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| 21:48.40 | landley | Wee fish, ewe, a mare, egrets, moose, hippo, gnu, deer. |
| 21:51.47 | landley | I'm tempted to put in a talk proposal for CELF about "replacing android toolbox and linux busybox with my toybox", and have a section of the talk "why not just stay with busybox" include a bit that plays the katamari damacy theme. |
| 21:51.55 | landley | While listing the number of commands added to each version... |
| 21:52.04 | landley | And the number of configuration options. |
| 21:52.11 | landley | And the number of #ifdefs in C code... |
| 21:54.35 | landley | Really I want to obsolete android toolbox, linux busybox, and gnu bloatware. |
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| 22:01.19 | mnemoc | landley: make android_external_toybox repo available :) |
| 22:01.41 | landley | hmmm? |
| 22:01.45 | landley | http://landley.net/hg/toybox |
| 22:01.52 | mnemoc | no android.mk there |
| 22:02.08 | landley | I'm not really an android developer. I do native code, not java. |
| 22:02.15 | landley | (Used to do java. Got it out of my system in the 90's.) |
| 22:02.32 | mnemoc | android.mk is for integrating toybox into the android build system |
| 22:02.39 | landley | I'll make this sucker build against bionic (once I've got stuff working), and supplement missing things like regex support. |
| 22:02.40 | mnemoc | for C code |
| 22:03.01 | landley | I've occasionally used various vendor forks of the android build system. |
| 22:03.06 | landley | But not the vanilla stuff. |
| 22:04.40 | mnemoc | http://android.git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=platform/external/busybox.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/linaro_android_4.0.3 <--- e.g. this is linaro's androidization branch of busybox |
| 22:05.20 | landley | I'll take a look, thanks. |
| 22:05.31 | mnemoc | to use toybox in an android image one would need the same |
| 22:06.07 | landley | Is there a wheel Google's "not invented here" syndrome _hasn't_ reinvented yet? |
| 22:06.24 | mnemoc | linux itslef :p |
| 22:08.12 | mnemoc | it's also weird that after reinventing mercurial and git for code.google.com they still use perforce for internal work :-/ |
| 22:25.32 | landley | drobbins: darn it, where was that roadmap page that talked about all the pending changes to profiles and such? I have my notes.txt file on it, but not the URL to the wiki page, and I'm not finding it... |
| 22:40.33 | landley | how do I turn manifests off again? |
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| 23:07.31 | g1powermac | hrmm, I wonder if I could easily teach myself statistics. . . |
| 23:07.42 | g1powermac | and possible linear algebra |
| 23:17.01 | mnemoc | g1powermac: head first books are quite nice for that |
| 23:17.48 | mnemoc | landley: what do you mean by turning manifests off? |
| 23:18.15 | landley | mnemoc: the question was posted to hte wrong channel, it shoulda been #funtoo |
| 23:18.26 | mnemoc | :) |
| 23:18.32 | landley | g1powermac: presumably khan academy has videos on this. |
| 23:18.49 | landley | Remember, it _started_ with math subjects and branched out from there... |
| 23:19.24 | g1powermac | landley, oh I forgot about them |
| 23:20.08 | SpeedEvil | Is it a them, or a him still? |
| 23:21.12 | g1powermac | kewl, there's both linear algebra and stats |
| 23:22.13 | g1powermac | though the stats one isn't finished yet |
| 23:24.30 | landley | SpeedEvil: it's a them now. Mostly him, but Bill Gates gave him a couple million dollars so he could retire and do it full time, and he's got some interns and the occasional person doing other topics... |
| 23:24.43 | landley | His ted talk covered some of this. |
| 23:25.01 | SpeedEvil | f |
| 23:25.03 | SpeedEvil | ah |
| 23:25.55 | landley | http://www.ted.com/speakers/salman_kahn.html |
| 23:26.08 | SpeedEvil | thanks |
| 23:26.19 | SpeedEvil | Watch tomorrow - nighT! |
| 23:26.30 | landley | Looks like http://www.ted.com/talks/salman_khan_let_s_use_video_to_reinvent_education.html is the only one he did for them. |
| 23:26.34 | landley | speedEvil: g'night. |
| 23:30.29 | g1powermac | landley, thanks for the tip :-) |
| 23:30.52 | landley | g1powermac: woot. |
| 23:37.14 | g1powermac | nice part is the linear algebra stuff covered is actually useable information and not the boatload of proofs I was bombarded with when I attempted to take it in college |
| 23:39.56 | g1powermac | heh, now if I could just find something like this specifically talking about recommendation algorithms and data mining, I'd be set |
| 23:52.58 | landley | Battery's dead, wandering off... |
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| 23:57.12 | landley | Outlets. Marvelous invention. |