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| 14:29.21 | keesj | bugger http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17599701 TomTom sat-nav devices hit by GPS 'leap year bug' |
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| 14:33.55 | av500 | leap years come so unexpected these days |
| 14:35.42 | keesj | and everybody it hitting the problem at the same time. it's really awful. |
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| 19:01.46 | alex4nder | prpplague: ping |
| 19:04.04 | prpplague | sorry busy |
| 19:04.06 | prpplague | bad storm |
| 19:08.08 | sunrunner20 | yea |
| 19:08.14 | sunrunner20 | I was about to ask |
| 19:08.29 | sunrunner20 | Tornado siren jsut went off here |
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| 19:20.59 | prpplague | alex4nder: what up? |
| 19:25.08 | alex4nder | prpplague: you know if the imx6 or any of those ARM chips have hardware-encrypted RAM? |
| 19:25.25 | alex4nder | (not flash, but DDR) |
| 19:27.35 | prpplague | alex4nder: i don't know any with hardwarencrypted ram |
| 19:27.41 | roxfan | "those"? |
| 19:27.54 | prpplague | alex4nder: most include a encryption is done internally to SoC |
| 19:28.03 | prpplague | alex4nder: such as the omap443x series |
| 19:28.04 | alex4nder | prpplague: yah, that's what I've seen |
| 19:28.20 | alex4nder | I jut got a proposal that a client is developing internally, and they have all this crazy security overhead |
| 19:28.27 | alex4nder | but they're using linux.. and external RAM |
| 19:28.57 | prpplague | alex4nder: well with omap443x the ram is Package-on-Package |
| 19:29.11 | prpplague | alex4nder: and the encryption is pretty darn high |
| 19:29.15 | sunrunner20 | prpplague^2: i'm getting hit now, latter |
| 19:29.23 | roxfan | even in consoles ram encryption is not common... i think xbox360 does it |
| 19:29.40 | alex4nder | prpplague: right, but if I had insane Chinese reverse engineering money, if the RAM contents is in the clear, I'm going to get your data. |
| 19:29.53 | alex4nder | at least the data for the program you're currently running, and the buffers that are currently cached. |
| 19:29.58 | prpplague | sunrunner20: later |
| 19:30.20 | roxfan | if you're worried about that, you shouldn't be using commercial components |
| 19:30.28 | alex4nder | roxfan: that's exactly my point |
| 19:30.51 | alex4nder | these guys have this insane proposal, but it's not actually secure against anyone they want to protect against |
| 19:31.07 | ohsix | juicy |
| 19:31.38 | ohsix | you need to assume a well equipped adversary when you're trying to protect your stuff, and how much money or time it will take for them, and plan accordingly |
| 19:32.17 | alex4nder | it's like an engineer jerkoff session, from someone who read half of Applied Cryptography |
| 19:32.20 | ohsix | when you do, you'll find it's not worth it \m/ |
| 19:32.25 | ohsix | yes |
| 19:32.48 | ohsix | if you want to protect your software or hardware designs, don't sell them to anyone |
| 19:32.50 | alex4nder | ok, dead battery. |
| 19:32.52 | alex4nder | bbl |
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| 20:06.17 | landley | Reading just half that conversation is kind of amusing. I'm going to assume he's on the run from the police... |
| 20:19.37 | roxfan | who? |
| 20:25.26 | slashbeast | landley: https://lwn.net/Articles/490413/ are we going to die? |
| 20:43.19 | mnemoc | what happened to ndev? (netlink based mdev) |
| 20:57.25 | roxfan | i ate it, sorry :/ |
| 21:01.46 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 22:12.50 | sunrunner20 | well, that was interesting |
| 22:17.18 | calculus | are you still in Kansas with Toto? |
| 22:36.38 | sunrunner20 | Not quite sure.... |
| 22:36.58 | sunrunner20 | seen the flying trucks yet? |
| 22:37.10 | prpplague | well no major damage |
| 22:37.21 | prpplague | my new fence that i _just_ put up is gone |
| 22:37.29 | prpplague | couple of trees down |
| 22:37.35 | prpplague | and a few shingles missing |
| 22:38.08 | sunrunner20 | We gave up on fences after that happened a few times |
| 22:38.33 | prpplague | hoa required |
| 22:39.01 | sunrunner20 | ah |
| 22:39.29 | sunrunner20 | http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=8606592&syndicate=syndicate§ion |
| 22:42.10 | prpplague | wow |
| 22:42.17 | prpplague | thats about 5 miles from house |
| 22:43.39 | sunrunner20 | o.0 |
| 23:12.58 | MonMotha | prpplague: good to hear you are undamaged |
| 23:13.24 | prpplague | more worried about my wife, she was at home alone, and wasn't raised having to deal with tornadoes |
| 23:13.45 | sunrunner20 | ohhh |
| 23:14.03 | sunrunner20 | that is worrysome |
| 23:14.37 | MonMotha | oh, yes |
| 23:14.41 | sunrunner20 | but on another note, My cpu temp is higher when I run prime95 (benchmark utility/ pi calculator) inside vmware workstation then when I run it nativly on windows |
| 23:14.44 | MonMotha | that could be bad |
| 23:51.44 | prpplague | anyone have a good online xml tutorial for newbie? |