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| 14:29.22 | CosmicPenguin | I've been engaged in a 3 day long battle roayale with GFP_ZERO |
| 14:29.24 | CosmicPenguin | And I'm losing |
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| 15:10.20 | CosmicPenguin | I'm programming out of spite today |
| 15:16.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 15:19.07 | T0mW | good to be humble |
| 15:19.21 | T0mW | less strees |
| 15:19.23 | T0mW | less stress |
| 15:19.59 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:20.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: submitted a couple presentations for linux.conf.au |
| 15:20.39 | T0mW | doing parts lists for board today, ho-hum |
| 15:21.18 | prpplague | T0mW: fun fun fun |
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| 15:21.37 | prpplague | oops |
| 15:22.50 | T0mW | yeah, sorting out what it was that I ordered the first go-around. We no longer have a purchasing department so it is kind of hard to find what the first order actually was, heh. |
| 15:23.36 | T0mW | somehow, magically, when I get my partslist together, the material will appear! |
| 15:23.50 | T0mW | wonders who will be stuck ordering the parts. |
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| 15:26.55 | T0mW | I'm wondering about frame buffer stuff. The fb_dev I've created uses and 8 bit font and the imagebit, copyrect and fillrect are all on byte boudaries for the bit start and width. |
| 15:27.21 | T0mW | if I use a 12 bit wide font, am I going to see boundaries on nibbles? |
| 15:31.00 | av500 | yes |
| 15:31.08 | av500 | you need read /modify/write |
| 15:31.15 | av500 | if you need to write single chars |
| 15:32.20 | av500 | depends on how fancy your gui is |
| 15:32.35 | av500 | if you can make all text labels even chars long it should be no issue |
| 15:33.38 | T0mW | av500: when you open the frame buffer (/dev/fb0) for writing from userspace, I could see imagablit on bit boundaries then? |
| 15:33.54 | av500 | ? |
| 15:34.07 | T0mW | e.g. graphics draw, freetype, etc. |
| 15:34.08 | av500 | if you are not vsynced, you can always see tearing |
| 15:34.27 | av500 | and if you compose in-place, you can see tearing too |
| 15:34.36 | av500 | dont know what this has to do with font width |
| 15:34.39 | T0mW | "tearing" being? |
| 15:34.48 | av500 | a vertical split |
| 15:34.53 | T0mW | ah |
| 15:34.58 | T0mW | hmm |
| 15:35.01 | av500 | with old and new content |
| 15:35.08 | av500 | only happens when stuff moves mostly |
| 15:35.16 | av500 | but you could see it due to erase and redraw |
| 15:35.21 | av500 | depends on your "gui" |
| 15:35.32 | av500 | double buffering can fix that |
| 15:35.47 | av500 | or you compose offline and memcpy the result after vsync |
| 15:40.07 | T0mW | yeah, I'll have to experiment more. Currently my video device is really odd, it is "black & white" (Electro-Luminescent), and it uses only 6 bits to show 6 pixels of any byte you write into the it. So, 312 pixels across the display row would be 52 bytes. |
| 15:40.58 | T0mW | I have to take let sys_imageblit copy the image into the frame buffer ram, then update the display by shifting out the data 6 bits at a time. |
| 15:41.31 | av500 | rfb |
| 15:41.32 | T0mW | I got it working with an 8bit console font. Now, I need to move on to open the /dev/fb0 and draw lines on it. |
| 15:41.38 | av500 | remote frame buffer |
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| 15:46.57 | T0mW | well, it is probably going to be interesting to do the graphics on this. I'm just now building the kernel for the mini 4x6 font to see what happens with my driver. |
| 15:47.57 | prpplague | T0mW: if you want to see some simple font interfacing with fbdev, you can look at my fb-test application |
| 15:48.18 | prpplague | T0mW: https://github.com/prpplague/fb-test-app |
| 15:48.23 | T0mW | prpplague: any input is welcome, thanks |
| 15:51.13 | CosmicPenguin | defeats GFP_ZERO and hangs its corpse from the castle wall as a warning to the other memory flags |
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| 15:54.15 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, this will help. It is a simple app written by someone else who has their understanding of working with the frame buffer. I can check my understanding by using this. |
| 15:54.28 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:54.44 | T0mW | sometimes I just make things up as I go along... |
| 15:55.00 | prpplague | :) |
| 15:55.01 | T0mW | then get screwed later |
| 15:55.14 | prpplague | T0mW: i think CosmicPenguin and i can tell you that most of us do the same |
| 16:01.30 | CosmicPenguin | There is another way to do it? |
| 16:01.52 | CosmicPenguin | wonders if "suck it" is acceptable language for a git commit message |
| 16:02.52 | av500 | +1 |
| 16:07.13 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: depends on your context |
| 16:08.37 | T0mW | prpplague: that is why we "innovate", we don't know any better. |
| 16:09.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe funny you should mention that |
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| 16:35.07 | calculus | ESC needs to work on their marketing a bit better... I just saw a giant poster on the side of a train saying ESC March 2012 in San Jose |
| 16:40.47 | Mirell | Hmm.. |
| 16:41.11 | Mirell | Time to job hunt again. |
| 16:43.27 | T0mW | Mirell: voluntary? |
| 16:44.31 | Mirell | To an extent. I resigned because I couldn't take the high stress anymore. |
| 16:46.03 | landley | Mirell: polycom's hiring. |
| 16:46.11 | landley | Not sure it's lower stress though. |
| 16:46.26 | CosmicPenguin | There are lower stress jobs? |
| 16:46.29 | CosmicPenguin | Why wasn't I informed of this before? |
| 16:46.51 | landley | CosmicPenguin: I've had low-stress jobs. They were great. |
| 16:46.55 | landley | The problem is sustainability. |
| 16:47.18 | CosmicPenguin | See also the country of Italy |
| 16:47.32 | landley | Mirell: how are you about cubicles? |
| 16:51.05 | av500 | looks around in _his_ office.... |
| 16:51.33 | av500 | sees the private bath and shower ... |
| 16:51.45 | av500 | the balcony |
| 16:51.58 | av500 | and all the junk :) |
| 17:00.24 | CosmicPenguin | I have enough room where I can walk around in loops and get a serious head of steam going |
| 17:00.30 | CosmicPenguin | Its like my own personal angry dome |
| 17:00.51 | CosmicPenguin | With my standing desk, I don't even have to get up to get angry |
| 17:00.52 | CosmicPenguin | its great |
| 17:02.42 | av500 | :) |
| 17:03.11 | calculus | reminds me of the cartoons where the guy pacing in circles eventually digs a trench |
| 17:04.12 | aholler | "don't trust any idea you've got while sitting down" |
| 17:04.15 | prpplague | Mirell: doh |
| 17:04.19 | prpplague | Mirell: sorry to hear that |
| 17:07.09 | aholler | some years ago, when've worked for ibm in something like a bunker, we used to walk regulary outside around the office |
| 17:08.31 | aholler | it's really good to talk about stuff while walking |
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| 17:21.29 | T0mW | landley: "sustaiability" meaning your bank balance |
| 17:34.07 | landley | TOmW: sustainability meaning the job remaining stress-free. |
| 17:34.22 | landley | Timesys was marvelous... for the first 6 months. |
| 17:34.33 | landley | This job was great... until we moved to the new building. |
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| 20:05.41 | landley | Code of conduct video training on the web. Wheee... |
| 20:14.11 | landley | "Any employee who reports a known or suspected violation in good faith will be protected from retaliation". |
| 20:14.16 | landley | But if it's new to us, you're screwed. |
| 20:14.38 | landley | (The last bit's implied.) |
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| 23:22.56 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 23:23.05 | prpplague | slaps CosmicPenguin around |
| 23:23.17 | CosmicPenguin | What? |
| 23:23.22 | CosmicPenguin | Not called for |
| 23:24.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats for taunting me with cask brew |
| 23:25.35 | prpplague | groans |
| 23:25.43 | prpplague | ate too much at the cinema |
| 23:26.32 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.thekitchn.com/celebrate-independence-15-regional-craft-brews-to-drink-this-july-4th-beer-sessions-173512 |
| 23:26.35 | CosmicPenguin | Lets mock that list |
| 23:26.50 | CosmicPenguin | Nothing from Sierra Nevada qualfies as craft beer anymore |
| 23:27.12 | CosmicPenguin | Love Arrogant Bastard and Black Butte Porter - those can stay |
| 23:27.35 | CosmicPenguin | 1554 is good, but if we strike Sierra Nevada as macro, we have to strike New Belgium too |
| 23:27.50 | CosmicPenguin | Now, Moose Drool - thats a drinkable beer right there |
| 23:28.00 | CosmicPenguin | But nothing from Avery is good |
| 23:29.08 | prpplague | hehe |
| 23:29.13 | prpplague | good accessment |