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| 16:04.40 | landley | prplague: that's a bit like if via conspicuously hadn't licensed x86-64 back in 2003 or so. |
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| 16:13.10 | landley | GNU/Dammit sed 4.1.5, the one in SLES11sp2, treats "sed -ir" and "sed -i -r" differently. |
| 16:13.21 | landley | The second enables in-place and extended regular expressions. |
| 16:13.30 | landley | The first just enables in-place, and the r is ignored. |
| 16:14.11 | landley | (Yes, this is the version the sed maintainer abandoned recently citing not wanting to get any more of the gnu project on him: http://lwn.net/Articles/530460/rss ) |
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| 19:45.08 | calculus | weee, dbus coming to the kernel.. http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/af_bus.html |
| 19:45.49 | _av500_ | \o/ |
| 19:45.54 | _av500_ | systemdbus? |
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| 19:47.57 | keesj | why not binder it is so much better designed |
| 19:48.41 | calculus | on his g+ post, he says that binder could be implemented on top of it |
| 19:49.41 | keesj | I mean if you just want the thing to perform implement a proper protocol zeromq and such have shown you don't need a kernel module to perform properly |
| 19:51.20 | keesj | biner has so much more. it's simple and has a nice layer on top. e.g. I like the idea of propagating priorities for example |
| 19:53.23 | keesj | the daemon currently eats cpu as it needs to parse the content to determine who can get messages and do some reexpt stuff before it can determine where to go from there. |
| 19:54.21 | keesj | We are in luck we have unix sockets as this at least gives some nice features like file handle passing. |
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| 20:04.19 | keesj | I just realized (I am working in MINIX) the more messaging features you add to you kernel the more you can do in userspace. |
| 20:05.00 | keesj | if dbus makes it to the kernel it won't take long before some driver starts talking dbus to userland, and userland to implement drivers over dbus |
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| 20:07.21 | _av500_ | keesj: soon we will have a microkernel :) |
| 20:23.59 | keesj | any time now |
| 20:26.17 | keesj | does anybody here knows or goes to http://www.embedded-world.de/ ? |
| 20:26.27 | _av500_ | yes |
| 20:26.30 | _av500_ | 28th |
| 20:27.09 | keesj | I always go to FOSDEM and such (and LINUX tag once) but this is going to be my first time |
| 20:28.29 | keesj | is it any good? |
| 20:29.07 | _av500_ | no idea |
| 20:29.11 | _av500_ | never was there |
| 20:29.27 | _av500_ | I guess its good if you want overpriced industrial stuff and toolchains |
| 20:31.03 | keesj | we will have a stand there (MINIX 3) I guess I am the business of selling overpriced industrial stuff and toolchains |
| 20:31.06 | keesj | :p |
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| 20:32.36 | _av500_ | :) |
| 20:32.44 | _av500_ | i'll visit you |
| 20:32.49 | _av500_ | have a signed CD handy |
| 20:46.39 | keesj | no problem thanks! |
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| 21:21.56 | calculus | landley: this is all about you: http://www.xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 21:24.22 | prpplague | hahahaha |
| 21:24.52 | landley | calculus: won't go near emacs voluntarily. |
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| 21:28.29 | Shinda | hello all |
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