in in at least a year |
| 16:43.58 | Mirell | Well, a tweet and a blog post is getting me an interview |
| 16:45.32 | sunrunner20 | speaking of jobs, anybody got an entry level or intern level IT or networking position? |
| 16:45.38 | sunrunner20 | (available) |
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| 17:01.40 | prpplague | GPSFan: hey bud |
| 17:04.27 | GPSFan | prpplague, g'day..;>) |
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| 17:15.42 | Mirell | Yesterday I learned how to make a simplistic MBR |
| 17:15.45 | Mirell | That was fascinating |
| 17:16.15 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:16.42 | prpplague | Mirell: CosmicPenguin is the king of that kind of stuff |
| 17:17.10 | Mirell | https://raw.github.com/mirell/stripe-application/master/MBR/print-character.asm was mine |
| 17:17.14 | Mirell | YAY I PRINTED A CHARACTER |
| 17:17.27 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:23.11 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 17:24.39 | sunrunner20 | wait, did you pour LN2 in a blender? |
| 17:24.46 | Mirell | Yes |
| 17:24.48 | sunrunner20 | ROTFL |
| 17:24.53 | Mirell | Why? |
| 17:25.08 | sunrunner20 | I like absurdly dangerious things |
| 17:27.21 | sunrunner20 | I want to make a study of sched 40 PVC overpressure failure but I can't get a highspeed camera + access to bombrange |
| 17:35.00 | Mirell | LN2 is not that dangerous |
| 17:40.04 | sunrunner20 | Neither is saltpeter, charcoal and sulfur. But put them together and you could lose a finger, or 5. |
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| 18:27.15 | landley | sunrunner20: liquid nitrogen is about as dangerous as boiling water. |
| 18:27.25 | landley | I'm pretty sure I could kill you with boiling water in at least three different ways. |
| 18:27.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: was the king |
| 18:27.50 | landley | But we don't flee in terror when somebody puts the kettle on. |
| 18:27.51 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:27.53 | CosmicPenguin | Was being the operative word |
| 18:28.09 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, how I miss hacking on coreboot |
| 18:34.24 | sunrunner20 | I know, I've just dealt with to many issues not to be extra careful around things such as blackpowder and LN2 |
| 18:37.51 | sunrunner20 | Also, LN2 will pull oxygen out of the atmosphere. So I'd say thats more dangerious than boiling water. |
| 18:38.35 | SpeedEvil | wants some LO2. |
| 18:39.03 | sunrunner20 | produceing small quantities with LN2 is pretty easy |
| 18:40.36 | sunrunner20 | another dangerious thing I want to do: LOX + propane slush... But, again, bombrange. |
| 18:44.09 | SpeedEvil | I want to do regenerativly cooled electroformed rocket engines. |
| 18:45.57 | sunrunner20 | not heard the term electroformed in that context |
| 18:47.00 | SpeedEvil | Electroforming is electroplating, but making milimeter or more thick objects. |
| 18:47.06 | sunrunner20 | ah |
| 18:47.16 | SpeedEvil | (well, that's one sort) |
| 18:47.21 | sunrunner20 | I was thinking EDM |
| 18:47.27 | SpeedEvil | That too |
| 18:50.08 | SpeedEvil | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_nozzle - look at the first graphic. Now, how do you make that with spiral passages wrapped round it for fuel that go from left-right, and then do a u-turn, and come back to the left, and feed into injectors. |
| 18:52.24 | sunrunner20 | might be able to do it with welding. I wasn't old enough to look for construction details when I went to the Houston Space Center |
| 18:53.02 | sunrunner20 | can also do it with multipul parts |
| 18:53.19 | SpeedEvil | Sure - now it's also got to be light, small, in good thermal contact with the nozzle. |
| 18:54.26 | SpeedEvil | It's a fun problem - I had some interesting results using electroforming onto spun pipe. |
| 18:54.34 | SpeedEvil | That seemed very promising. |
| 18:54.49 | sunrunner20 | It always seems like i'm the only one without proper access to equipment |
| 18:55.06 | SpeedEvil | I did the above in a bucket. |
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| 19:14.08 | sunrunner20 | are there two chemicals that need to be kept apart flowing through the channel? |
| 19:19.17 | SpeedEvil | No. |
| 19:19.53 | SpeedEvil | One goes directly to the injectors, the other fuel is used to cool the chamber and nozzle so they don't melt, and is then injected. |
| 19:28.28 | landley | sunrunner20: LN2 won't "pull oxygen out of the atmosphere", it displaces it. But the amount it does so is basically only dangerous if you're in an unventilated _closet_, because the stuff is already 78% of the atmosphere. I ran the numbers back in 2006 for an old Penguicon mailing list post, I could try to dig it up. |
| 19:28.52 | landley | Humans generally suffocate due to an inability to get rid of CO2, not due to a _lack_ of oxygen. |
| 19:29.03 | sunrunner20 | Not what i'm talking about landley |
| 19:30.15 | landley | 2% co2 in the atmosphere is fatal. It's 21% oxygen and the partial pressure of oxygen already halves when you climb to high altitudes, but people are fine without special equipment unless they're elderly or have lung damage. |
| 19:30.47 | sunrunner20 | Since LN2 is colder than oyxgens boiling point at standard pressure it can render atomosphereic oxygen into LOX |
| 19:32.01 | landley | sunrunner20: in _trivial_ amounts, which evaporate again almost immediately. |
| 19:32.28 | landley | But yes, we have fun with the LO2 dripping off metal containers sometimes. |
| 19:33.01 | landley | Somebody actually made a batch of LN2 ice cream with LO2 once, just to prove a point. Tasted fine, didn't explode. |
| 19:33.47 | landley | Personally, that's one I wouldn't have done, but I'm not experienced with LO2 so err on the side of caution. |
| 19:33.50 | sunrunner20 | Doesn't the LN2 boil off before serving? |
| 19:34.04 | landley | People who aren't experienced with LN2 are terrified of it. |
| 19:34.40 | landley | sununner20: yes, but the bubbles in the ice cream itself are from the liquified gas mixed in. |
| 19:34.48 | landley | Ice cream isn't ice because it's a foam. |
| 19:35.06 | landley | I was worried that the _food_ would oxidize and it would affect the taste, but it didn't. |
| 19:35.26 | landley | It's already 1/5 of the atmosphere, I guess if it was that easy... |
| 19:35.39 | sunrunner20 | heh, well canned whip cream is almost the same thing. Cream + Nitrous |
| 19:36.20 | landley | Apparently small amounts of LO2, when they turn to gas, dilute pretty quickly with the surrounding atmosphere. |
| 19:36.39 | sunrunner20 | High diffusion rate? |
| 19:36.56 | sunrunner20 | or just regular mixing |
| 19:37.13 | landley | Regular mixing. Huge temperature differential, no contianer... |
| 19:37.46 | landley | (And it _is_ already 20% of the atmosphere.) |
| 19:38.23 | sunrunner20 | I wonder if you could turn a caned of whip cream into a hybrid rocket |
| 19:38.28 | landley | If the partial pressure of oxygen gets up around 35% water won't necessarily put out fires, but it takes huge amounts to do that _and_ you've still got to start the fire and let it get established (which consumes oxygen). |
| 19:38.47 | landley | Again, a liter of the liquid is what, 20-25 liters of gas? (I have to look it up...) |
| 19:39.34 | sunrunner20 | dunno |
| 19:39.45 | landley | A liter's 1000 cubic centimeters. A cubic meter is 100x100x100 so 1,000,000 cc's... |
| 19:40.06 | landley | So a liter's 1/1000th of a cubic meter, and 22 liters would be about 2% of one. |
| 19:41.03 | landley | So if release your liter of LOX in a 1 cubic meter container at 1 ATM, you add an extra 2% gas to it, and it _started_ with 20% oxygen... |
| 19:41.08 | landley | Run for the hills time, obviously. |
| 19:41.56 | landley | LOX is dangerous when it comes in contact with something flammable because the flammable thing will burn, quite intensely, when immersed in LOX. |
| 19:42.26 | sunrunner20 | Depending on conditions it'll explode |
| 19:42.28 | landley | But it's not an enormous area of effect. Idiots _have_ smoked while on oxygen and survived. (It's a bad idea.) |
| 19:42.41 | landley | Boiling water explodes quite impressively if you seal the container it's boiling in. |
| 19:42.47 | landley | Don't do that. |
| 19:43.14 | sunrunner20 | I meant litteral explosion- shock wave > mach 1 |
| 19:43.24 | landley | One of the more dangerous things in the whole LN2 setup is that the TANK is pressurized to 3000 atmpospheres so they don't have to keep it cold to keep it liquid.. |
| 19:43.34 | landley | sunrunner20: mixed with what? |
| 19:43.40 | landley | Gasoline? |
| 19:43.51 | landley | LO2 isn't going to react with _itself_. |
| 19:44.01 | sunrunner20 | My understanding is just about any high density oxidazable substance |
| 19:44.10 | landley | Oxygen does not oxidize. (Ozone notwithstanding, that consumes energy to produce.) |
| 19:44.27 | landley | sunrunner20: get some powdered coffee creamer and set it on fire sometime. |
| 19:44.38 | landley | Then investigate surface area. |
| 19:44.46 | landley | Paper burns faster than wood due to exposed surface area. |
| 19:44.58 | sunrunner20 | I know, but i was talking about oxyliquit explosives |
| 19:45.04 | landley | Going from 1ATM to pure O2 gives you about a 5 times increase in surface area for oxidization. |
| 19:45.33 | landley | sunrunner20: I can make an explosive out of iron filings. |
| 19:45.40 | landley | Lock up your iron! |
| 19:46.04 | sunrunner20 | I've not heard of an iron based explosive |
| 19:46.06 | g1powermac | likes the explosion caused by powdered coffee creamer. . . |
| 19:46.13 | landley | I can actually make a pretty reasonable explosive out of vinegar and baking soda, if I have the right sort of container. |
| 19:46.37 | landley | (Don't do that in a glass jar and screw on a metal cap. Flying glass is a bad thing.) |
| 19:46.52 | landley | sunrunner20: Iron wouldn't be the _only_ ingredient there. |
| 19:47.06 | sunrunner20 | Hince my "based" |
| 19:47.40 | landley | (Although the easiest thing to do there is mix iron and aluminum filings and try to make thermite, although for best effect you need to rust the iron first, and not just _any_ rust... nevermind.) |
| 19:47.55 | sunrunner20 | and |
| 19:47.57 | landley | Technically, thermite doesn't explode, but it can be a fun energy source to boil water and give you a nice bang. |
| 19:48.09 | sunrunner20 | never use too much magnesium when lighting thermite |
| 19:48.13 | landley | Thermite and dry ice is _loud_. |
| 19:48.52 | landley | The point of all this is "how dangerous do I think this is" and "how familiar am I with it" are inversely correlated. |
| 19:50.33 | landley | I am familiar with LN2, and treat it about like boiling water. (The ledenfrost effect actually makes it less dangerous for small splashes, but Mirell has a picture of his finger from when the phase separator broke, and Reese had the "boy pouring looking at pretty girl not at what he's doing" problem and wound up with first degree frostbite down her whole leg.) |
| 19:50.53 | landley | (Yeah, _that's_ how you impress a girl, pour two liters of liquid nitrogen into her lap!) |
| 19:51.09 | sunrunner20 | lol |
| 19:51.55 | sunrunner20 | I can't be sure, but I think the problem with too much Mg and thermite is it boils the Mg which then combusts as a giant flash |
| 19:52.25 | landley | I've seen thermite set off with a match. |
| 19:52.48 | landley | (The match was on the end of a longish stick, but the point stands.) |
| 19:53.34 | sunrunner20 | was it straight iron oxide and Aluminum or was it mixed with something that would lower the ignition point |
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| 19:54.35 | landley | It was just powders. It was also around 1996 so the details are a bit fuzzy. |
| 19:55.27 | sunrunner20 | ah, becuase I've never managed to get my straight rust+Al mix to ignight with anything less than a torch. I even made it into a very thin line so the heat wouldn't disappate |
| 19:55.35 | landley | (Might have been some non-oxidized iron in there, which will burn just normally. You can light steel wool.) |
| 19:55.47 | sunrunner20 | With a 9volt battery |
| 19:56.09 | landley | Or a match. |
| 19:56.47 | landley | Which was totally mind-blowing in first grade, not so much now... |
| 19:57.13 | landley | sunrunner20: possibly you didn't have the _really_ powdered stuff. |
| 19:57.35 | landley | The "don't breathe around this or you'll wind up in the hospital like the first actor who played the tin man" kind. |
| 19:58.12 | landley | Although now that I think about it, the one I saw was just some aluminum cans and rusty nails run through some kind of grinder or file or something... |
| 19:58.30 | landley | Might have been a bundle of match heads that the first match lit. Dunno. |
| 19:58.33 | landley | Long, long time ago. |
| 19:59.19 | landley | (I do remember the story of the guy who tried to make a pipe bomb by clipping the heads off a dozen boxes of wooden matches and then hammering the metal pipe closed.) |
| 19:59.35 | sunrunner20 | I belive I read about that in the darwin awards |
| 19:59.36 | landley | (He survived.) |
| 19:59.55 | landley | Oh this was a relative telling me about dumb things their friends had done when they were kids back when I was like 5 years old. |
| 20:00.20 | landley | My grandfather used to wire up the metal benches at outdoor movie theatres to a car battery, and then wait for the big reveal of the monster... |
| 20:00.35 | sunrunner20 | Dumbest thing I ever did was stick a needle in a .22 blank and try to scrape out the powder |
| 20:00.48 | sunrunner20 | this was like 1st grade |
| 20:01.04 | landley | This is the same grandfather who used to make nitrogen triiodide and paint it on things. (Turns into a contact explosive when dry, a thin layer of which goes "bang" very loudly in a localized way.) |
| 20:01.15 | landley | still got all your fingers? |
| 20:01.45 | landley | (Apparently if you pour some IN3 in a keyhole, the keyhole will _spit_the_key_out_ repeatedly, until the explosive's used up.) |
| 20:01.47 | sunrunner20 | Yea, I'd gotten most the powder out so all it did was embed a few granuals in my face |
| 20:02.16 | g1powermac | ripped apart an old crt tv back when he was 5 years old, amazingly didn't kill myself on the capacitors. . . |
| 20:02.22 | landley | And then there's David's stories of "fun with detcord"... |
| 20:02.37 | landley | And m80's or m90's (whichever ones are the quarter stick of dynamite firecrackers)... |
| 20:02.56 | sunrunner20 | But that close call is probally my source for a healthy caution (some might call it overcaution) |
| 20:03.18 | landley | My grandfather had a half-dozen of the BIG capacitors from power transformers, which he got off ebay... |
| 20:03.36 | landley | But yeah, he'd melted a screwdriver or two poking around in the back of old TVs in junkyards. |
| 20:03.50 | g1powermac | wow |
| 20:03.52 | landley | (Just because it's been sitting in the rain for 6 months does not mean it's safe.) |
| 20:04.17 | g1powermac | the one I ripped apart was sitting for only a few hours. . . |
| 20:04.18 | landley | (This is the grandfather who spent 40 years trying to STOP working for the NSA.) |
| 20:04.23 | g1powermac | and was quite large too |
| 20:04.37 | sunrunner20 | Sounds like you'll love this guy's channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Photonicinduction |
| 20:04.40 | landley | he'd tell me stories about all the other crazy stuff he did because he still couldn't really tell me what he did for them, other than "cryptography". |
| 20:05.21 | landley | He's in his late 80's now. Deaf as a post. |
| 20:13.51 | Mirell | Woah, backscroll |
| 20:14.28 | Mirell | landley: Your old laptop, as a reminder |
| 20:27.10 | landley | Mirell: got it. |
| 20:41.03 | Mirell | Heh, going to get reblogged on Twilio's blog |
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| 22:23.31 | Mirell | prpplague: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/gold-rehypotecation-unwind-begins-hsbc-sues-mf-global-over-disputed-ownership-physical-gold |
| 23:08.34 | Mirell | http://www.twilio.com/blog/2011/12/doers-in-action-easy-voice-reminder-for-kitty-and-you-with-heroku-and-twilio-voice.html |
| 23:08.38 | Mirell | They mispelled my last name. |
| 23:12.10 | roxfan | wow that tyler guy really likes long-winded sentences |
| 23:17.51 | Mirell | Oh, it's updated now! |
| 23:27.17 | prpplague | looks |
| 23:28.27 | prpplague | Mirell: hehe |
| 23:28.41 | prpplague | Mirell: yea i don't ownany gold/silver shares |
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