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| 02:17.21 | calculus | prpplague: would a pseudo-laptop of a motorola lapdock with a beagle/pandaboard be feasible? |
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| 03:09.24 | prpplague | calculus: i can't answer due to NDA |
| 03:09.34 | prpplague | calculus: but *cough* sounds like fun |
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| 05:39.14 | ashwini | ?? |
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| 14:18.08 | landley | Morningness. |
| 14:18.19 | landley | Last day before I get 9 days off. |
| 14:18.24 | landley | I am _so_ looking forward to catching up on real work... |
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| 16:11.06 | calculus | 9 days... that is a long memorial day weekend |
| 16:12.28 | prpplague | calculus: did you have a question for the other morning? |
| 16:12.36 | prpplague | can't remember if answered back |
| 16:20.00 | landley | calculus: 5 days off, 2 weekends. |
| 16:21.00 | landley | Work decided that everybody in Austin needs to take the whole week off (we're charged vacation days for it) so they people from the China facility can come and use our cubicles to get up to speed on the all our code. |
| 16:21.12 | landley | The guy who used to run the austin facility was replaced by somebody who lives in california, you see. |
| 16:21.37 | landley | Although he's visited austin a couple times since he was put in charge of it. We had donuts for one of his visits. |
| 16:21.51 | landley | Same brand of donuts they gave us to apologize for the layoffs a few months back. |
| 16:34.03 | calculus | prpplague: you kind of answered my question, you told me you were on an NDA |
| 16:34.29 | prpplague | calculus: :) |
| 16:36.04 | landley | An intel marketing thing recently asked me to sign an NDA to participate in some study they were doing. |
| 16:36.12 | landley | I almost went for it, but dude... |
| 16:36.26 | landley | The NDA said the study might go on for a year and I couldn't talk about what was in it for 5 years? |
| 16:36.29 | landley | I'm not tracking that. |
| 16:36.39 | landley | The headache of keeping TRACK of that stuff ain't worth it. |
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| 16:39.53 | prpplague | indeed |
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| 17:27.49 | wmat | Microchip Direct FAIL. They don't accept PayPal from non-US accounts. |
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| 21:15.39 | prpplague | anyone recognize the logo on this chip? http://i.imgur.com/eBG5p.jpg |
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| 21:32.56 | is0-mick | yeah |
| 21:33.01 | is0-mick | i do :) |
| 21:33.04 | is0-mick | i took the picture |
| 21:33.16 | prpplague | is0-mick: oh hey |
| 21:33.25 | prpplague | is0-mick: didnt know you were in the channel |
| 21:33.32 | prpplague | is0-mick: how long you been in here? |
| 21:33.33 | is0-mick | 2 secs i'll find the company its in the graphics driver |
| 21:33.44 | is0-mick | [19:57] == is0-mick [5771e8f1@gateway/web |
| 21:35.35 | is0-mick | license=GPL description=GP Display Driver author=Generalplus srcversion=2D36A3C207A30A1492369E3 |
| 21:36.36 | is0-mick | hi btw :) |
| 21:37.20 | is0-mick | I couldnt find much about that chip, theres also a GPL32900 which brings up some dev board running mario |
| 21:38.01 | is0-mick | http://www.threeway.cc/sitecn/Info.aspx?tid=1413&pid=1611 |
| 21:38.07 | is0-mick | is the dev board using the 32900 |
| 21:38.30 | is0-mick | http://www.generalplus.com/ seems to be the company that makes the chip |
| 21:41.13 | prpplague | ahh dandy thanks |
| 21:41.33 | prpplague | is0-mick: wow, i simply didn't see you in the channel |
| 21:41.37 | prpplague | is dismayed |
| 21:41.53 | is0-mick | nps :) |
| 21:42.54 | prpplague | is0-mick: couple of quick questions, what is the voltage levels of the TTL uart? |
| 21:43.12 | prpplague | is0-mick: and can you get a dump of /proc/cpuinfo put up on the wiki? |
| 21:44.17 | is0-mick | sure, im just getting little un ready for bed, i'll be back in 2 mins |
| 21:44.52 | prpplague | no worries, when you get time |
| 21:48.09 | is0-mick | i just used a max232 (5v) I had kicking around |
| 21:48.29 | is0-mick | seems to work fine |
| 21:48.53 | is0-mick | 2 mins i'll hook it up |
| 21:51.39 | prpplague | i suspect that the uart is actually 3.3, but that would probably work ok with a 5V tolerant adapter |
| 21:51.54 | is0-mick | yeah |
| 21:52.12 | is0-mick | i've found a few 3v3 devices are 5v tolerant |
| 21:52.16 | is0-mick | on uarts |
| 21:52.21 | is0-mick | or i/i |
| 21:52.25 | is0-mick | i/o* |
| 21:52.50 | is0-mick | I was formerly a windows guy, linux is still pretty new to me :D |
| 21:53.08 | is0-mick | so silly things most people know how to do, i dont |
| 21:53.21 | is0-mick | but i kinda jumped in at the other end, cross compiling kernels and stuff |
| 21:53.56 | is0-mick | ok i'll add the cpu info to the wiki |
| 21:58.55 | is0-mick | added |
| 21:59.03 | prpplague | :) |
| 21:59.22 | is0-mick | so, you have one of these too? |
| 22:00.06 | prpplague | is0-mick: hehe, no, but i will in about an hour |
| 22:00.11 | is0-mick | :) |
| 22:00.27 | prpplague | has hacked many a toy |
| 22:00.31 | is0-mick | i wonder if there's any dev's in here that would be able to help with my other project (which is on the back burner at the moment) |
| 22:00.51 | is0-mick | I was working on putting enigma2 on a skyhd box |
| 22:01.18 | prpplague | is not familiar with either of those |
| 22:01.19 | is0-mick | but it was becoming too complicated |
| 22:01.25 | is0-mick | ah no worries |
| 22:01.29 | is0-mick | back to the innotab then |
| 22:01.29 | prpplague | you can ask around, most of the folks here are linux kernel level |
| 22:01.34 | prpplague | not much userspace |
| 22:02.03 | is0-mick | there is a little bit of protection in the innotab for downloaded content |
| 22:02.06 | is0-mick | but thats about it |
| 22:02.40 | is0-mick | you can backup cartridges with a simple cp from the mountpoint to the sd card |
| 22:03.00 | prpplague | nice, i am guessing that they are simple nand flash devices? |
| 22:03.04 | is0-mick | yeah |
| 22:03.12 | is0-mick | vp_mnt/cart |
| 22:03.34 | prpplague | figured as much |
| 22:03.44 | prpplague | same method as the Didj series from leapfrog |
| 22:03.52 | is0-mick | the display is a bit weird, theres refs to tv output |
| 22:04.06 | is0-mick | theres a fb0 device, but which seems to return valid info |
| 22:04.13 | is0-mick | but, couldnt get it to display anything |
| 22:04.17 | is0-mick | and none of the apps use it |
| 22:04.36 | prpplague | is0-mick: probably hacked to use an accelerate enty |
| 22:04.42 | is0-mick | they all use dev/chunkmem for the framebuffer memory, and disp0 |
| 22:04.44 | prpplague | is0-mick: i'll have a look this evening |
| 22:04.58 | is0-mick | theres also a ppu which seems to be accelerated graphics |
| 22:05.19 | is0-mick | most of the apps have the debug symbols left in |
| 22:05.20 | is0-mick | :) |
| 22:05.38 | is0-mick | and are static linked with their main vtech lib |
| 22:05.47 | is0-mick | so thats not actually seperate |
| 22:05.55 | is0-mick | theres a flash player and mediaplayer on there too |
| 22:06.01 | is0-mick | i had it running some flash games |
| 22:06.02 | prpplague | most of these companies hire this out, and don't monitor the results for quality or license compliance |
| 22:06.26 | is0-mick | im no expert, but i think they are in breach of gpl |
| 22:06.35 | prpplague | already has 4 cease and desist from VTech, lets see if he gets another |
| 22:06.43 | prpplague | is0-mick: won't be the first time |
| 22:06.56 | prpplague | has already been in legal issues with VTech 4 previous times |
| 22:07.03 | is0-mick | yikes |
| 22:07.10 | calculus | wait, VTech is telling you to stop hacking |
| 22:07.39 | prpplague | calculus: hehe, fisherprice, oriegon scientific, mattel, leapfrog |
| 22:07.54 | prpplague | calculus: if they make kids toys, i probably have a cease and desist from them |
| 22:08.13 | is0-mick | i didnt realise it was illegal to port scummvm to a kids toy? |
| 22:08.14 | is0-mick | :p |
| 22:08.14 | calculus | prpplague: with you it is either NDAs or C&Ds |
| 22:08.36 | prpplague | calculus: indeed |
| 22:09.23 | prpplague | is0-mick: they usually make a case for DCMA saying i'm either violating copy protection, or distributing copyrighted material |
| 22:09.24 | calculus | there was a guy who figured out how the RFID in the new Spyro toys works, and got a Cease and desist from Activision |
| 22:11.26 | prpplague | checks the traffic |
| 22:12.19 | is0-mick | the only protection that i've really seen on the innotab, was the packaging it came in :p |
| 22:12.42 | is0-mick | you can hack it with just an sd card and a shell script |
| 22:13.03 | is0-mick | i actually did that first, the shell console was secondary |
| 22:13.28 | prpplague | is0-mick: i'll make an official request for source on tuesday |
| 22:13.29 | is0-mick | then i got bored, and thought i'd have a go with the scummvm |
| 22:13.42 | prpplague | is0-mick: see how that goes with a follow up with my lawyer |
| 22:14.03 | is0-mick | if you want to have a look at the firmware, download the LLN from vtech for it |
| 22:14.15 | is0-mick | it has a firmware file, which is compressed |
| 22:14.32 | is0-mick | then theres a few magic numbers in there for various bits, ramfs, squashfs |
| 22:14.41 | is0-mick | then you can extract all the files |
| 22:14.46 | prpplague | ahh dandy |
| 22:14.52 | is0-mick | thats what i did first, to see what it was doing internally |
| 22:14.55 | prpplague | i'll add that in this weekend |
| 22:15.27 | prpplague | decides to brave the friday 5 o'clock traffic |
| 22:15.33 | prpplague | is0-mick: thanks for the info! |
| 22:15.39 | prpplague | heads home |
| 22:15.41 | prpplague | bbiab |
| 22:15.42 | is0-mick | ./dev/loop0 on /home/mick/temp2 type squashfs (rw) /dev/loop1 on /home/mick/temp3 type cramfs (rw) |
| 22:15.43 | calculus | the saddest is what happened with linux on the ps3 |
| 22:16.05 | is0-mick | cramfs and squashfs |
| 22:16.13 | is0-mick | guess thats him for the day |
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| 23:03.42 | slashbeast | today I learn that adding acpi_osi=Linux to kernel boot params fix fuckton of issues. |
| 23:04.26 | ohsix | the problems still exist, you just bypass them |
| 23:04.47 | ohsix | the bios should be OS agnostic |
| 23:05.33 | slashbeast | well,with the acpi_osi=Linux the backlight control workson my laptop without loading 3rdparty nvidiabl module. |
| 23:05.47 | slashbeast | on my eeepc the SuperHybridEngine started working also. |
| 23:05.58 | slashbeast | so I can downclock my cpu to 1.2GHz (from 1.8) |
| 23:34.10 | *** join/#edev mrcan_ (~mrcan@unaffiliated/mrcan) |
