| 00:14.38 | calculus | MonMotha: I know of salae (http://www.saleae.com/), and OLS (http://dangerousprototypes.com/open-logic-sniffer/) |
| 00:15.01 | calculus | prpplague who just joined might know of some others |
| 00:18.15 | MonMotha | prpplague: happen to know any decent PC hosted logic analyzers (GUI compatible with Linux a major plus, obviously)? |
| 00:19.28 | MonMotha | ideally full real time streaming at slower rates (e.g. via high speed USB) |
| 00:19.49 | MonMotha | I could always build one, but I prefer to not have to debug my debugging tools in the middle of a project :) |
| 00:26.15 | calculus | MonMotha: USBee (http://www.usbee.com/) was the other one I had in mind |
| 00:27.12 | MonMotha | calculus: yeesh, I can get a low end tek scope for the price of those things |
| 00:27.27 | MonMotha | though those aren't normally nearly as well featured |
| 00:28.37 | MonMotha | Windows only, too |
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| 01:05.45 | prpplague | MonMotha: indeed |
| 01:06.06 | prpplague | MonMotha: please have a look at the http://www.sigrok.org wiki pages, i actually have a couple of presentations on it |
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| 15:01.11 | sledges | hello |
| 15:02.13 | sledges | trying to make GPS USB (Prolific PL2320 /dev/ttyUSB0) to work on Android. Devnode gets created, but what is the next step? A gpsd of sorts? (#android-dev are silent) |
| 15:05.43 | SpeedEvil | plug it into your PC |
| 15:05.54 | SpeedEvil | Do, when reading the device you get NMEA sentances spat out? |
| 15:06.01 | sledges | SpeedEvil, yes |
| 15:06.04 | SpeedEvil | Something like $GPGGA,33..23..2,... |
| 15:06.07 | sledges | yes |
| 15:06.34 | sledges | then only a simple connector to Android loc_api provider would suffice(?) i hope you'll say that :) |
| 15:06.36 | SpeedEvil | Ok - then you 'simply' read from that device node, and either do whatever directly, or indeed have some sort of gpsd, and have other programs interact with it |
| 15:06.52 | sledges | i need other Android Apps to interact with it |
| 15:07.24 | SpeedEvil | Regrettably my knowledge of android internals extends only to how to get high scores on angry birds. |
| 15:07.35 | sledges | and I respect it |
| 15:07.36 | sledges | :D |
| 15:07.56 | sledges | i'll just look at how other do presumably |
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| 15:08.14 | sledges | in *working Android* devices .. |
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| 16:07.16 | landley | Morning. |
| 16:13.54 | g1powermac | hey landley |
| 16:19.28 | landley | g1powermac: hiya. What's up? |
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| 16:22.02 | g1powermac | not a whole lot, observing the sopa backlash atm |
| 16:22.09 | landley | How's it going? |
| 16:22.16 | landley | is at work. mostly working. |
| 16:22.30 | g1powermac | well, I'm surprised google decided to join in, at least partially with a blacked out logo |
| 16:23.01 | landley | is however far too amused that the lwn.net main page says "Addressing the failure of open source" was a bruce perens Q&A session. |
| 16:23.18 | landley | "So, mister failure..." |
| 16:23.32 | g1powermac | heh |
| 16:23.52 | landley | g1powermac: it's brilliant, google does a different logo just about every day now, so the blowback is likely to be minimal, but it'll get the word _out_ to more people than wikipedia will. |
| 16:24.10 | landley | They didn't interrupt service, just pointed the already-volatile bit of their site at something. |
| 16:24.45 | g1powermac | yea |
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| 16:24.52 | g1powermac | thats what came to mind the second I saw it |
| 16:25.04 | g1powermac | but, the black box definitely catches your eye |
| 16:25.53 | g1powermac | would have been interesting if they required a click through |
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| 16:27.32 | g1powermac | I am a bit curious what will happen |
| 16:27.59 | g1powermac | this sucker is definitely more known than I think anyone pushing it wants it to be |
| 16:28.29 | g1powermac | but will it be enough? if so, will they try to slip it in via a rider later on? |
| 16:29.08 | g1powermac | I find it kinda weird that the big tech companies that would be affected by this, especially google, don't go on the offensive |
| 16:30.50 | g1powermac | I ponder if the gov't is much less controlled by big cash than possibly through other means |
| 16:43.23 | landley | It's the Communications Decency Act III. |
| 16:43.37 | landley | Anybody remember CDA I and II back around 1996 or so? |
| 16:43.42 | landley | Went to the supreme court, twice? |
| 16:44.03 | landley | The previous "series of tubes" morons attempt to roll back to the clock to a point where they understood what was going on? |
| 16:44.13 | SpeedEvil | sighs. |
| 16:44.15 | landley | I'm still waiting for the baby boomers to just DIE OFF already. |
| 16:44.21 | landley | Stop trying to take the planet down with them. |
| 16:45.19 | landley | Yes you were great in your teens and 20's. Woodstock, the space program. In your 30's you made it to middle management, called yourselves, and did the greed is good thing. In your 40's you started saving for retirement and drove the 90's stockmarket boom. |
| 16:46.18 | landley | But when the baby boomers got into their 50's, they shut _down_ nasa, quadrupled college tuition (since _they_ didn't need it anymore), started yelling at other countries to get off their lawn... |
| 16:46.51 | landley | Now they're in their 60's and still having the same disrpoprtionate demographic impact they always did, and it's _annoying_. |
| 16:47.20 | landley | Sigh. |
| 16:48.45 | g1powermac | still doesn't quite understand where the control is coming from |
| 16:49.17 | g1powermac | to put the dollar amounts in perspective, the entire broadcasting and telecommunications industry is about three times the size of at&t |
| 16:49.35 | g1powermac | according to that nice xkcd comic |
| 16:49.40 | g1powermac | http://xkcd.com/980/huge/#x=-8642&y=-4448&z=5 |
| 16:50.16 | g1powermac | about about 25% smaller than walmart |
| 16:55.05 | landley | One industry lobbies, the other does nothing but. |
| 16:55.32 | landley | AT&T sucks at marketing, and considers it a distraction. Marketing is what hollywood breathes, and considers it their lifeblood. |
| 16:55.39 | landley | Therefore, when it comes to lobbying, which is a form of marketing... |
| 16:55.46 | landley | (Well, sales too...) |
| 16:57.44 | g1powermac | this is true, but it surprises me that we don't see even bigger blatant support of other very large companies |
| 16:58.00 | g1powermac | (except for the financial district, of course) |
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| 17:18.46 | landley | g1powermac: lobbying encourages your competitors to lobby, and then there's an arms race. |
| 17:19.26 | landley | It also draws the government's attention to whatever the area in question is. If you _want_ more regulation that's great, if you want them to stay away then you generally try not to attract their attention. |
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| 17:19.58 | landley | That's my understanding, anyway. There's a certain amount of "opening a can of worms". |
| 17:20.18 | landley | As when you get a legal department: it's generally because you got sued and have to defend yourself, not something you do proactively. |
| 17:21.10 | landley | Keep in mind Google's only about 15 years old, and even the Law Offices of Small and Limp Esquire only go back to 1976. |
| 17:21.32 | landley | The RIAA started out standardizing phonograph needles for victrollas. |
| 17:21.46 | landley | It took them a while to harden into the pure concentrated evil we see today. |
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| 17:37.33 | Mirell | http://stopsoap.com/ |
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| 18:09.19 | landley | Mirell: I have a bag of hotel soaps from Russia, if you'd like any. |
| 18:13.57 | prpplague | landley: lightly used? |
| 18:14.15 | landley | Still in their little wrappers, actually. |
| 18:14.29 | landley | Parallels put me up in a _very_ nice hotel in Moscow both times I was there. |
| 18:14.39 | prpplague | ebay? |
| 18:14.53 | Mirell | landley: Different soap. |
| 18:17.35 | landley | I saw the page. :) |
| 18:17.41 | landley | is sad about musl. |
| 18:17.52 | landley | For reasons that Mirell is now sick of, so I won't go into them. :) |
| 18:20.35 | Mirell | Heh |
| 18:23.57 | Mirell | It's just I've already heard it. |
| 18:27.30 | landley | You've already heard all my rants. The downside of proximity. |
| 18:27.55 | landley | I wrote up 2/3 of a blog about it over lunch, post when I get home. |
| 18:29.54 | Mirell | I actually do read your blog. |
| 18:46.33 | g1powermac | hmm, finally /. decided to join in the sopa protest. . . |
| 19:31.43 | landley | g1powermac: Actually, I think /. decided to _cover_ the sopa protest. |
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| 19:40.07 | g1powermac | landley, yea |
| 19:40.24 | g1powermac | landley, though it took them awhile to make that point |
| 19:47.28 | g1powermac | flickr has made an interesting protest: http://blog.flickr.net/en/2012/01/18/pipa-sopa/ |
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| 19:59.28 | landley | Sigh. I don't suppose anybody knows how to access the data segment before relocation in u-boot? |
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| 20:14.22 | Mirell | Not something I've encountered. |
| 20:20.23 | Mirell | Heh. http://gawker.com/5877192/ |
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| 21:24.34 | Posterdati | hi |
| 21:25.04 | Posterdati | please I've got problem with msp430-fet430uif + linux + probe firmware, could not find a firmware file for it :( |
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| 22:18.23 | landley | Mirell: have you seen @hurpdurpedia yet? |
| 22:24.23 | Mirell | I have not. |
| 22:30.35 | Mirell | landley: That results in nothing. Did you typo it? |
| 22:30.58 | roxfan | it's twitter |
| 22:31.14 | roxfan | and i think it's herpderp |
| 22:31.24 | Mirell | Ah, that was it. |
| 22:33.49 | landley | Mirell: I did indeed misspell it. |
| 22:34.09 | landley | But yes, there's a twitter feed devoted to retweeting The Stupid you get by searching for "sopa wikipedia". |
| 22:34.55 | landley | Although honestly, Clay Shirky's ted talk on SOPA is far and away the best overview of the whole situation (including history) that I've seen. Hands down. http://blog.ted.com/2012/01/18/defend-our-freedom-to-share-or-why-sopa-is-a-bad-idea-clay-shirky-on-ted-com/ |
| 23:02.09 | Mirell | Ah. |
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| 23:57.45 | Mirell | Hah. The company I interviewed with and got turned down last week, has apparently now been bought out by its rival. |