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| 16:03.00 | *** topic/#edev is Discussion of embedded systems (Hardware/Software/Linux/Commercial Device Repurposing) : Busybox and Buildroot : http://www.elinux.org |
| 16:03.58 | landley | Ooh, I might be able to take next week off. That would be nice... |
| 16:05.57 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:06.00 | av500 | landley: btw, I do read you blog :) |
| 16:06.03 | av500 | your |
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| 16:09.06 | prpplague | uses landley 's block for random number generator seeding |
| 16:09.12 | prpplague | s/block/blog |
| 16:16.18 | landley | yay, my blog is useful! |
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| 17:06.03 | landley | recruiter du jour. |
| 17:23.52 | Mirell | Mmm? |
| 17:39.05 | landley | Mirell: it was just a recruiter phone call. |
| 17:39.18 | landley | I put "not currently looking" at the top of my resume, but they still call. |
| 17:39.38 | landley | I think they copy stale versions into their in-house databases and then just cold call the lot. |
| 17:41.51 | SpeedEvil | DCMA takedown of stale copies! |
| 17:59.59 | alex4nder | landley: when they call, do the calls turn into 15 minute disserations on the history of employment, dating to pre-colonial times? |
| 18:28.58 | landley | alex4nder: not generally, no. |
| 18:29.18 | landley | I'll stop doing that here, since it apparently bothers you. |
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| 18:45.15 | landley | Apparently I need a full month's warning to use vacation time. |
| 18:45.36 | landley | Doing all these consulting gigs, you just wait for the gaps between contracts. Having actual vacation time is new to me. |
| 18:46.07 | landley | (As is burning out because what I'm doing is so insanely boring, yet staying to do more of it. Hence the need for vacation...) |
| 18:48.59 | keesj | Things are so much beter over in the EU! |
| 18:49.46 | keesj | landley: or are you not in the US? |
| 18:49.57 | landley | Oh the money's fine. |
| 18:49.58 | landley | Austin TX. |
| 18:50.14 | landley | It's just technology-wise: we're making an upscale webcame and an upscale skype-in-a-box. |
| 18:50.28 | landley | cu-seeme was 1992. |
| 18:53.25 | keesj | NAT was not present at that time :P |
| 18:53.51 | keesj | it's probably harder now :p |
| 19:06.33 | landley | keesj: Not really, no. |
| 19:06.53 | landley | The resolution's a lot higher, but 20 years of moore's law advances will do that. |
| 19:07.29 | SpeedEvil | 3d? |
| 19:07.55 | landley | No, the really discouraging part is they unveiled an iphone app that does more or less what the hardware we're making does. |
| 19:07.56 | landley | http://www.polycom.com/company/news_room/press_releases/2012/20120227.html |
| 19:08.02 | landley | "There's an app for that." |
| 19:09.01 | landley | But that's not really it either. Figuring out what sells and what doesn't is somebody else's job. |
| 19:09.33 | landley | It's when I'm told to make a fork and not worry about integrating it, argue against it as a bad idea and get overruled, and then get tasked with integrating it with what it forked from. |
| 19:09.51 | landley | I'm cleaning our our source control representation. Most of the company uses accurev for source control. |
| 19:10.00 | landley | It's really hard to see that as a valuable contribution, somehow... |
| 19:10.20 | landley | Meh, I'm just tired. |
| 19:10.39 | landley | Working on toybox gets me out of bed at 5am. Working on aboriginal gives me a feeling of accomplishment and a sense of pride. |
| 19:10.54 | SpeedEvil | Indeed. The choice being able to pick what you do, or get paid for it :) |
| 19:11.16 | landley | Well, paid well for it anyway. |
| 19:11.36 | landley | Fade likes stability, health insurance, and getting a much bigger house that costs 3x per month what the current place does. |
| 19:12.14 | SpeedEvil | It gets harder to live cheaply as commitments mount. |
| 19:14.12 | landley | I've noticed this thing. |
| 19:14.23 | landley | Avoided it for many years... |
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| 19:46.06 | keesj | it occurs to me that the human race is not the most advanced beings in this world. Birds can fly and don't need to work at all |
| 19:46.38 | sjhill | keesj: ah, but we are sentient, animals are not...i like being sentient thank you very much |
| 19:46.41 | ohsix | birds need to forage for a significant proportion of their body weight every day |
| 19:48.35 | alex4nder | sjhill: you assume they're not sentient.. maybe we just don't understand their frame of reference. |
| 19:49.21 | sjhill | alex4nder: they have no soul, whereas we do |
| 19:49.26 | alex4nder | haha |
| 19:49.31 | alex4nder | you trolling? |
| 19:49.47 | sjhill | anyone who knows me that i believe in God, that's no secret |
| 19:49.55 | ohsix | that is pretty funny, but the only response is to have him prove it |
| 19:50.12 | sjhill | ohsix: and you can't prove the converse either |
| 19:50.20 | ohsix | any animal is a product of it's experience to a certain degree |
| 19:50.28 | sjhill | ohsix: that is true |
| 19:50.32 | ohsix | sjhill: you can't prove something doesn't exist period |
| 19:50.42 | ohsix | reality is vast |
| 19:50.56 | alex4nder | timmy: sjhill oh, I don't pay enough attention to you to know that you believe in god. |
| 19:51.01 | alex4nder | s/timmy:/ |
| 19:51.36 | alex4nder | I'm a solipsist, I don't even believe in you. |
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| 19:51.53 | sjhill | huh, never heard of that before...fascinating |
| 19:52.06 | keesj | I did not know the Sentinnt word. it is about being able to feel and perceive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience |
| 19:52.24 | alex4nder | sjhill: it's a prechristian philosophy |
| 19:52.32 | ohsix | yea, that we're talking to you isn't really proof i'm not talking to myself :D |
| 19:53.07 | sjhill | i have a meeting, but i'll read the channel when i return |
| 19:53.08 | ohsix | you can't even really trust your brain for a whole lot, it's faillable |
| 19:54.28 | ohsix | luckily you don't have to convince your autonomic system to keep going and stuff, the important bases are covered |
| 19:54.34 | alex4nder | yah |
| 20:01.33 | SpeedEvil | I have problems believing in me at times. |
| 20:02.10 | ohsix | the matrix movie was philosophically interesting for all these reasons :] |
| 20:02.27 | alex4nder | I feel the same way about virtual machine security analysis. ;) |
| 20:07.06 | ohsix | i just try not to put to much thought into things i couldn't prove without any amount of effort (and then maybe if it takes too much :) |
| 20:14.04 | keesj | We deal with inverniti all day and to quote Knuth proof is not always the issue ...I've only proven that it works, I haven't tested it. |
| 20:14.33 | keesj | I am usually already happy when it appears to work |
| 20:16.02 | keesj | and why doesn't IRC have a +1 or like button :P |
| 20:16.29 | ohsix | some channels have bots that' do it :] |
| 20:17.19 | ohsix | for tracking karma, but <nick>++/-- is common vernacular for karma even if it isn't tracked |
| 20:17.20 | keesj | also on dev channels/mailing lisst . or course !that's where the +1 probably comes from |
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