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| 00:21.46 | mephisto | Hello! I'm a software engineer and a newbie in the embedded field, I'd like to learn more about the electronic side of things, like board designing, electronics for embedded systems etc, do you guys recommend a tutorial or book? |
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| 03:36.48 | calculus | sjhill: ping, do you happen to admin the linux-mips mailing list? I should have a post waiting for moderation |
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| 06:00.23 | sjhill | calculus: you'll have to ping Ralf on #mipslinux |
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| 10:49.31 | Mephisto___ | Hi! I'm hesitating about two components; Android tablet (freescale) and Asus EeeBox; the main use would be in the embedded field, here are the links |
| 10:49.32 | Mephisto___ | http://www.amazon.com/Asus-EeeBox-EB1501P-B016E-Complete-System/dp/B0041ULKW2 |
| 10:49.46 | Mephisto___ | http://www.arts.tn/ang/apercu.php |
| 10:50.08 | Mephisto___ | would you please give me your opinions? |
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| 11:54.49 | SpeedEvil | has anyone heard anything about the pogo pins on the nexus 7? Due to random reasons at the moment, my main computer is a raspberry pi, for the next couple of days at least, so getting the repos properly s problematic. |
| 11:55.39 | SpeedEvil | Is there anywhere with online browsable source that specifically covers the nexus 7 - the android source browser I found seemed to have no nexus 7 hw related stuff at all. |
| 11:55.44 | SpeedEvil | Want to read the pogo pin driver. |
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| 17:27.40 | wmat | SpeedEvil: that's a good question |
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| 18:20.20 | SpeedEvil | Also unless I'm confused, it seems that the RAM can be upgraded. (if you can find the parts, and the SoC can cope) |
| 18:24.09 | calculus | oh, it is not PoP memory |
| 18:26.06 | SpeedEvil | Nope. |
| 18:26.15 | SpeedEvil | Pretty normal DDRN memory |
| 18:26.16 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: what are we talking about? |
| 18:26.25 | SpeedEvil | Nexus 7 |
| 18:27.09 | SpeedEvil | The ram is 256M*8. Pin compatible (mostly) parts are available in 512*8 |
| 18:27.45 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: iirc the jump from 256 to 512 requires an additional address line |
| 18:27.48 | landley | Is the ram soldered or socketed? |
| 18:27.54 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: and lots of times they don't route it |
| 18:28.00 | prpplague | SpeedEvil: if they don't plan to upgrade |
| 18:28.03 | SpeedEvil | Soldered of course. |
| 18:28.05 | SpeedEvil | Indeed. |
| 18:28.33 | SpeedEvil | Though I do have a photoframe here whch was upgraded from 8 to 32M of RAM. |
| 18:28.57 | landley | I've been writing up my Epic Slog through git bisecting everything the kernel guys broke between the 3.3 and 3.4 kernels, and how I tracked down patches to fix them. |
| 18:29.14 | landley | I didn't get the writeup done before 3.5 came out, of course. And of course they broke the SAME THING AGAIN, but now in a new way. |
| 18:29.18 | landley | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=1bc39ac5dab265b76ce6e20d6c85f900539fd190 |
| 18:29.40 | landley | "The code doesn't match the comments/documentation. It's been out there working for more than 5 years. Let's change the code to match the comments!" |
| 18:29.43 | landley | Oh yeah, that'll end well. |
| 18:30.30 | landley | (Trust the code, not the comments. "A running program is the moment of truth, all else is prophecy or nostalgia" is an old saying for a REASON.) |
| 18:30.38 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 18:31.27 | landley | So yeah, 2 consecutive releases where it doesn't work without patching. Par for the course off of x86. |
| 18:33.25 | ohsix | the code should match the comments :] it's hard to tell which should change when you're fixing it, but it's easy to overlook updating the comments when you change the code |
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| 18:51.42 | aholler | I think "and use the standard PCI swizzle |
| 18:51.49 | aholler | " is the point |
| 18:56.57 | aholler | but anyway, thats arm ;) |
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| 18:58.47 | wmat | man, I hate sad news |
| 18:59.19 | wmat | cancer sucks |
| 18:59.31 | SpeedEvil | It really does. |
| 18:59.45 | wmat | jon corbett's wife passed |
| 19:00.34 | prpplague | wmat: oh wow that explains why a bunch of his pages haven't been updated in a while |
| 19:08.11 | wmat | yeah it's sad |
| 19:08.35 | wmat | I lost a good friend a month ago as well. This summer can't end soon enough, I tell ya. |
| 19:10.26 | wmat | I need something good to happen. Maybe my Nexus7 will arrive today. |
| 19:11.10 | aholler | doesn't it just mean more work? ;) |
| 19:11.40 | wmat | heh, sure, but that kind of work == fun for me |
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| 20:10.26 | SpeedEvil | wmat: It is a nice platform. I have a Wopad I7, and shortly before the launch of the nexus, I was looking to upgrade, and sort-of-eyeing the 10" wopads and similar, as they had 1G RAM. |
| 20:11.06 | SpeedEvil | But - at 50% more for a actual top-of-the-line (in some ways) tablet, it was a no-brainer. |
| 20:11.54 | SpeedEvil | 30%, I forgot import duty |
| 20:19.38 | aholler | isn't that something complete different? rockchip vs. tegra3? |
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| 21:17.00 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 21:30.39 | landley | wmat: ouch. |
| 21:32.01 | landley | wmat: the lwn.net guy? |
| 21:32.04 | landley | Where'd you hear this? |
| 21:32.05 | prpplague | yea |
| 21:32.39 | landley | No wonder the site's been a bit less frequently updated recently. |
| 21:32.58 | landley | (I emailed in the bit about the checkpoint code, because I still follow Kir's blog on livejournal from when I did the parallels contract...) |
| 21:44.32 | prpplague | landley: yea i noticed as well |
| 21:45.06 | wmat | landley: jon posted the news on G+ |
| 21:50.44 | landley | Ouch. |
| 21:58.08 | roxfan | what news? |
| 21:58.21 | prpplague | wmat: i re-arrainged my circles, and now i don't seem to be getting all the posts that i should :( |
| 22:04.45 | landley | I haven't been able to log into google+ for months, their system hiccuped and once again freaked out that landley.net has a google domain thing and rob@landley.net was an alias for a gmail account before that and I'm in the database TWICE and they UTTERLY CANNOT COPE... |
| 22:05.25 | landley | And mostly I'm treating it as "like facebook, but less so" and ignoring it too. But every once in a while something interesting comes up... |
| 22:06.07 | landley | (Basically any attempt to fix it has about a 50% chance of breaking my email. I only wash it through their servers for the spam filtering, but I kind of _use_ my email...) |
| 22:07.39 | roxfan | use another email for it? |
| 22:17.04 | landley | roxfan: it doesn't mean enough to me. If Google can't get its act together, this is not my problem. |
| 22:17.27 | roxfan | makes sense |
| 22:19.01 | landley | I've got a blog, a twitter, an old livejournal, and a website. I think I'm covered. |
| 22:19.18 | landley | I made a google+ and they broke it a week later. "Oh well then." |
| 22:19.55 | landley | What I should _really_ do is get my kernel.org account fixed so I can update kernel.org/doc, but after wasting an entire weekend on that with no visible progress a few months back, it's hard to work up the enthusiasm to try again... |
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