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| 14:47.46 | landley | Found a bug in xchat. Gee, that didn't take long... |
| 14:47.50 | landley | breaks everything. |
| 14:48.30 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:48.39 | prpplague | landley: we say that about you allllll the time, hehe |
| 14:51.03 | landley | Alas, my upstairs gentoo server has become sufficiently swiss cheese it no longer allows itself to upgrade. |
| 14:51.20 | landley | It says the set of packages needed to upgrade is a conflict. Those packages are currently installed, so that' |
| 14:51.21 | prpplague | yea, same with my ubuntu stuff |
| 14:51.26 | landley | 's obvious nonsense. |
| 14:51.39 | prpplague | but i don't want to do a new install with unity |
| 14:51.40 | landley | Gentoo was always flaky for me, but now it's just crazy. |
| 14:51.42 | prpplague | i just hate unity |
| 14:51.49 | landley | xubuntu. |
| 14:51.50 | landley | xfce. |
| 14:51.58 | landley | The xfce version of _Fedora_ is almost tolerable, it turns out. |
| 14:51.59 | slashbeast | landley: I tried to use aboriginal builder but... it unset PATH as part of sanitize_enviroment |
| 14:52.02 | slashbeast | landley: why? |
| 14:52.11 | landley | slashbeast: it shouldn't have. |
| 14:52.18 | landley | It unsets $PATH as part of host-tools.sh. |
| 14:52.31 | prpplague | landley: ubuntu 11 was _almost_ perfect for my needs, but 12 is a disaster |
| 14:52.38 | slashbeast | well it does in download.sh |
| 14:53.00 | slashbeast | ++ '[' PATH == CCACHE_ ']' |
| 14:53.00 | slashbeast | ++ unset PATH |
| 14:53.05 | slashbeast | from bash -x download.sh |
| 14:53.07 | landley | slashbeast: PATH is one of the sanitize_environment passthroughs, line 18 of utility_functions.sh: http://landley.net/hg/aboriginal/file/ade54c27b90d/sources/utility_functions.sh#l18 |
| 14:53.20 | prpplague | landley: i just can't understand why linux desktop distros don't try to continue perfecting the reliability of the desktop rather than keep re-inventing the wheel every 2 or 3 releases |
| 14:53.44 | slashbeast | landley: then it does not work. |
| 14:54.46 | slashbeast | both 1.1.1 and latest hg code |
| 14:54.59 | landley | slashbeast: download.sh only fiddles with $PATH to create the manifest, because _if_ you run it after host-tools.sh then "git" and "hg" won't be in the $PATH for version querying of alt- packages. |
| 14:55.02 | landley | http://landley.net/hg/aboriginal/file/ade54c27b90d/download.sh |
| 14:55.13 | landley | PATH only occurs as a word once in that file. |
| 14:55.25 | landley | (Not counting "path" as a comment, and $OLDPATH which is a separate variable.) |
| 14:55.59 | landley | slashbeast: are you talking about the sources/include.sh at the top of download.sh doing this, maybe? |
| 14:56.27 | slashbeast | ++ is_in_list PATH '' |
| 14:56.28 | slashbeast | ++ '[' '' == all ']' |
| 14:56.33 | slashbeast | landley: maybe I will send you the log? |
| 14:56.36 | landley | prpplague: I ranted about that in The Blog Nobody Reads. |
| 14:56.50 | landley | slashbeast: download.sh does not contain is_in_list. |
| 14:56.55 | landley | All instances of that are in sources/*.sh |
| 14:57.03 | slashbeast | it does source it |
| 14:57.11 | slashbeast | ./download.sh fail because of unset PATH |
| 14:57.30 | prpplague | landley: hehe i read it |
| 14:57.40 | prpplague | landley: av500 even posted it to G+ the other day |
| 14:57.49 | landley | slashbeast: you're quoting lines of code at me, and then specifying files those lines of code are not in. |
| 14:58.07 | landley | Which file contains the lines of code you are quoting? |
| 14:58.16 | landley | Presumably you had to open this file in order to see the line of code. |
| 14:58.21 | landley | Which file was it? |
| 14:58.23 | slashbeast | thats the output of the bash -x |
| 14:58.28 | slashbeast | which print everything it execute first. |
| 14:59.02 | landley | slashbeast: try this. |
| 14:59.05 | landley | "rm -rf build" |
| 14:59.07 | landley | ./download.sh |
| 14:59.21 | slashbeast | there is no build file nor dir. |
| 14:59.34 | landley | Then include.sh shouldn't modify the $PATH. |
| 14:59.38 | landley | If it's doing so, yes that's a bug. |
| 14:59.51 | landley | But it's not doing it for me, therefore I need a little more information. |
| 15:00.41 | landley | sanitize_environment is where I linked to earlier: http://landley.net/hg/aboriginal/file/ade54c27b90d/sources/utility_functions.sh |
| 15:01.27 | landley | Ok, looking at what you're saying: what shell are you running? |
| 15:01.38 | slashbeast | bash, the code run /bin/bash. |
| 15:01.38 | landley | Because TEMP="$TEMP,lotsmorestuff" |
| 15:01.57 | landley | And then is_in_list PATH "$TEMP" |
| 15:02.12 | landley | You're saying TEMP is resolving to an empty string right after it's set. |
| 15:02.14 | landley | That's weird. |
| 15:02.18 | slashbeast | indeed. |
| 15:02.39 | landley | Try adding "unset temp" to the start of sanitize_environment in sources/utility_functions.sh. |
| 15:02.44 | landley | slashbeast: what host distro are you building on? |
| 15:02.58 | slashbeast | gentoo |
| 15:03.28 | landley | Well, that explains why it's not working, but not _how_ they broke it this week... |
| 15:03.36 | landley | Try adding the unset TEMP |
| 15:04.11 | landley | slashbeast: you see what the function's trying to do, right? |
| 15:04.23 | landley | In theory it's fairly straightforward. |
| 15:04.40 | landley | Any variable set in "config" (even if it's commented out) is allowed. |
| 15:04.50 | slashbeast | landley: yes I am and it looks like it work until it stops, hmm. |
| 15:05.00 | landley | Plus a big long extra list of variables that are whitelisted. |
| 15:05.15 | landley | Two of which are magical prefixes (DISTCC_ and CCACHE_). |
| 15:05.23 | landley | Anything else it doesn't recognize: unset it. |
| 15:05.40 | slashbeast | if [ $i = PATH ]; then echo "$TEMP"; fi and I am getting empty string |
| 15:05.42 | slashbeast | thats odd |
| 15:05.47 | landley | I added this because Wolfgang Denk's build environment was _insane_. |
| 15:06.08 | landley | Gentoo is setting "TEMP" in some kind of special mode. Does unset deactivate the special mode? |
| 15:06.28 | landley | Or did they upgrade to bash 5.x where they grabbed more of the environment variable space for magical purposes without caring about existing scripts? |
| 15:06.30 | slashbeast | landley: fixed. |
| 15:06.37 | slashbeast | landley: your script was unseting TEMP variable |
| 15:06.42 | landley | slashbeast: was it unset that fixed it? |
| 15:06.44 | slashbeast | adding TEMP to $TEMP fixes it |
| 15:06.53 | landley | Bwah. |
| 15:06.56 | landley | Yes, that's my bug. :) |
| 15:06.59 | slashbeast | ;-) |
| 15:07.10 | landley | Wow, how did I never hit that before... |
| 15:07.45 | slashbeast | I have no idea. ;-) |
| 15:07.47 | landley | Ok, brown-paper-bag bug acknowledged, will fix in source control when I can. (At work right now.) |
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| 16:16.15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: enjoying your new housemate? |
| 16:16.27 | av500 | new mistress? |
| 16:16.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
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| 17:25.46 | landley | prpplague: you got a cat? |
| 17:45.33 | prpplague | landley: yea |
| 17:45.41 | prpplague | landley: small kitten from the animal shelter |
| 17:54.51 | sjhill | prpplague: hope you have better luck |
| 17:55.07 | prpplague | sjhill: ?? |
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| 17:55.11 | sjhill | i got a beautiful calico from the shelter last year |
| 17:55.15 | sjhill | she's a royal bitch |
| 17:55.38 | sjhill | she only lets me pet her after all my boys go to bed, otherwise she runs from me |
| 17:55.40 | sjhill | wth |
| 17:55.52 | prpplague | sjhill: ahh |
| 17:56.07 | prpplague | sjhill: this one is a small kitten, he's pretty good so far |
| 17:56.20 | prpplague | sjhill: even has been using the litter box with no prompting |
| 17:56.43 | prpplague | although my wife is a little upset that he's been messing with her plants |
| 17:57.10 | alex4nder | what color? |
| 17:57.49 | sjhill | trivia: did you know that calico's are almost always female? 99.97% to be exact |
| 17:58.00 | prpplague | alex4nder: grey |
| 17:58.09 | sjhill | prpplague: ah the plants, yes, kiss them goodbye |
| 17:58.32 | prpplague | alex4nder: https://plus.google.com/101339419642360856354/posts/TP2DaudEFxZ |
| 17:59.14 | sjhill | prpplague: i'm sure he'll be a great cat |
| 17:59.31 | prpplague | sjhill: we can always bar-b-q him, so no loss |
| 17:59.45 | alex4nder | he's a keeper |
| 18:00.28 | sjhill | http://www.nateklein.net/thefarside.php#images/thefarside/resized/tethercat-700x450.jpg |
| 18:00.33 | sjhill | still one of my favorites |
| 18:01.30 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:02.03 | prpplague | sjhill: someone had a video up on youtube for skinning and bar-b-q'n a cat, but they got a bunch of complaints and it was removed |
| 18:02.25 | sjhill | oh commone |
| 18:02.59 | sjhill | people are stupid, like it or not that happens on a daily basis in Asian countries, go to hell PETA |
| 18:03.13 | alex4nder | I can't imagine cat tastes any good. |
| 18:03.34 | sjhill | you know, i'm just going to leave that right there.... |
| 18:04.06 | calculus | People for the Eating of Tasty Animals |
| 18:04.17 | sjhill | high fives calculus |
| 18:05.19 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 18:07.17 | prpplague | grumbles |
| 18:07.48 | prpplague | i think i got some water stuck in my ear after i showered this morning..... |
| 18:14.46 | dfarnsworth | found tethercat hilarious, and now is trapped looking at far side cartoons |
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| 19:14.00 | sjhill | prpplague: ping |
| 19:14.36 | prpplague | pong |
| 19:15.14 | sjhill | prpplague: pm |
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| 21:52.13 | sjhill | prpplague: back over here |
| 21:52.24 | sjhill | i'm confused on these adapter boards |
| 21:52.26 | sjhill | help? |
| 21:52.33 | sjhill | on the nail board i have |
| 21:52.54 | sjhill | the hammer board is plugged into the 14-pin header and then there is a 20-pin header on the nail board itself |
| 21:52.54 | prpplague | sjhill: hehe, i'll get you a flyswatter and a set of adapters |
| 21:52.59 | sjhill | no no |
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| 21:53.05 | sjhill | that's okay, i'll buy them |
| 21:53.06 | prpplague | sjhill: easier that way |
| 21:53.22 | sjhill | i'm trying to understand the hardware |
| 21:53.26 | prpplague | sjhill: problem is that the nail wasn't really designed to use the adapters |
| 21:53.33 | sjhill | so you can do jtag debugging using the 14 or 20 pin interface? |
| 21:53.38 | sjhill | ah |
| 21:54.04 | prpplague | i have a spare flyswatter at the office with adapters, i'll give it to jay to ship on monday |
| 21:54.50 | sjhill | prpplague: can you clear things up with the 14 and 20 pin interfaces on nail? |
| 21:56.06 | sjhill | i want to try this thing out with a couple of my MIPS boards |
| 21:56.20 | prpplague | sjhill: basically 14 and 20 pin jtag interfaces are the same, just that the 20 pin has more grounding to help with higher speed debugging |
| 21:56.36 | sjhill | okay |
| 21:56.43 | sjhill | so if i took the case off.... |
| 21:57.09 | sjhill | could i leave the hammer plugged in and do jtag debugging off the 20-pin? or does the hammer need to be off all together? |
| 21:59.00 | prpplague | yea you could do that |
| 21:59.08 | sjhill | cool |
| 21:59.09 | prpplague | no it doesn't need to be plugged , iirc |
| 21:59.41 | sunrunner20 | CRAP. old server keeps spitting out different hashes for files |
| 22:00.32 | sjhill | it looks like i could plug the ARM20MIPS14 adapter board onto the nail board just fine |
| 22:00.51 | sjhill | looks like there is plenty of clearance |
| 22:01.43 | sjhill | sound ok? |
| 22:01.49 | sjhill | because i'm getting ready to buy |
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| 22:07.13 | sjhill | prpplague: thoughts? |
| 22:08.13 | prpplague | sjhill: yea if you have room it will work |
| 22:09.51 | sjhill | okay, placed my order |
| 22:10.00 | sjhill | just the MIPS adapters |
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| 22:10.41 | sjhill | prpplague: still would like you to have Jay send me the flyswatter though |
| 22:10.50 | sjhill | prpplague: i'm out, thx and have a great weekend |
| 22:11.37 | prpplague | sjhill: yep |
| 22:11.40 | prpplague | sjhill: later! |
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