IRC log for #edev on 20120823

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15:09.19*** topic/#edev is Discussion of embedded systems (Hardware/Software/Linux/Commercial Device Repurposing) : Busybox and Buildroot : http://www.elinux.org
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15:49.43prpplagueav500: did you have some feedback on the tools presenation?
15:50.04prpplaguei was in a rush this morning and didn't get to read all the comments(saved to the log for tonight)
15:52.08landleyprpplague: there was a tools presentation?
15:52.17prpplaguelandley: hehe
15:52.26prpplaguelandley: not yet, giving one at linuxcon next week
15:52.41prpplaguelandley: just posted the slides for some early flame
15:52.48landleyah
15:53.05prpplaguelandley: feel free to throw lighter fluid
15:53.08prpplaguelandley: http://elinux.org/LCNA-opentools
15:55.26prpplaguelandley: http://lcna2012.sched.org/event/df97704300418c3eee409c7254c5160d#.UDZSXmY6css
15:55.26av500[12:43:29] <av500> hmm, history of the bunsen burner
15:55.28av500[12:43:35] <av500> I am looking for a demo at ELCE!!!
15:55.30av500[12:43:37] <av500> prpplague: ^^^
15:55.31av500[12:43:48] <av500> maybe "debug" and r-pi?
15:55.33prpplagueav500: hehe
15:55.41prpplagueav500: sounds like a plan
15:55.55prpplagueav500: lets do it on the patio as to not setoff the sprinklers
15:56.18prpplagueav500: did you look at the slides or just see the listing on the reference pages?
15:57.12av500i looked at them at 25fps
15:57.15av500this morning
15:57.19av500so, no
15:57.26prpplagueav500: hehe
15:57.31av500sorry
15:57.36prpplagueav500: no worries
15:57.42av500but I needed to do pretend work :)
15:57.46prpplagueav500: HA
15:57.56prpplagueav500: need to tweak them a little
15:58.35av500https://plus.google.com/u/0/112266164281670850856/posts/FVqHCB594hG
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16:16.21prpplaguewmat: i'll add a little more introduction to the oscope and LA pages
16:16.38prpplaguewmat: i was worried about spending too much time on history and functionality
16:16.57av500i dont think you need to introduce scopes
16:18.11prpplagueav500: well it is more to the linuxcon crowd
16:18.25av500and?
16:18.31av500shroud yourself in some mystery
16:18.38av500"expensive magic things"
16:18.43prpplagueav500: i was planning to do a short survey before starting the presentation to see what kind of level of experience they have had
16:18.46prpplagueav500: yea
16:18.59prpplagueav500: slightly different crowd than ELC
16:19.02av500oscilazers!
16:19.09prpplaguehehe
16:19.20prpplaguegoes to get coffee, bbiaf
16:20.59wmatprpplague: I think you're slides give you a lot of room to move into more detailed as you talk if you want to; which is good.
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16:45.49prpplaguewmat: yea that was kind of the plan, if i find with a quick survey that there were more/less understanding of the tools
16:46.55GPSFanprpplague, did you have any customs issues getting your odroid-x?
16:47.32prpplagueGPSFan: none
16:47.44prpplagueGPSFan: it arrive yesterday morning via express mail
16:47.49prpplagueGPSFan: the box was a little damaged
16:47.52prpplagueGPSFan: but no issues
16:48.02GPSFanprpplague, it work? ;>)
16:48.10prpplagueGPSFan: their customer service sucks though
16:48.15prpplagueGPSFan: yea seems so
16:48.41GPSFanprpplague, how long did it take from shipping date? and how much was shipping?
16:49.08prpplaguechecks the facts to answer those questions
16:49.35GPSFanappreciates prpplague's honesty
16:50.10prpplagueGPSFan: notice says it was shipped on the 17th and arrived on the 23rd
16:50.37prpplagueGPSFan: shipping was $40USD
16:50.55prpplagueGPSFan: i got the eMMC module and the debug uart
16:51.54GPSFanprpplague, not bad from far east, $40 is a bit steep, I've seen $30 shopping mentioned on several places it seems to vary though, I guess the eMMC & uart were big & heavy ;>)
16:52.21prpplagueindeed
16:52.32prpplagueGPSFan: i ordered it for TI mainly
16:52.37GPSFanprpplague, thanks
16:52.46prpplagueGPSFan: they tried ordering with their TI credit cards, but it kept getting denied
16:52.54GPSFanof course, gotta have insight into the competition
16:53.01prpplagueguesses hardkernel didn't want to sell to TI
16:53.50prpplagueGPSFan: so i will tweak the slides tonight and do a couple of run throughs
16:54.12GPSFanprpplague, k, let me look at it when you are done.
16:54.13prpplagueGPSFan: i had to work very hard not to put a lot of history in there
16:54.29GPSFanyou can get lost in hostory
16:54.38GPSFanhistory even
16:54.38prpplague's new carry on bag arrived yesterday as well
16:54.41prpplagueGPSFan: indeed
16:55.12GPSFan400ft^3 in the space of a small knapsack.... Tardis technology.
16:55.40prpplaguehehe
16:56.14prpplagueGPSFan: http://www.amazon.com/Travelpro-Crew-Inch-Rollaboard-Black/dp/B003H4Q050
16:56.54GPSFanneeds a panda logo on the side
16:57.29GPSFanand a beagle on the other
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17:00.23prpplagueGPSFan: hehe
17:00.26prpplagueCrofton: hey hey
17:03.50Croftonhey
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17:04.34peppuxhello
17:04.56prpplaguegreetings earthling
17:06.07peppux:)
17:07.12peppuxi've an old router, is it possible to change the os?
17:08.10prpplaguepeppux: it depends on what hardware is used on the router, often you can simply google the make and model with the word linux
17:08.25prpplaguepeppux: that usually will give you some idea if someone else has done it
17:08.25peppuxit's a dlink router
17:12.46peppuxhm
17:13.10peppuxwhere can i buy an embedded device, without any firmware?
17:13.43prpplaguepeppux: there are literally hundreds if not thousands of inexpensive options
17:13.57prpplaguepeppux: it depends greatly on what you ultimate goal is
17:14.44peppuxprpplague, for testing
17:15.12peppuxi need only cpu, serial and ethernet interface
17:15.22peppuxno vga, audio, or other
17:15.26prpplaguepeppux: get a beagle or pandaboard
17:15.47peppuxdo you know the cost?
17:15.50prpplaguepeppux: beaglebone is just $80 and has a large support community
17:16.11Croftonare they any annoying binary blobs for the bone?
17:16.27prpplagueCrofton: not that i am aware of
17:16.31prpplaguepeppux: http://beagleboard.org/bone/
17:17.23prpplagueCrofton: but i suspect you were aware of that...
17:17.41Croftonhttps://twitter.com/hairymnstr
17:17.47CroftonI couldn't remember
17:18.04CroftonI do not need to use such things mtself
17:18.14prpplaguehehe
17:18.17prpplagueCrofton: indeed
17:18.26peppuxif i have an embedded device without os, how can i load it?
17:20.41prpplagueCrofton: posting that on g+
17:20.55prpplaguepeppux: beaglebone has full linux support
17:21.00prpplaguepeppux: plus many examples
17:21.07prpplaguepeppux: you can follow tutorials
17:21.15prpplaguepeppux: join the #beagle channel
17:21.33peppuxprpplague, i need an embedded device without any operating system or firmware
17:21.57prpplaguepeppux: the beaglebone comes without operating system or firmware
17:22.02prpplaguepeppux: you have to load it yourself
17:22.40peppuxgood
17:22.57peppuxthanks :)
17:48.46daliaslandley, cool
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