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| 20:49.34 | T0mW | Nice thing about git: when things go horribly bad, you can clone the local repo, reset --hard to something that was working, then patch up to where you were while "doing the code right". |
| 20:49.54 | T0mW | I had to step back about a week of ambitious coding. |
| 20:50.45 | T0mW | ~lart svn |
| 20:50.45 | purl | eats svn and falls over dead |
| 20:50.47 | slashbeast | why clone local repo when you could merge/branch-over origin/master or whatever is your remote repo? |
| 20:51.24 | slashbeast | that's not mercurial to clone local repos to do basic branching job |
| 20:52.10 | T0mW | well, needed not have some changes moved forward until more basic stuff was working. Like I said, it was a week of ambitious coding where I did not test until I reached 'point B' (my bad). |
| 20:52.44 | slashbeast | start branch from last-wroking-code and cherry-pick or merge-up-to commit one by one |
| 20:53.01 | T0mW | slashbeast: branching would have meant commiting, switching branches, copying, switch back. Too much busy work. |
| 20:53.01 | slashbeast | been there, done that. |
| 20:53.12 | slashbeast | T0mW: lern to 'git stash' |
| 20:53.13 | slashbeast | ;-) |
| 20:53.14 | kergoth | git stash; git co other-branch; git stash pop |
| 20:53.18 | kergoth | slashbeast: :) |
| 20:53.26 | slashbeast | kergoth: ninja'd ;p |
| 20:53.35 | T0mW | kergoth: will look into that, thanks. |
| 20:53.40 | kergoth | also, commititng early and often is good policy, you can always rebase -i to clean it up later on, but that way history isn't lost |
| 20:54.28 | T0mW | kergoth: oh, yeah, commit often. |
| 20:54.32 | kergoth | see also git stash save -p, which lets you stash just part of your local changes, and git add -p, which lets you add certain local changes to the i ndex for commit, both are handy for breaking up local changes into multiple commits, or just for dropping part of your local changes so it doesn't get restored when you stash pop |
| 20:55.04 | T0mW | interesting |
| 20:56.04 | T0mW | cvs was good, svn was really good, but git rules! |
| 20:57.17 | slashbeast | svn was really good |
| 20:57.24 | slashbeast | you surly dont use it for big projects |
| 20:57.25 | slashbeast | heh |
| 20:57.49 | T0mW | kergoth, sounds like I need to get in the habit of committing steps towards a change rahter than finish all the changes then commit. |
| 20:57.54 | T0mW | e.g. stash |
| 20:58.06 | T0mW | slashbeast: LOL! |
| 20:58.11 | T0mW | btdt |
| 20:58.20 | T0mW | got the scars to prove it. |
| 20:58.26 | slashbeast | oh |
| 20:58.35 | slashbeast | so you're brain washed by svn people |
| 20:58.41 | slashbeast | happens quite a lot in corpos, sadly |
| 20:58.42 | slashbeast | ;p |
| 20:59.45 | kergoth | T0mW: precisely, yeah, that's what I'd recommend |
| 20:59.46 | T0mW | I think the best analogy I heard for svn is it is like your physco chearleader gf... |
| 21:00.10 | kergoth | I wouldnt' say cvs was good, I'd say cvs was better than rcs/sccs, and that's about the best I could say for it :) |
| 21:00.49 | slashbeast | cvn/svn allowed you some specified workflows what you can't do with git nativly |
| 21:00.54 | _av500_ | tar on a shared ftp rulez! |
| 21:00.57 | slashbeast | like fetch one damn file/dir from remote end |
| 21:01.01 | T0mW | I had no version control circa 1998, then I started with cvs. It was a huge step over zipping / taring. |
| 21:01.04 | slashbeast | you need cgit/gitweb/whatever frontend to do so with git. |
| 21:01.08 | slashbeast | and thats not the 'proper way' |
| 21:01.15 | slashbeast | because you can't update it via git. |
| 21:01.31 | T0mW | slashbeast: nod |
| 21:02.15 | slashbeast | at work I have svn repos with hundreds gigabytes of code, binaries (dont ask why they are there) and so on |
| 21:02.24 | slashbeast | cloning it as git repo would be overkill |
| 21:02.54 | kergoth | its a difference in philosophy, cvs/svn track files, git tracks projects |
| 21:03.04 | slashbeast | this ^ |
| 21:03.15 | kergoth | shudders at the thought of the lack of atomicity of cvs commits |
| 21:03.23 | slashbeast | but when you have process, its almost impossible to switch to another solution |
| 21:03.28 | slashbeast | because 'business reasons' |
| 21:03.39 | slashbeast | I love this argument, 'business reasons' |
| 21:04.21 | kergoth | in other words, 'we don't see the rewards outweighing the potential risks', aka 'change is bad' |
| 21:04.24 | kergoth | ;) |
| 21:05.02 | T0mW | well, time for some of my more glorious task of the day: mow the lawn & run the garbage down to the transfer station. |
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| 21:05.42 | slashbeast | kergoth: its like re working the process, which takes ages, and force all the coworkers to rework thier processes |
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| 21:14.06 | slashbeast | I srsly need to prepare static toolset for the win. |
| 21:14.09 | slashbeast | like static nbd-server |
| 21:27.39 | landley | slashbeast: is nbd-server worth putting into toybox? |
| 21:27.52 | landley | I just did nbd-client, but it seems like sever would be symmeric... |
| 21:28.27 | slashbeast | landley: sure it is |
| 21:28.28 | landley | Dunno a lot of people who use it... |
| 21:28.38 | landley | Ok. I'll take a look. |
| 21:28.47 | slashbeast | I need it like right now, as remote server does not boot and I dont have real KVM there |
| 21:28.59 | slashbeast | so I can push over network the /dev/sda and check local qemu with -snapshot |
| 21:29.07 | slashbeast | quite awesome, dont you think? |
| 21:29.22 | slashbeast | (I have rescue system over pxe booted there) |
| 21:30.05 | landley | I've started a p9d for toybox, but that's a personal idiosyncrasy as much as anything. :) |
| 21:31.12 | slashbeast | I don't even know whats p9d and I failed to google it |
| 21:31.33 | slashbeast | gotta go, talk to you later landley! |
| 21:31.42 | slashbeast | dive dive dive! |
| 21:33.45 | landley | v9fs |
| 21:34.13 | landley | http://landley.livejournal.com/48698.html |
| 21:34.55 | landley | http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2011-04/msg00971.html |
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| 22:44.05 | MonMotha | T0mW: you may also find creating a new branch and cherry picking onto it effective |
| 22:46.36 | MonMotha | and of course git bisect |
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