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| 04:08.43 | calculus | I have a mips device, meant to be routing my internets, but didn't get that far with it |
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| 07:56.34 | SpeedEvil | This one is just a 2.4 kernel stock thingy |
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| 21:44.13 | landley | Grumble grumble moving target grumble. |
| 21:44.34 | landley | Patch wanders by on linux-kernel to replace "non-portable" echo -e with printf command line command. |
| 21:44.45 | landley | Aboriginal doesn't have printf in host-tools because nothing's used it yet... |
| 21:44.54 | landley | One more thing toybox needs to implement because I can discard busybox... |
| 21:49.34 | calculu5 | landley: I am trying to find your linux git archive from the beginnings, mentioned here http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1107.2/02263.html, but 404s |
| 21:51.01 | roxfan | non-portable wha |
| 21:51.43 | landley | calculu5: http://landley.net/kdocs/local/linux-fullhist.tar.bz2 |
| 21:52.13 | landley | See http://landley.net/kdocs/fullhist for description. |
| 21:52.25 | landley | calculus: ^^ |
| 21:54.08 | landley | roxfan: don't ask me, ask http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1308.2/03643.html |
| 21:55.16 | calculus | landley: thanks |
| 21:55.40 | landley | needs to get kernel.org/doc updating again... |
| 21:56.13 | calculus | I guess it is not one of you projects, but I was looking for it from the sidebar on your page |
| 22:02.43 | MonMotha | Quoth the server, "Four oh four" |
| 22:06.30 | landley | sidebar of which page? |
| 22:26.00 | landley | A thing: http://www.edn.com/electronics-products/other/4419320/Industry-s-first-5V-Cortex-M0--MCUs-target-industrial-and-white-goods |
| 22:30.42 | SpeedEvil | Funky |
| 22:34.56 | SpeedEvil | Also - +-25mA per-pin output current - operating current not abs max |
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| 22:39.18 | MonMotha | hum, true 5V? |
| 22:44.35 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 22:45.04 | MonMotha | interesting |
| 22:45.17 | SpeedEvil | I've only skimmed the datasheet - but high output drive pins can do about to within .6V of rails at 25mA/5V |
| 22:45.26 | MonMotha | that might be the death knell of the AVR in new designs for me |
| 22:45.44 | MonMotha | though I dunno if they can beat the AVR on price at the extreme low end |
| 22:48.38 | SpeedEvil | Also - http://cache.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/data_sheet/KL02P32M48SF0.pdf?fpsp=1&WT_TYPE=Data%20Sheets&WT_VENDOR=FREESCALE&WT_FILE_FORMAT=pdf&WT_ASSET=Documentation - page 6 needs to be understood by more people |
| 22:49.03 | SpeedEvil | Going into why abs max is not an operating current |
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| 22:50.58 | MonMotha | in general, I figure you'll be lucky to do extended operation at any single absolute max rating for an extended period of time |
| 22:51.17 | MonMotha | if given, I always try to stay within the "recommended" operating parameters |
| 22:52.53 | SpeedEvil | Quite. |
| 22:53.46 | SpeedEvil | Way too many people. *cough* arduino *cough* seem to start reading the datssheet - come across the abs max output current limit per pin - and use that as a design output current for all pins at the same itme |
| 22:56.13 | MonMotha | a lot of datasheets actually give an abs max rating for all IO pins simultaneously or provide a suitable footnote |
| 22:56.31 | SpeedEvil | if you read that far :-) |
| 22:56.42 | MonMotha | heh |
| 22:56.58 | MonMotha | Atmel is pretty good about providing that info, so most Arduino users have no excuse |
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