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| 00:38.52 | calculus | prpplague: you mentioned taking the binary watch through TSA, try this timer: http://dalpix.com/fake-hollywood-bomb |
| 00:39.05 | prpplague | calculus: yea i saw that |
| 00:39.10 | prpplague | calculus: hehe funny |
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| 12:23.11 | T0mW | prpplague: ping |
| 13:10.44 | prpplague | T0mW: pong |
| 13:10.54 | prpplague | T0mW: sorry was up late with minnow x3 layout review |
| 13:11.05 | T0mW | prpplague: heh |
| 13:11.20 | T0mW | brb |
| 13:17.29 | T0mW | prpplague: late nights make mean wives |
| 13:17.38 | prpplague | T0mW: indeed |
| 13:18.06 | prpplague | T0mW: J1 on the trainer is the ICSP header on the Arduino - https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11224 |
| 13:18.16 | prpplague | T0mW: if you can get similar placement that would be good |
| 13:19.41 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, um, but I was thinking that if the connector were outside of the footprint, then if a shield were installed, you could still access that J1 connector. |
| 13:20.08 | T0mW | prpplague: I assume that is a flash programming connector? |
| 13:20.19 | prpplague | T0mW: true, but most people really won't be using the header, we normally just use it to get the bootloader on their during production |
| 13:20.33 | T0mW | prpplague: ok. |
| 13:20.37 | prpplague | T0mW: once the bootloader is on there, they load their programs on via the uart |
| 13:20.46 | T0mW | righ |
| 13:20.50 | T0mW | t |
| 13:20.54 | T0mW | heh |
| 13:21.40 | prpplague | T0mW: for the USB interface, lets just change the connector a to a 4 pin 0.1" header, so they can solder to it or use one of these style of external connectors - http://www.elinux.org/Panda_How_to_add_2_USBs |
| 13:22.05 | prpplague | T0mW: oh and change me from Dave to David, hehe |
| 13:22.22 | prpplague | T0mW: other than that it looks fantastic |
| 13:22.36 | T0mW | prpplague: thank you. |
| 13:23.17 | T0mW | prpplague: went through all the toruble of routing between those vias under the arduino, then you tell me that you don't need them. sigh |
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| 13:23.22 | prpplague | T0mW: change alive to "AVR PWR" |
| 13:23.25 | T0mW | ;) |
| 13:23.30 | T0mW | ok |
| 13:23.40 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe sorry, i figured youd send me a placement first, hehe |
| 13:24.09 | prpplague | T0mW: i need to double check the reset button |
| 13:24.21 | prpplague | T0mW: i think i want to have that replaced |
| 13:24.24 | T0mW | prpplague: it is kinda small. |
| 13:25.18 | prpplague | T0mW: yea lets use this one - https://www.sparkfun.com/products/97 |
| 13:25.25 | prpplague | T0mW: there is an eagle footprint lib there for it |
| 13:26.10 | T0mW | prpplague: http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?x=16&y=16&lang=en&site=us&KeyWords=P12196S-ND |
| 13:26.19 | T0mW | prpplague: 7mm and I got the footprint |
| 13:26.48 | prpplague | T0mW: yea that should be the same footprint |
| 13:26.50 | prpplague | looks |
| 13:26.51 | T0mW | prpplague: 6mm x 6mm |
| 13:27.15 | T0mW | prpplague: has a shaft that sticks up. |
| 13:27.50 | prpplague | T0mW: yea same mechanical |
| 13:27.58 | prpplague | T0mW: replace it with that one |
| 13:28.27 | prpplague | tries to think if there is anything else |
| 13:30.12 | T0mW | prpplague: this is a bit larger, 7mm, also has shaft + it is surface mount: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/TL6120AF300QG/EG4354TR-ND/1137161 |
| 13:30.50 | prpplague | T0mW: we already stock that 6mmx6mm part, we have about 50k in stock |
| 13:30.53 | T0mW | prpplague: I used the through hole on earlier design, then used that switch to eliminate as much through hole as I could. |
| 13:31.14 | T0mW | prpplague: ok, then I'll use the through hole digi part. |
| 13:31.22 | prpplague | T0mW: ok :) |
| 13:31.51 | T0mW | prpplague: I'll finish layout in a hour or so, then shoot you the final. |
| 13:32.29 | prpplague | T0mW: ok, let me have a quick look at the schematic again to see if there is anything else |
| 13:33.36 | T0mW | prpplague: there are two 2x3 headers on the board image you sent me, which placement? by the usb conn. or at the edge? |
| 13:34.29 | prpplague | T0mW: https://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/images/products/1/1/2/2/4/11224-02c.jpg |
| 13:34.47 | prpplague | T0mW: any way to get it in similar location? market ICSP |
| 13:34.50 | prpplague | marked |
| 13:35.29 | T0mW | prpplague: yes, can do. |
| 13:36.22 | prpplague | T0mW: i think we are good for now |
| 13:36.23 | T0mW | prpplague: other thing, do you have a resonator in mind / stock? |
| 13:36.48 | T0mW | prpplague: I chose something that appeared to be a proper part... |
| 13:37.17 | prpplague | T0mW: normally we don't acutally populate that we jsut have it there if they want to add it, let me get you the part that most people will use |
| 13:37.43 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, saw that it does have internal PLL + RC network. |
| 13:38.10 | prpplague | T0mW: stock HC49 footprint - https://www.sparkfun.com/products/538 |
| 13:39.06 | T0mW | prpplague: choke, monster. |
| 13:39.30 | T0mW | prpplague: heh, the crystal is larger than the processor. |
| 13:44.03 | prpplague | T0mW: sent an email with the list |
| 13:44.06 | prpplague | T0mW: mostly minor |
| 13:44.12 | prpplague | T0mW: headed to the office |
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| 16:43.48 | prpplague | T0mW: gerbers? |
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| 17:17.47 | calculus | I had gerbers when I was an infant |
| 17:18.37 | prpplague | gets really bad gerbers when he eats too much Thai food |
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| 18:44.05 | T0mW | prpplague: is that ICSP connector a 2mm or 0.1? |
| 18:45.27 | prpplague | T0mW: 0.1" |
| 18:45.40 | T0mW | prpplague: ok, i've 2mm there |
| 18:45.53 | prpplague | T0mW: ahh |
| 18:45.59 | prpplague | T0mW: i didn't notice |
| 18:46.09 | prpplague | bad dave |
| 18:47.18 | T0mW | prpplague: doh, no, it is 0.1 |
| 18:47.49 | prpplague | T0mW: shheeewww |
| 18:48.05 | prpplague | T0mW: time to layoff sniffing the solder flux |
| 18:49.04 | T0mW | prpplague: choc-chip cookies after lunch... |
| 18:49.29 | T0mW | prpplague: makes me sleepy + nerdy |
| 19:04.13 | wmat | orbarron: ping |
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| 20:06.57 | _av500_ | orbarron: !!! |
| 22:06.00 | wmat | prpplague: nothing could make you more nerdy ;) |
| 22:06.27 | prpplague | wmat: hehe , which item are you refering to? |
| 22:06.39 | wmat | cookies |
| 22:06.57 | prpplague | ahh |
| 22:07.00 | landley | mmmmm, cookies. |
| 22:07.15 | wmat | ioddly, you're not really that nerdy |
| 22:07.37 | wmat | nor are most of the hardcore nerds i'm familiar with |
| 22:07.51 | wmat | except mans ;) |
| 22:08.25 | prpplague | wmat: i am, just that i hide it well.... camouflage protection against the native rednecks of the southern US |
| 22:08.40 | wmat | heh |
| 22:08.50 | wmat | that explains your big guns |
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