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| 01:03.45 | prpplague | anyone have pros/cons for working for nvidia? |
| 01:12.30 | calculus | some of their research they did in their intern program sounded quite cool |
| 01:13.10 | prpplague | calculus: i was looking for more company culture wise |
| 01:13.19 | prpplague | calculus: i.e. conferences, pay, open source |
| 01:13.23 | prpplague | that kind of stuff |
| 01:13.28 | calculus | figured |
| 01:29.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
| 01:29.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you are getting ping'd in a G+ coversation |
| 01:29.39 | prpplague | tries to remember if calculus is on G+ |
| 02:26.42 | calculus | prpplague: I am not |
| 02:27.06 | prpplague | calculus: are you anti-social or something? |
| 02:27.14 | prpplague | jokes with calculus |
| 02:27.20 | prpplague | calculus: need to sign up bud |
| 02:27.20 | calculus | prpplague: I show up at conferences :) |
| 02:27.31 | prpplague | calculus: G+ is for between conferences |
| 02:29.15 | calculus | back to jobs, I think the promise of open source is a carrot on a stick, my first project here (of which I ended up spending 3 years on) was promised to be open sourced and I was excited about that |
| 02:29.40 | calculus | when it came time to deliver, they double checked the contract and there was no requirement to open source, so nothing happened |
| 02:31.33 | landley | Been there. |
| 02:31.55 | landley | My favorite is "we'll open source when it's done" and endless feature creep means it's never done... |
| 02:32.04 | landley | Of course that company never shipped, and went under. |
| 02:32.31 | landley | I have a talk I need to clean up about grown the community as you grow the codebase. |
| 02:32.46 | landley | If you drop 2 years of work on people, the learning curve is vertical. |
| 02:32.58 | prpplague | calculus: well........ |
| 02:33.08 | landley | Even if you don't get many active developers, you get comment and review and the mailing list leaves a trail of breadcrumbs to answer questions with. |
| 02:33.08 | prpplague | calculus: complicated answer to that |
| 02:33.44 | prpplague | calculus: i think landley would agree with me on a few things here and there |
| 02:33.54 | prpplague | calculus: you should always be proud of the work you do |
| 02:33.58 | prpplague | calculus: open or closed |
| 02:34.25 | prpplague | calculus: if you are working on some wiring in a house, and you know after the walls get closed no one will ever see that wiring again |
| 02:34.41 | prpplague | calculus: you should still at the end of the day know that you did good work |
| 02:34.46 | prpplague | calculus: with that said |
| 02:34.58 | prpplague | calculus: we are all prostitutes of the mind |
| 02:35.06 | landley | I was proud of the closed work I did, earlier in my career. |
| 02:35.22 | prpplague | calculus: shove a wade of $100 in our face and we will do whatever |
| 02:35.27 | landley | But burying my code in a sea trench where it's never seen again is not what I want to do with my life. |
| 02:35.37 | prpplague | landley: agreed |
| 02:35.53 | prpplague | landley: once you have some "street credit" you can make a lot of choices |
| 02:36.11 | prpplague | calculus: i like to take a que from my army days |
| 02:36.15 | calculus | landley has that in spades |
| 02:36.40 | calculus | I was quite proud of some the things I wrote |
| 02:36.43 | prpplague | calculus: if you are on the battle field, only you and god get to judge yourself for your actions.... |
| 02:36.51 | calculus | I just wish management was more clear about that aspect |
| 02:37.07 | prpplague | calculus: just fyi, 99% will never be |
| 02:37.23 | prpplague | calculus: but that doesn't mean you can't make things work your way |
| 02:38.54 | landley | I made choices before I had street cred. That's how I _got_ it. I just lived very cheaply. |
| 02:39.15 | landley | October 1 I gave my two weeks notice at a very lucrative job, with good benefits, after a year of doing it. |
| 02:39.21 | landley | Because it's not what I want to do with my life. |
| 02:39.49 | landley | Still unemployed, taking time off to catch up on aboriginal, toybox, kernel stuff... |
| 02:40.16 | landley | starting to dink at qcc after http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIzMTQ |
| 02:41.17 | prpplague | landley: hehe yea, but you have "style" |
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| 02:51.39 | landley | I dunno about style. I just actually _like_ programming. |
| 02:51.49 | prpplague | _Lucretia_: everytime you log in i see in my minds eye i see the painting of lucrezia borgia |
| 02:51.52 | landley | If I didn't like it, it wouldn't be what I spent my time doing. |
| 02:51.58 | prpplague | landley: hehe you have style |
| 02:55.41 | _Lucretia_ | that is one reference |
| 02:55.53 | _Lucretia_ | and iirc it was lucretia borgia |
| 02:56.42 | prpplague | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucrezia_Borgia |
| 02:56.57 | prpplague | the T is a modernation |
| 02:57.29 | prpplague | or at least what i know of her |
| 02:57.52 | prpplague | is always welcome to a better education |
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| 03:27.17 | prpplague | _Lucretia_: welcome back |
| 03:27.27 | prpplague | landley: you do anything with the texas linux fest? |
| 04:02.13 | landley | prpplague: not really. |
| 04:02.16 | landley | I've attended twice. |
| 04:02.38 | landley | Haven't presented, not involved in running it. |
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| 16:13.40 | jackmitchell | does anyone know how to automatically make a directory in automake |
| 16:14.06 | jackmitchell | I have been trying with mkdir -p ${datadir}/saved in the install-data-hook but it does't work |
| 16:14.21 | jackmitchell | then I found ${mkdir_p} but it seems that is obsolete |
| 16:51.03 | mnemoc | tried adding a placeholder file in that dir? |
| 16:51.33 | mnemoc | no one likes empty dirs.... |
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